More Free Agent Talk

[DaHef]

Anybody like Christian Wood? Still a free agent, apparently had no offers beyond a minimum. Like Saric, waiting for something better that may not come.

Oh hell yes, but the last rumor I saw had him linked to (who else) the Lakers.

Well, they've spent their MLE and even their Bi-Annual, so all they have are minimums, same as the Warriors.

I wonder if the Lakers offer PO's or if the Dubs have any flexibility on PO's if that were a tie breaker?

[donkeylips]

With saric, is wood needed? If they were to sign another big I would be hoping it would be more of a defensive minded big

[ChuckDurn]

With Saric now on-board, I think the Warriors should see if they can get a free roll on one of Wood, Watford, or Bazley, all of whom are probably worth more than the minimum…… but if they don’t get any of them, I’m going to guess that they’re going to “promote” Quinones to a guaranteed contract (I bet they try to sign him to a multi-year deal at the minimum), and will work to get a couple of big guys on 2-way deals. They currently have 13 guys on guaranteed deals, almost certainly will only go with 14 (to avoid higher tax savings), and probably want to get Quinones on-board to avoid losing him.

I like the way this team is shaping up.

[BayAreaDub]

I’d take a flyer on Bazely over Wood

[whatisacenter]

I really don't see the Warriors adding another big with Saric on board.

They will only have two spots to fill and will probably only fill one of them to save $.

I would look for a cheap wing over another big.

[donkeylips]

I can see quinones on a two way then promote him once he reaches the limit like they did with lamb last year.

[DaHef]

With saric, is wood needed? If they were to sign another big I would be hoping it would be more of a defensive minded big

Wood loves to rebound and his 3pt% is almost the same as Saric. Runs the floor well too. I'm greedy. I'll take both and call it a day.

[CDM_Stats]

you still don't get it.
reading the comments of some experts in this thread, almost every funking player on planet earth, not only big men but also wings and guards, is not a fit here. not as a starter, but as a funking 10th 11th man on roster! there's always some flaw pointed out, either physical or technical or temperamental or BBIQ related, where the very same flaws could be pointed out for the starters of the team.
following the logic you and the others apply to almost every funking player mentioned in this thread, no one apart from steph should play for the dubs next season.

your inability to understand what they mean doesnt mean THEY are wrong

not all weaknesses are the same. A player with a severe BBIQ issue is not the same as someone with a severe shooting issue, or rebounding issue, or defense issue. Seems like the most ardent complaints are about lack of BBIQ, which makes perfect sense. So it sounds to me like, no, its you. Especially when you are citing guys like Zaza and Ezeli from entirely different defensive concepts as evidence

Do you watch football? American football?

Yes, I do watch American football. niners fan here.

lol I'm an idiot.. there was a lot more attached after that question but I nust have deleted it before submitting the post. Must have been weird to see that question all by itself

Like in football, especially defensively, there are a lot of of guys who are great fits in a 3-4 defense who dont fit as well in a 4-3, or a cover 2, or a tampa 2 etc etc.. You can try and plug players from one system into a different one, but the best bet is finding guys who thrive in the system you're running. Basketball used to be immune to that kind of strategy as everyone always seemed to follow a single doctrine. In the 90s, it was hand-check defense, post-offense, minimal 3s, size was desperately needed. In the 00s, size became slightly less important as the handcheck rule's impact (along with zone D being allowed) made it so quickness started mattering more than size. By the 10s rolled around, guys like Steph had changed the game with the 3pt shot, and size has become less important than ever in NBA history

Now its not useless, if you had the choice of a 6'5" guy with great skills and a 6'10 guy with the same skillset, you choose 6'10 guy. But what it means is you have a 6'5 guy who plays better or more importantly, fits better, than the 6'10 guy, you arent obligated to play 6'10 just because he's tall. The Warriors have leaned into that mostly, and this year are taking that to the extreme. Smart players only, no isoballers - except Kuminga, a project.

All that to say.. when isoballers/low BBIQ guys get suggested, it runs counter to what they are doing. Saric and CoJo are smart vets. CP3 is one of the smartest all time. Podz was one of the smarter prospects, TJD one of the smarter (and smaller) ready-now bigs. What we arent seeing are the Oubres, the JMGs, the Bazemores.. the guys with a nice athletic profile or a nice iso skillset and trying to teach them the game. That would eliminate guys like Bamba, Biyombo, Bol, Wood, and countless others left on the pile

[CDM_Stats]

Paul Reed gets a 3-23 offer sheet from Utah

I liked the guy but nowhere near that much

[CDM_Stats]

With saric, is wood needed? If they were to sign another big I would be hoping it would be more of a defensive minded big

Wood loves to rebound and his 3pt% is almost the same as Saric. Runs the floor well too. I'm greedy. I'll take both and call it a day.

I'd bet my bottom dollar that the last roster spot we fill is not going to be a big.. and if it is, its going to be a bad one.

We have no minutes left to offer.. we have Kuminga and now TJD as young players we'd like to see have a role. Then you have Draymond, Saric and Looney who are all locked into minutes as well.. "good" vet min signings arent going to want to take less AND start the year out of the rotation with younger, cost controlled players being the preferred option to them.. on a team that will frequently abandon bigs for smallball

Last spot is going to be a wing, and probably not one the board is going to like. Probably an older vet with limited upside like a Danny Green or Wesley Matthews. Maybe a microwave (Terrence Ross, Will Barton), maybe a specialist (Javonte Green, Sly Mycoholic or whatever). But it would be a huge shock if they went into the season without a vet that would step into the starting lineup if Klay went down - and no, I dont think that would be CP3/CoJo (size), Moody (he's a F), or Podz (age)

[donkeylips]

For wings I’d try to get Ross, t Davis, warren, d jones jr, or javonte green

[TrueFan420]

Go get Green and Noel for the final two spots

[watch1958]

For wings I’d try to get Ross, t Davis, warren, d jones jr, or javonte green

Warren is an interesting thought. Can shoot the threes okay, and can get a tough bucket when the offense breaks down. Also, with the Warriors he'd give depth at PF and size at SF.

[RooneyFan]

I think we water down punishment for certain groups, because in other situations he'd have a hard time finding work again

Hmmm ... my first thought when I read this was that in another situation, no one would know about the slur and it would have been easy to find work again. Which makes me think that maybe I'm not understanding what you're saying.

If some team wants to take a shot on him, go for it.. I just dont think the Warriors should. I think they cashed in all their goodwill chips last year on #40

I understand your perspective. Would still like to see him get a second chance. And since I believe his story, part of me wants to see him get that chance with the Warriors. But your most recent comment about the Warriors not wanting to go into the regular season without a backup for Klay really rings true, so you're probably right - the ship has sailed for another big man to take the 14th spot. Either they bring in another 2-guard/wing on a vet min or they give Quinones that spot and then use the remaining one or two 2-ways on bigs. And I'm sure Leonard wouldn't be allowed to be a 2-way any longer (or want to be a 2-way), although I'm not up on all the rules.

At the end of the day, I'll be happy enough with whatever they do. Been a Ws fan at least since the 75 championship (and maybe before - at my age, I just can't remember, but the 75 championship is a pretty vivid memory). So I've lived through a lot of down seasons when Saric and Quinones would have been starters and we would have been hoping against hope they would also be the saviors of the franchise. We were routinely disabused of that fantasy by the 5th game of the regular season.

[whatisacenter]

Go get Green and Noel for the final two spots

Definitely agree on Green but lukewarm on Noel.

[wco81]

Myers Leonard, before that controversy was known for getting overpaid by the Blazers, mostly on potential.

Wasn't living up to that contract by the time he got into trouble.

Had an interesting history, was homeless for a part of time while growing up, but has like $60 million in career earnings so unless he messed up with spending, he should be able to take care of his family if he never played.

Career 39% shooter from 3 but on only 2 attempts per game. Bucks had him for 9 games last season, shot okay for them but they didn't re-sign him.

Probably a problem having impact, aside from the off court issues.

[CDM_Stats]

Garuba's now been dealt from ATL to OKC..

Its the slimmest of slim chances, but if he were to be released or bought out.. he'd be 2-way eligible and could fit really well here

[CDM_Stats]

I think we water down punishment for certain groups, because in other situations he'd have a hard time finding work again

Hmmm ... my first thought when I read this was that in another situation, no one would know about the slur and it would have been easy to find work again. Which makes me think that maybe I'm not understanding what you're saying.

If some team wants to take a shot on him, go for it.. I just dont think the Warriors should. I think they cashed in all their goodwill chips last year on #40

I understand your perspective. Would still like to see him get a second chance. And since I believe his story, part of me wants to see him get that chance with the Warriors. But your most recent comment about the Warriors not wanting to go into the regular season without a backup for Klay really rings true, so you're probably right - the ship has sailed for another big man to take the 14th spot. Either they bring in another 2-guard/wing on a vet min or they give Quinones that spot and then use the remaining one or two 2-ways on bigs. And I'm sure Leonard wouldn't be allowed to be a 2-way any longer (or want to be a 2-way), although I'm not up on all the rules.

At the end of the day, I'll be happy enough with whatever they do. Been a Ws fan at least since the 75 championship (and maybe before - at my age, I just can't remember, but the 75 championship is a pretty vivid memory). So I've lived through a lot of down seasons when Saric and Quinones would have been starters and we would have been hoping against hope they would also be the saviors of the franchise. We were routinely disabused of that fantasy by the 5th game of the regular season.

More meant that if Leonard had used a slur for other people, in the same situation, the consequences might be more severe. I think antisemitism doesnt get treated the same way other hate does

And yeah weve sure come a long way from the John Starks/Mookie Blaylock/Latrell Sprewell/Stephen Jackson/Monta Ellis days of yore where we had to manufacture our own excitement since the team certainly wasnt doing it for us. We'd be handing out multi-year contracts to worse players as we tried to build on a promising April in last year's 33 win season.. ah, the terrible old days

[a8bil]

Why would GSW not have gone/go for Drew Timme? Guy is a big body, high BBIQ, winner. Reminds me of Ryan Anderson, who was a solid NBA player. Not going to give you strong on-ball defense in the paint, but I think he'll give you good team defense, good passing, good screen setting and clever scoring around the hoop. Why is he being ignored?

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

Jay Huff, Jordan Bell, Tacko Fall, Dwight Howard are all guys I am interested in.

Sign our restricted free agent Quinones who can somewhat replace Poole.