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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#3261 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:56 pm

vvoland wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Go get Jimmy B for Kuminga and picks.

If the goal is to keep the big 3 together then add a guy that fits that timeline and let them ride it out together.

Jimmy B still a difference maker.


That's just not how the cap works.

Obviously Wiggins is the filler.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#3262 » by xdrta+ » Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:22 am

JustBuzzin wrote:
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JustBuzzin wrote:Go get Jimmy B for Kuminga and picks.

If the goal is to keep the big 3 together then add a guy that fits that timeline and let them ride it out together.

Jimmy B still a difference maker.


That's just not how the cap works.

Obviously Wiggins is the filler.


Obviously, that's not nearly enough.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#3263 » by wco81 » Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:48 am

Butler can't even play as many games as Steph and he's 2 years younger.

Does he still have defensive impact?
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#3264 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:22 pm

Only if Curry demands a trade this off-season.

Say the Hornets land the #1 pick.

LaMelo/#1 pick for Curry do you take this offer?
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Post#3265 » by Onus » Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:24 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Only if Curry demands a trade this off-season.

Say the Hornets land the #1 pick.

LaMelo/#1 pick for Curry do you take this offer?

If Curry demanded a trade he's not going to demand a trade to the hornets. If curry demanded a trade I don't even care what we get back in return. He's done enough for the franchise that I dont need value back.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#3266 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:30 pm

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JustBuzzin wrote:Only if Curry demands a trade this off-season.

Say the Hornets land the #1 pick.

LaMelo/#1 pick for Curry do you take this offer?

If Curry demanded a trade he's not going to demand a trade to the hornets. If curry demanded a trade I don't even care what we get back in return. He's done enough for the franchise that I dont need value back.

He literally said a few years back the only other team he would consider playing for was Charlotte.

Could his mind have changed? Possibly.

I don't think he will ask out, but if he does it's probably to a place he loves and admires. Charlotte is his home.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#3267 » by Onus » Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:50 pm

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JustBuzzin wrote:Only if Curry demands a trade this off-season.

Say the Hornets land the #1 pick.

LaMelo/#1 pick for Curry do you take this offer?

If Curry demanded a trade he's not going to demand a trade to the hornets. If curry demanded a trade I don't even care what we get back in return. He's done enough for the franchise that I dont need value back.

He literally said a few years back the only other team he would consider playing for was Charlotte.

Could his mind have changed? Possibly.

I don't think he will ask out, but if he does it's probably to a place he loves and admires. Charlotte is his home.

Charlotte is where he grew up. His home is in Menlo Atherton. Charlotte doesn't offer him a place to compete for a title let alone a place to compete for the playoffs. The only reason for him to leave would be to chase rings.

He shut down that charlotte nonsense when he played there this year and said it's nice to think about but it's not going to happen. He has Seth living that dream for him.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#3268 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:26 pm

Onus wrote:
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Onus wrote:If Curry demanded a trade he's not going to demand a trade to the hornets. If curry demanded a trade I don't even care what we get back in return. He's done enough for the franchise that I dont need value back.

He literally said a few years back the only other team he would consider playing for was Charlotte.

Could his mind have changed? Possibly.

I don't think he will ask out, but if he does it's probably to a place he loves and admires. Charlotte is his home.

Charlotte is where he grew up. His home is in Menlo Atherton. Charlotte doesn't offer him a place to compete for a title let alone a place to compete for the playoffs. The only reason for him to leave would be to chase rings.

He shut down that charlotte nonsense when he played there this year and said it's nice to think about but it's not going to happen. He has Seth living that dream for him.

The East is weaker and Miller/Bridges/Mark is better than what he has now in GSW.

He's 36 he has a better chance with younger players with untapped potential. Klay and Draymond have seen their better years.

This is a moot point though because he's likely staying. Also I don't think he needs to win anymore championships. Like LeBron he has nothing left to prove.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#3269 » by CDM_Stats » Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:28 pm

If we’re trading Steph then send him to MIL to play w Giannis. Let Dame come home for half a season then send him wherever he wants to go for draft assets

Seeing Steph play w Giannis to end his career is lot better than sending him to a team that’s got no identity at this time
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Post#3270 » by CDM_Stats » Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:39 pm

I think DJM becoming less and less of an option. A lot of smoke about Trae being available this offseason
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#3271 » by TB » Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:35 pm

CDM_Stats wrote:I think DJM becoming less and less of an option. A lot of smoke about Trae being available this offseason


Not trading CP3 and picks for him (or even better Klay and picks for Murray/Capela) was such a fail. They said they wanted 2 1st round picks... We would be set with a PG that can help Steph now and fit perfectly fine next to Podz as well moving forward.
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Post#3272 » by Onus » Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:38 pm

CDM_Stats wrote:I think DJM becoming less and less of an option. A lot of smoke about Trae being available this offseason

I do wonder what Trae's value is around the league. It's probably less than DJM.
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Post#3273 » by DAWill1128 » Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:28 am

Just a wild spit ball all in on the present idea.

CP3+TJD+Looney+1st rounder
For
Murray+Capela

Wiggins+Kuminga+Podz
For
Lauri+Sexton

Sign Covington

C Lauri, Capela
PF Green, Covington, Santos
SF Moody, Thompson
SG Murray, GP2, Q
PG Curry, Sexton

Curry - Superstar of the team
Lauri - 2nd option, floor spacing 4/5.
Murray - 3rd option, downhill threat, great guard defender
Green - DPOY, help on defense and facilitate the ball
Moody - 3&D wing
Sexton - Lightning quick 6th man
GP2 - Reserve lock down defender
Thompson - 3 point shooter off the bench
Covington - 3&D forward
Capela - Rim running and blocking shots
Santos - Energy combo forward
Q - Energy wing

Lauri and Murray are All-Star type talents that can carry the load the upcoming season and beyond. Capela is an established big off the bench. Sexton brings a tough guard assignment to defend off the bench.
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Post#3274 » by ShayDee » Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:28 am

DAWill1128 wrote:Just a wild spit ball all in on the present idea.

CP3+TJD+Looney+1st rounder
For
Murray+Capela

Wiggins+Kuminga+Podz
For
Lauri+Sexton

Sign Covington

C Lauri, Capela
PF Green, Covington, Santos
SF Moody, Thompson
SG Murray, GP2, Q
PG Curry, Sexton

Curry - Superstar of the team
Lauri - 2nd option, floor spacing 4/5.
Murray - 3rd option, downhill threat, great guard defender
Green - DPOY, help on defense and facilitate the ball
Moody - 3&D wing
Sexton - Lightning quick 6th man
GP2 - Reserve lock down defender
Thompson - 3 point shooter off the bench
Covington - 3&D forward
Capela - Rim running and blocking shots
Santos - Energy combo forward
Q - Energy wing

Lauri and Murray are All-Star type talents that can carry the load the upcoming season and beyond. Capela is an established big off the bench. Sexton brings a tough guard assignment to defend off the bench.


Aint no way hawks accept that deal without 2 first and a young player. TJD doesn't have value like that
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Post#3275 » by cdubbz » Tue Apr 23, 2024 1:47 am

It’s possible to sign & trade Jk this summer? Or extend and trade?
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Post#3276 » by ShayDee » Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:23 am

cdubbz wrote:It’s possible to sign & trade Jk this summer? Or extend and trade?


It will be a poison pill contract which will be difficult to trade
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Post#3277 » by xdrta+ » Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:49 am

cdubbz wrote:It’s possible to sign & trade Jk this summer? Or extend and trade?


There's no S&T since Kuminga is not a free agent. Extend and trade is possible but there is no benefit to it. Since he's on a rookie scale contract, the receiving team can extend him anyway for the same amount the Warriors could. His salary next season is about $7.6M and that's the amount that can be used for matching in a trade this summer.
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Post#3278 » by azwfan » Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:56 pm

xdrta+ wrote:
cdubbz wrote:It’s possible to sign & trade Jk this summer? Or extend and trade?


There's no S&T since Kuminga is not a free agent. Extend and trade is possible but there is no benefit to it. Since he's on a rookie scale contract, the receiving team can extend him anyway for the same amount the Warriors could. His salary next season is about $7.6M and that's the amount that can be used for matching in a trade this summer.

With Klay being a FA… does that bring us below the 2nd apron, and therefore can combine salaries this offseason or… does CP3 need to be cut prior to the guaranteed date also?
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Post#3279 » by vvoland » Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:21 pm

azwfan wrote:
xdrta+ wrote:
cdubbz wrote:It’s possible to sign & trade Jk this summer? Or extend and trade?


There's no S&T since Kuminga is not a free agent. Extend and trade is possible but there is no benefit to it. Since he's on a rookie scale contract, the receiving team can extend him anyway for the same amount the Warriors could. His salary next season is about $7.6M and that's the amount that can be used for matching in a trade this summer.

With Klay being a FA… does that bring us below the 2nd apron, and therefore can combine salaries this offseason or… does CP3 need to be cut prior to the guaranteed date also?


2nd apron is at $189M. We're at 175M today, counting cp3's 30M, not counting Klay's cap hold and with only 11 rostered players. Lots of flexibility in those numbers, however, since cp3 is certainly not coming back for 30M and there's a good chance Klay comes back in the 20-25M range. No real chance of the non-tax payer MLE as it would require us to get under 171M. If we don't bring back Klay or CP3 (or use CP3 to get a player/contract back), we'd get well under the 171M but would have a starting 2 guard and 6th man roles to fill.
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Re: Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?) 

Post#3280 » by watch1958 » Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:28 am

vvoland wrote:
azwfan wrote:
xdrta+ wrote:
There's no S&T since Kuminga is not a free agent. Extend and trade is possible but there is no benefit to it. Since he's on a rookie scale contract, the receiving team can extend him anyway for the same amount the Warriors could. His salary next season is about $7.6M and that's the amount that can be used for matching in a trade this summer.

With Klay being a FA… does that bring us below the 2nd apron, and therefore can combine salaries this offseason or… does CP3 need to be cut prior to the guaranteed date also?


2nd apron is at $189M. We're at 175M today, counting cp3's 30M, not counting Klay's cap hold and with only 11 rostered players. Lots of flexibility in those numbers, however, since cp3 is certainly not coming back for 30M and there's a good chance Klay comes back in the 20-25M range. No real chance of the non-tax payer MLE as it would require us to get under 171M. If we don't bring back Klay or CP3 (or use CP3 to get a player/contract back), we'd get well under the 171M but would have a starting 2 guard and 6th man roles to fill.
2 guard might be easy to find. With Klay gone it might look more appealing to a decent veteran.
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