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Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft 

Post#101 » by whatisacenter » Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:04 am

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Yes I would. I wouldn't want to have this years number one pick on the roster at the slotted salary for that pick.


Doubt we're a top 10 team next season but even then, yes. Not only does the draft look better next season, not only is the draft slot much cheaper, there's also the ability to trade future picks that is compromised if we still owe our pick over the next two seasons. Convey it this year and only have the 2030 pick that's going out (and if the protection holds up, it's 2nd rounders the following year)


It's delusional to think the best player in one draft won't be worth considerably more than the 20th best player in a future draft.

I agree I want control of future draft picks, but that wasn't the hypothetical it was literally the top pick vs the 20th a year later. In reality it's incredibly unlikely the Warriors get the #1 pick, but if the Warriors got the #1 pick and offered it straight up for the 20th pick the next year there isn't a single team in the NBA that wouldn't jump on that deal.


Who would you pick in the top 4?
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Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft 

Post#102 » by Scoots1994 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:20 am

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Doubt we're a top 10 team next season but even then, yes. Not only does the draft look better next season, not only is the draft slot much cheaper, there's also the ability to trade future picks that is compromised if we still owe our pick over the next two seasons. Convey it this year and only have the 2030 pick that's going out (and if the protection holds up, it's 2nd rounders the following year)


It's delusional to think the best player in one draft won't be worth considerably more than the 20th best player in a future draft.

I agree I want control of future draft picks, but that wasn't the hypothetical it was literally the top pick vs the 20th a year later. In reality it's incredibly unlikely the Warriors get the #1 pick, but if the Warriors got the #1 pick and offered it straight up for the 20th pick the next year there isn't a single team in the NBA that wouldn't jump on that deal.


Who would you pick in the top 4?


I don't know. Haven't looked at who is there. Doesn't change reality. The top pick in a weak draft is WAY more valuable than the 20th pick in any draft.
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Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft 

Post#103 » by Onus » Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:29 am

Karaban officially in the draft let’s go!!
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Post#104 » by cdubbz » Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:06 pm

I simmed the lottery maybe 40 times before I got the Warriors a top 4 pick (#1!)
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Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft 

Post#105 » by Onus » Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:10 pm

We basically got a whole new scouting team last year so pretty excited to see who they take at 52. Looks like there should be some good options that can be ready to play at 52.
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Post#106 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:24 pm

Izan Almansa declaring for the draft. The only prospect I really even looked at this year (because IDGAF about the draft if the Warriors arent in it).. and unless he's there in the 2nd, wouldnt advise taking him. Giving me Tiago Splitter vibes
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Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft 

Post#107 » by Onus » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:30 pm

CDM_Stats wrote:Izan Almansa declaring for the draft. The only prospect I really even looked at this year (because IDGAF about the draft if the Warriors arent in it).. and unless he's there in the 2nd, wouldnt advise taking him. Giving me Tiago Splitter vibes

We do have a 2nd rd pick from the pacers.
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Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft 

Post#108 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:42 pm

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CDM_Stats wrote:Izan Almansa declaring for the draft. The only prospect I really even looked at this year (because IDGAF about the draft if the Warriors arent in it).. and unless he's there in the 2nd, wouldnt advise taking him. Giving me Tiago Splitter vibes

We do have a 2nd rd pick from the pacers.


And we also have an unlimited amount of minimum free agent slots we can use, the difference between the 2 is practically nil. Mostly dart throws.. but if a 1st round talent slips to the 2nd for whatever reason, like TJD did, then cool. But zero motivation here to give a **** because the odds that that player ever plays a meaningful minute here are super slim
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Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft 

Post#109 » by Onus » Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:09 pm

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CDM_Stats wrote:Izan Almansa declaring for the draft. The only prospect I really even looked at this year (because IDGAF about the draft if the Warriors arent in it).. and unless he's there in the 2nd, wouldnt advise taking him. Giving me Tiago Splitter vibes

We do have a 2nd rd pick from the pacers.


And we also have an unlimited amount of minimum free agent slots we can use, the difference between the 2 is practically nil. Mostly dart throws.. but if a 1st round talent slips to the 2nd for whatever reason, like TJD did, then cool. But zero motivation here to give a **** because the odds that that player ever plays a meaningful minute here are super slim

I seriously don’t think that’s true. If you can play and aren’t raw Kerr will play you. If you’re raw and don’t know what you’re doing Kerr won’t play you. For sure this 2nd rd pick will be an upperclassman with a higher bbiq if mdj wants them to play and there’s quite a few available.
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Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft 

Post#110 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Apr 25, 2024 7:06 pm

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Onus wrote:We do have a 2nd rd pick from the pacers.


And we also have an unlimited amount of minimum free agent slots we can use, the difference between the 2 is practically nil. Mostly dart throws.. but if a 1st round talent slips to the 2nd for whatever reason, like TJD did, then cool. But zero motivation here to give a **** because the odds that that player ever plays a meaningful minute here are super slim

I seriously don’t think that’s true. If you can play and aren’t raw Kerr will play you. If you’re raw and don’t know what you’re doing Kerr won’t play you. For sure this 2nd rd pick will be an upperclassman with a higher bbiq if mdj wants them to play and there’s quite a few available.


I mean more that we're what, 7 picks away from UDFAs anyways so getting a pick in the 50s is a fart in the wind
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Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft 

Post#111 » by TB » Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:19 pm

With John Broome returning to Auburn, I think my favorite 2nd round target right now would be Ajay Mitchell. Reminds me of Podz and Brunson. I wouldn't mind getting another combo guard that is pretty NBA ready since we will be losing CP3.
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Post#112 » by clyde21 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:21 pm

R1: Oso Ighodaro (if we can maneuver a trade into the late 1st)
R2: Jalen Bridges

my favorite most realistic scenario at this point in this class.

Ighodaro is probably the closest I've seen to Dray in college since Dray. it's a tough projection to make because a lot of Dray's game is analytical but Oso is an absolute brilliant orchestrator of inside-out offense, highly athletic and a versatile multi-level defender. shooting game is near non-existent though and that could be a swing skill for him.

Bridges is a nice sleeper wing guy, physically ready to play in the NBA already and on the older side with some nice baseline skills, can defend, some on-ball juice and hits his 3s/FTs and is a low usage guy.

i'll throw out some other names as well as we get closed to the process but these two guys stick out to me as great Warriors fits for R1/R2.
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Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft 

Post#113 » by clyde21 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:25 pm

CDM_Stats wrote:
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CDM_Stats wrote:Izan Almansa declaring for the draft. The only prospect I really even looked at this year (because IDGAF about the draft if the Warriors arent in it).. and unless he's there in the 2nd, wouldnt advise taking him. Giving me Tiago Splitter vibes

We do have a 2nd rd pick from the pacers.


And we also have an unlimited amount of minimum free agent slots we can use, the difference between the 2 is practically nil. Mostly dart throws.. but if a 1st round talent slips to the 2nd for whatever reason, like TJD did, then cool. But zero motivation here to give a **** because the odds that that player ever plays a meaningful minute here are super slim


can be packaged for a trade up into the late first if a guy we like drops (like Oso for me), assets are assets, just gotta be creative with the packages and make meaningful moves for dudes that fit.
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Post#114 » by Onus » Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:35 pm

clyde21 wrote:R1: Oso Ighodaro (if we can maneuver a trade into the late 1st)
R2: Jalen Bridges

my favorite most realistic scenario at this point in this class.

Ighodaro is probably the closest I've seen to Dray in college since Dray. it's a tough projection to make because a lot of Dray's game is analytical but Oso is an absolute brilliant orchestrator of inside-out offense, highly athletic and a versatile multi-level defender. shooting game is near non-existent though and that could be a swing skill for him.

Bridges is a nice sleeper wing guy, physically ready to play in the NBA already and on the older side with some nice baseline skills, can defend, some on-ball juice and hits his 3s/FTs and is a low usage guy.

i'll throw out some other names as well as we get closed to the process but these two guys stick out to me as great Warriors fits for R1/R2.

Bridges seems like who I’m settling on for our pick. Can shoot, 6’8” and defends. Has a pretty quick and compact shot.
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Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft 

Post#115 » by clyde21 » Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:58 pm

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clyde21 wrote:R1: Oso Ighodaro (if we can maneuver a trade into the late 1st)
R2: Jalen Bridges

my favorite most realistic scenario at this point in this class.

Ighodaro is probably the closest I've seen to Dray in college since Dray. it's a tough projection to make because a lot of Dray's game is analytical but Oso is an absolute brilliant orchestrator of inside-out offense, highly athletic and a versatile multi-level defender. shooting game is near non-existent though and that could be a swing skill for him.

Bridges is a nice sleeper wing guy, physically ready to play in the NBA already and on the older side with some nice baseline skills, can defend, some on-ball juice and hits his 3s/FTs and is a low usage guy.

i'll throw out some other names as well as we get closed to the process but these two guys stick out to me as great Warriors fits for R1/R2.

Bridges seems like who I’m settling on for our pick. Can shoot, 6’8” and defends. Has a pretty quick and compact shot.


i don't think he's quite 6'8, probably more 6-6 or 6-7 but yea, can play the 2/3 no doubt and is a great schematic fit here as well, comes in with a decently high floor as well. for sure one of my R2 sleepers.

if we can somehow come out of this class with Oso/Bridges, chefs kiss. i still doubt the creativity in the FO tho, and they might not even look at Oso b/c of TJD.
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Post#116 » by watch1958 » Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:24 pm

clyde21 wrote:R1: Oso Ighodaro (if we can maneuver a trade into the late 1st)
R2: Jalen Bridges

my favorite most realistic scenario at this point in this class.

Ighodaro is probably the closest I've seen to Dray in college since Dray. it's a tough projection to make because a lot of Dray's game is analytical but Oso is an absolute brilliant orchestrator of inside-out offense, highly athletic and a versatile multi-level defender. shooting game is near non-existent though and that could be a swing skill for him.

Bridges is a nice sleeper wing guy, physically ready to play in the NBA already and on the older side with some nice baseline skills, can defend, some on-ball juice and hits his 3s/FTs and is a low usage guy.

i'll throw out some other names as well as we get closed to the process but these two guys stick out to me as great Warriors fits for R1/R2.
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Post#117 » by ShayDee » Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:10 pm

Oso is a nice prospect but this team already has Dray and, Kuminga and TJD, might also have Looney next year as well. If he could shoot it wouldn't be a problem but I guess if he could shoot he would be closer to mid teen than 2nd round pick. This team needs real 7fters/Stretch bigs or a really good tall wing that spaces the floor without hesitation
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Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft 

Post#118 » by clyde21 » Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:44 pm

i hate the idea of us not grabbing players that fit exactly what we do just because we have a similar player on the roster already. trades are a thing. we don't have to keep TJD forever, or Dray or even Kuminga.

you have a scheme, system...when players that fit so well here from all standpoints present themselves you pull the trigger and figure the rest out later.

this is the no creativity nonsense i am always talking about and have been talking about for years which is why we're in the current state that we are in.
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Post#119 » by Onus » Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:22 pm

clyde21 wrote:i hate the idea of us not grabbing players that fit exactly what we do just because we have a similar player on the roster already. trades are a thing. we don't have to keep TJD forever, or Dray or even Kuminga.

you have a scheme, system...when players that fit so well here from all standpoints present themselves you pull the trigger and figure the rest out later.

this is the no creativity nonsense i am always talking about and have been talking about for years which is why we're in the current state that we are in.

What's your thoughts on Karaban?
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Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft 

Post#120 » by clyde21 » Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:38 pm

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clyde21 wrote:i hate the idea of us not grabbing players that fit exactly what we do just because we have a similar player on the roster already. trades are a thing. we don't have to keep TJD forever, or Dray or even Kuminga.

you have a scheme, system...when players that fit so well here from all standpoints present themselves you pull the trigger and figure the rest out later.

this is the no creativity nonsense i am always talking about and have been talking about for years which is why we're in the current state that we are in.

What's your thoughts on Karaban?


stationary shooter, very little playmaking or creation potential, he's okay defensively but has mismatches that can take advantage him, his value is 100% correlated to if his shot translates to the NBA or not.

i dunno, these guys are always kind of a hit and miss and when they miss they really miss. other than the rings I'm not sure what separates Karaban from a guy like Justinian Jessup who wasn't necessarily a great fit here. sometimes it's about more than the shooting itself.

wouldn't be the end of the world, but I'd probably rather go with someone like Jalen Bridges, just more paths to success and you're not giving up much from a shooting standpoint to offset it

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