Onus wrote:CDM_Stats wrote:Onus wrote:How do you track agility?
These guys are obviously elite athletes, but they aren't getting by people with handles per say. They're getting downhill, lowering a shoulder and bumping people off. I mean they can do a cross over, and Giannis has a nasty euro step, but for the most part they attack bodies.
Its tracked the same way any movement is, distance and time, after the event (the change of direction), relative to their top speed, and then regularized against the average for their position
And for PFs, they get by people with their handles more than most at their position. Now I do not know how they do handles metrics, but both LeBron and Giannis are top 4 at PF. I dont trust those kind of metrics as much though because thats awful subjective and they typically use things like unforced TOs, dribbles, contested dribbles, and things like that which leave a lot of margin for error
I mean I agree they handle the ball more than other pfs and don't really lose the ball comparatively to pfs. Also will amend that Zion does use a lot of fakes and hesitations to attack. I mean obviously these guys are able to attack off the dribble better than just about any other player let alone pfs, which makes them who they are. I'm just not sure they have to use wiggle or as much creativity to get their shots off because of their immense size differences.
JK has improved on being able to get downhill this year though.
Its all relative.. when people thing agility, they'll think of the elite people (specifically, Kyrie) and comp to that. But think about all the starting PFs in the league.. how many have really solid handles and can change direction quickly?
Circling back to Kuminga, I think he's proven at this stage that he's a SF that can play some PF for stints, like Dray can play C. But you dont want him to live there, at least until the help defense and rebounding start happening, if they do. So its actually more important that he gets better on COD, especially defensively. Footwork is a huge part of it, but not the entirety