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Re: Steve Kerr signs 2 yr extention, god help/s us. 

Post#101 » by DevinVassell » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:44 pm

vvoland wrote: I agree that Kerr has been poor this season. That does not mean I think he should have been fired in Dec.


So poor performance doesn't get you fired? OOOOKAY.

Rather it gets you an EARLY 35M extension.

I swear Kerr is infailab.. inflapib... almost perfect.
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Post#102 » by vvoland » Thu Mar 28, 2024 9:59 pm

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vvoland wrote: I agree that Kerr has been poor this season. That does not mean I think he should have been fired in Dec.


So poor performance doesn't get you fired? OOOOKAY.

Rather it gets you an EARLY 35M extension.

I swear Kerr is infailab.. inflapib... almost perfect.



Is that where you stopped reading because it was too hard or do you just enjoy taking quotes out of context to make a strawman?
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Re: Steve Kerr signs 2 yr extention, god help/s us. 

Post#103 » by Onus » Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:03 pm

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People coach like they're playing nb2k. Kerr wasn't 'not screwing things up' last night. He was one of the main reasons we won. From running plays for wigs early to get him engaged, to the defensive assignments, to steph starting the 4th.... It was an elite coaching performance and the response from this board was.... nothing. The same board that piles on the minute he keeps Klay in too long or plays CP3 with steph and podz or whatever else they don't agree with.

Moving Klay to the bench was the right call. Playing podz 30+ was the wrong call. Moving Klay back into the lineup was also the right call. Not playing moody much? probably wrong. Not playing JK early in the season? looks like a very bad decision. Not burying JK like most coaches would after he called him out publicly? Def the right one. It's a mixed bag with Kerr. I mean, look at how weird the spurs started the season, mostly due to Pop's weird lineup/style choices. Or the inconsistencies of a team coached by Spo. Two of the best coaches in the league struggled with things most fans saw very quickly. If it was up to this board, they'd all be fired, if not in front of the firing squad.

Pop isn't trying to win. He's trying to develop.

What inconsistencies by spo?



Develop by paying sochan at pg? come on, even the greats make mistakes and stick to them for way too long. I didn't say Spo was inconsistent, I said Miami was. Over the last two seasons, they've been extremely inconsistent. To the point where they're a play-in team that has a shot to make the finals. Spo gets 0 blame for the regular season record but all the credit for the playoff runs? Is that how it works?

Yes they’re developing sochan so that he can run offense as a big. He can’t shoot and otherwise be a liability on offense. They aren’t trying to win games. It’s like when teams played Jamal Crawford at pg or the Jazz starting John Collins.

The heat are constantly injured, most likely due to their stringent workout philosophy. No one really takes them seriously and it’s an indictment on the East that they made the finals twice in the last 4 years. The East is truly a bunch of nobodies. Dominating the leastern conference isn’t impressive in the slightest.
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Re: Steve Kerr signs 2 yr extention, god help/s us. 

Post#104 » by vvoland » Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:21 pm

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Onus wrote:Pop isn't trying to win. He's trying to develop.

What inconsistencies by spo?



Develop by paying sochan at pg? come on, even the greats make mistakes and stick to them for way too long. I didn't say Spo was inconsistent, I said Miami was. Over the last two seasons, they've been extremely inconsistent. To the point where they're a play-in team that has a shot to make the finals. Spo gets 0 blame for the regular season record but all the credit for the playoff runs? Is that how it works?

Yes they’re developing sochan so that he can run offense as a big. He can’t shoot and otherwise be a liability on offense. They aren’t trying to win games. It’s like when teams played Jamal Crawford at pg or the Jazz starting John Collins.

The heat are constantly injured, most likely due to their stringent workout philosophy. No one really takes them seriously and it’s an indictment on the East that they made the finals twice in the last 4 years. The East is truly a bunch of nobodies. Dominating the leastern conference isn’t impressive in the slightest.



Developing sochan so he can be an offensive hub and playing him at PG are two different things. His shot is ugly but he makes it more often than you'd think. It's not about winning games but playing sochan at PG limited the development of wemby and their other young players. As did the crazy idea of playing wemby at the 4, or the 5 but next to another big man like collins. Pop was off his game this season, at least early on and while I don't blame him for experimenting, he waited too long before abandoning experiments that clearly didn't work.

The heat are not constantly injured. Unless your definition of constant is different from webster's. Top 5 would be mem, phx, phi, cle, and NYK. 3 of those teams are in the east and are currently above the heat in the standings.
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Re: Steve Kerr signs 2 yr extention, god help/s us. 

Post#105 » by Onus » Fri Mar 29, 2024 2:34 pm

vvoland wrote:
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Develop by paying sochan at pg? come on, even the greats make mistakes and stick to them for way too long. I didn't say Spo was inconsistent, I said Miami was. Over the last two seasons, they've been extremely inconsistent. To the point where they're a play-in team that has a shot to make the finals. Spo gets 0 blame for the regular season record but all the credit for the playoff runs? Is that how it works?

Yes they’re developing sochan so that he can run offense as a big. He can’t shoot and otherwise be a liability on offense. They aren’t trying to win games. It’s like when teams played Jamal Crawford at pg or the Jazz starting John Collins.

The heat are constantly injured, most likely due to their stringent workout philosophy. No one really takes them seriously and it’s an indictment on the East that they made the finals twice in the last 4 years. The East is truly a bunch of nobodies. Dominating the leastern conference isn’t impressive in the slightest.



Developing sochan so he can be an offensive hub and playing him at PG are two different things. His shot is ugly but he makes it more often than you'd think. It's not about winning games but playing sochan at PG limited the development of wemby and their other young players. As did the crazy idea of playing wemby at the 4, or the 5 but next to another big man like collins. Pop was off his game this season, at least early on and while I don't blame him for experimenting, he waited too long before abandoning experiments that clearly didn't work.

The heat are not constantly injured. Unless your definition of constant is different from webster's. Top 5 would be mem, phx, phi, cle, and NYK. 3 of those teams are in the east and are currently above the heat in the standings.

Playing him at pg accelerates the offensive hub since he'll be in decision making opportunities more often as a pg. They aren't trying to win. Winning is so low on the priority scale for them it doesn't even register. Why is it crazy to play wemby at the 4? If they draft Sarr I can see them trying to play Sarr and Wemby together recreating the twin towers that brought them a dynasty. This is their experimental phase to see what they can do. Now that they saw it doesn't work with Collins maybe that just erases Sarr from their draft board. They're so young that you hope you see what other roles and options that they can play. They don't need to play optimized ball because they're exploring the peripheral skills of their players. You just have to hope that he balances it so that it doesn't create other bad habits.



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Re: Steve Kerr signs 2 yr extention, god help/s us. 

Post#106 » by watch1958 » Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:18 am

KevinMcreynolds wrote:we were 11-3 when Klay was benched and CP3 was out, now that they're back as the Kmart Death Lineup we're 6-7 in March

Warriors have a new slogan to show their support for the coach:

“We are all behind the Kerrve!”
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Post#107 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:10 am

With jk out, I thought he would double down on midget ball. But to kerrs credit, he hasn't.

In the past 3 games:

Cp3, klay, and steph have played a total of 4 minutes together.
Cp3, klay, and podz have played 24 and they've been our 2nd worst trio among line ups with at least 15 minutes together, only cp3, podz, and jk have been worse.

Kerr is playing bigger and more defensive line ups A big uptick in minutes for wiggins, tjd, moody, and gp2 has alot to do with our defensive resurgence. And giving those 4 more minutes, has also improved our transition defense greatly.
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Post#108 » by Onus » Sun Mar 31, 2024 1:25 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:With jk out, I thought he would double down on midget ball. But to kerrs credit, he hasn't.

In the past 3 games:

Cp3, klay, and steph have played a total of 4 minutes together.
Cp3, klay, and podz have played 24 and they've been our 2nd worst trio among line ups with at least 15 minutes together, only cp3, podz, and jk have been worse.

Kerr is playing bigger and more defensive line ups A big uptick in minutes for wiggins, tjd, moody, and gp2 has alot to do with our defensive resurgence. And giving those 4 more minutes, has also improved our transition defense greatly.

What happens when jk and Klay come back though?
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Re: Steve Kerr signs 2 yr extention, god help/s us. 

Post#109 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:05 pm

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Crazy-Canuck wrote:With jk out, I thought he would double down on midget ball. But to kerrs credit, he hasn't.

In the past 3 games:

Cp3, klay, and steph have played a total of 4 minutes together.
Cp3, klay, and podz have played 24 and they've been our 2nd worst trio among line ups with at least 15 minutes together, only cp3, podz, and jk have been worse.

Kerr is playing bigger and more defensive line ups A big uptick in minutes for wiggins, tjd, moody, and gp2 has alot to do with our defensive resurgence. And giving those 4 more minutes, has also improved our transition defense greatly.

What happens when jk and Klay come back though?


Tjd needs minutes because he adds size, rebounding, and most importantly...saves draymonds back.

Since the break.

Most of tjds minutes are with klay, but are a -6.7 netrtg in 254 minutes.
His second most minutes are with wiggins . 190 minutes and a +3.8
3rd with steph +2.4
4th with jk -14.5
5th with Moody +1.8
7th with dray +11.8

Tjd can't carry a defense, but put defenders around him and his game elevates.

3 man groups

Most minutes with klay and cp3. 151 minutes and -9.6
Hes often the lone big with small line ups after that.
It isn't until he's with

Steph and wiggins +16.3, but replace wiggins for jk now steph, jk, and tjd go to -16.8.
Klay and dray +9.4, replace green with jk, now klay, jk, and tjd are -13.3
He essentially needs dray or wiggins on the floor to not be a negative.

Wiggins, klay, and tjd -4
Wiggins, jk, and tjd ÷0.6

Dray, jk, and tjd -34.5
Dray, klay, and tjd +9.4

Klay, jk, and tjd -13.3

Dray, Wiggins and tjd are +10 with a 97 drtg when together.

I imagine kerr will go back to the normal line ups when healthy until he is forced into a corner.

Wiggs back to 4th option.
10-15 minutes for tjd and bulk of his minutes with the 3 guard line ups.
DNP for Moody.
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Re: Steve Kerr signs 2 yr extention, god help/s us. 

Post#110 » by CDM_Stats » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:48 am

CDM_Stats wrote:Wonder if anyone's changed their tune in the past month...


Same question, now
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Post#111 » by Onus » Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:11 am

Onus wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:With jk out, I thought he would double down on midget ball. But to kerrs credit, he hasn't.

In the past 3 games:

Cp3, klay, and steph have played a total of 4 minutes together.
Cp3, klay, and podz have played 24 and they've been our 2nd worst trio among line ups with at least 15 minutes together, only cp3, podz, and jk have been worse.

Kerr is playing bigger and more defensive line ups A big uptick in minutes for wiggins, tjd, moody, and gp2 has alot to do with our defensive resurgence. And giving those 4 more minutes, has also improved our transition defense greatly.

What happens when jk and Klay come back though?

Like clockwork with jk and Klay back disaster strikes
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Post#112 » by Sandy333 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:26 am

Now we know who was the real coach was behind the warriors 2022 champioship. Owners paid the wrong guy. TJD shutdown, JK shutdown, Steph doubled and superbly defended, Thompson didnot have a inch of space, Wiggins and Draymond left wide open. A masterclass from Brown, but Kerr is laughing all the way to the Bank. Shame on the owners, " pompompusly declaring " we are the warriors " after a couple of hard fought wins and then foolishly record extension for the coach.
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Post#113 » by Warriorfan » Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:00 am

Name a replacement who is better than man considered top 15 coaches all time and why.
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Post#114 » by jozef » Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:58 am

Overall tactics was very bad, rotations, matchups, plays, for most time it was an underachievement, even for this undersized squad.
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Post#115 » by Jester_ » Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:59 am

This was such a great way to lose. Really encapsulated the entire season. Klay 0 points in 30 minutes. Moody 16 points in 13 minutes.

**** idiot coach and idiot fans who still like him.
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Post#116 » by DB23 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 11:59 am

CDM_Stats wrote:
CDM_Stats wrote:Wonder if anyone's changed their tune in the past month...


Same question, now


Nope. I don’t think Steve had a good season but he’s far down the list of problems with this team.

Klay, dray and Wiggins are by far and away the reason the season went the way it did.

Our roster is not that talented. It’s why you can’t name one team that finished higher than us in the west with less talent. Change Steve and nothing changes. The roster needs surgery.
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Post#117 » by ILOVEIT » Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:12 pm

Moody was a better player most of the year and Kerr gave those minutes to a Klay.
TJD should have been at center all year.
Kuminga forced himself into the starting lineup.
Midget ball lineup changes after taking big leads with the young athletic players - choking those leads away or losing super close games.

These alone = crap performance by the head coach.
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Post#118 » by Impuniti » Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:24 pm

Warriorfan wrote:Name a replacement who is better than man considered top 15 coaches all time and why.

This is a comical statement and it's incredibly aggravating. It offers zero insight and something you would see on twitter.

Someone who does a great job 1 day may not be the best option for another day. Whoever replaces Kerr is not going against Kerr's entire coaching history. 2015 Kerr wasn't putting these utterly moronic 3 and 4 guard lineups, respected centers and didn't have emotional attachments to particular players when he had zero semblance of common sense or logic applied when handling them. They're going against a guy that in the last year FIBA not only didn't win, didn't even place :lol: . A guy who can be argued that he was the worst coach in the entire league this season, finishing 10th with the highest wage bill in the league and Steph Curry on his team. If you think that's acceptable, at that point nobody can change your mind.

Kerr doing a bad job this season doesn't change that he's a top 15 coach all time. Just like it doesn't change Klay being mediocre to terrible the last 3 seasons doesn't change that overall he was an elite 2-way player and one of the best shooters of all time. It's honestly infuriating reading these arguments of anybody coming in and dealing with someone's history. They're not competing with that, they're competing with what they're doing now. Otherwise the Warriors should sign Larry Bird and MJ in the summer.
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Post#119 » by Impuniti » Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:30 pm

ILOVEIT wrote:Moody was a better player most of the year and Kerr gave those minutes to a Klay.
TJD should have been at center all year.
Kuminga forced himself into the starting lineup.
Midget ball lineup changes after taking big leads with the young athletic players - choking those leads away or losing super close games.

These alone = crap performance by the head coach.

32' - Klay, 0/10 shooting, 0 points. and as usual crap defense.
15' - Moody, 5/8 shooting, 16 points, better defense.

It's not the coach's fault, all about talent!! In a game that Brown was doubling and focusing entirely to stop Curry the entire game. Great gameplan by Kerr and master adaptation throughout the game. It's all because of lack of talent though.
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Post#120 » by Onus » Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:34 pm

It's obvious Kerr is no longer coaching. He's constantly saying it's a collaborative effort. Meaning the players are coaching themselves and Kerr is just managing rotations (and doing a horrible job at that). Most coaches only last a few years because they get tuned out. And while the team may not be tuning him out, Kerr has lost his ability to actually make the tough decisions because of the relationship that he's built with the players. That's indisputable. I mean I'm not even sure what Kerr does well at this point. His challenges are a joke. He can't manage the players and set realistic expectations. His rotations are horrible. I guess he's got some ATO plays still, but everyone knows what he's going to do. Can't wait for Team USA to lose in the Olympics.

For the people advocating for Kerr what does he currently do well? Not what he's accomplished.
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