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Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12)

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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#121 » by Impuniti » Mon Mar 4, 2024 2:51 pm

thunderdunk wrote:Perhaps this was Steve's double top secret plan to not show the Celts anything prior to meeting them again in the Finals... or maybe not.

Since the Warriors have first place locked up and are not in heavyweight battle vs 5 other teams that can't stop winning just to make the playoffs, it's honestly brilliant. Great thinking from Kerr there.
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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#122 » by Onus » Mon Mar 4, 2024 3:35 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Steph having to defend up most of the year is catching up.

We really need that 6th seed to get that week off leading up to the playoffs
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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#123 » by cpower » Mon Mar 4, 2024 5:32 pm

we beat 2 good teams in the entire year - Boston and Clippers.. not able to beat good teams is a problem and i dont know what Kerr will do in the PS
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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#124 » by KevinMcreynolds » Mon Mar 4, 2024 5:42 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Steph having to defend up most of the year is catching up.


he was taking terrible shots, it had nothing to do with fitness
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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#125 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Mon Mar 4, 2024 6:43 pm

cpower wrote:we beat 2 good teams in the entire year - Boston and Clippers.. not able to beat good teams is a problem and i dont know what Kerr will do in the PS


Teams with a higher SRS than the Warriors:

Celtics 11.45
Thunder 7.76
Wolves 6.82
Clippers 4.76
Pelicans 4.37
Nuggets 4.25
Cavaliers 4.17
Knicks 3.67
Bucks 3.49
76ers 2.86
Warriors 1.96

Warriors record against these teams:

Overall: 7-17
Home: 3-9
Away: 4-8
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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#126 » by cpower » Mon Mar 4, 2024 7:59 pm

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
cpower wrote:we beat 2 good teams in the entire year - Boston and Clippers.. not able to beat good teams is a problem and i dont know what Kerr will do in the PS


Teams with a higher SRS than the Warriors:

Celtics 11.45
Thunder 7.76
Wolves 6.82
Clippers 4.76
Pelicans 4.37
Nuggets 4.25
Cavaliers 4.17
Knicks 3.67
Bucks 3.49
76ers 2.86
Warriors 1.96

Warriors record against these teams:

Overall: 7-17
Home: 3-9
Away: 4-8

we also beat them when they are not good. e.g OKC early, 76ers couple of times when Embiid is out.
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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#127 » by Onus » Mon Mar 4, 2024 8:09 pm

cpower wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
cpower wrote:we beat 2 good teams in the entire year - Boston and Clippers.. not able to beat good teams is a problem and i dont know what Kerr will do in the PS


Teams with a higher SRS than the Warriors:

Celtics 11.45
Thunder 7.76
Wolves 6.82
Clippers 4.76
Pelicans 4.37
Nuggets 4.25
Cavaliers 4.17
Knicks 3.67
Bucks 3.49
76ers 2.86
Warriors 1.96

Warriors record against these teams:

Overall: 7-17
Home: 3-9
Away: 4-8

we also beat them when they are not good. e.g OKC early, 76ers couple of times when Embiid is out.

we were playing with an anchor in klay though as well
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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#128 » by Impuniti » Mon Mar 4, 2024 8:35 pm

Onus wrote:
cpower wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Teams with a higher SRS than the Warriors:

Celtics 11.45
Thunder 7.76
Wolves 6.82
Clippers 4.76
Pelicans 4.37
Nuggets 4.25
Cavaliers 4.17
Knicks 3.67
Bucks 3.49
76ers 2.86
Warriors 1.96

Warriors record against these teams:

Overall: 7-17
Home: 3-9
Away: 4-8

we also beat them when they are not good. e.g OKC early, 76ers couple of times when Embiid is out.

we were playing with an anchor in klay though as well

That anchor is going to be there for several years, playing starter minutes and closing.
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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#129 » by Onus » Mon Mar 4, 2024 9:27 pm

Impuniti wrote:
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cpower wrote:we also beat them when they are not good. e.g OKC early, 76ers couple of times when Embiid is out.

we were playing with an anchor in klay though as well

That anchor is going to be there for several years, playing starter minutes and closing.

They were in the process of not having Klay close until Wiggins went out. Hopefully with these minutes Moody gets he can prove he should be ahead of Klay as well. BP did it. Now we need Moody to as well.
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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#130 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Mon Mar 4, 2024 11:15 pm

Impuniti wrote:
Onus wrote:
cpower wrote:we also beat them when they are not good. e.g OKC early, 76ers couple of times when Embiid is out.

we were playing with an anchor in klay though as well

That anchor is going to be there for several years, playing starter minutes and closing.


Yeah, he's currently out starting SG.
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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#131 » by Twinkie defense » Tue Mar 5, 2024 1:21 am

Nothing as life-affirming as getting the **** kicked out of you...
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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#132 » by Old_Blue » Tue Mar 5, 2024 2:17 am

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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#133 » by Onus » Tue Mar 5, 2024 2:23 am

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Impuniti wrote:
Onus wrote:we were playing with an anchor in klay though as well

That anchor is going to be there for several years, playing starter minutes and closing.


Yeah, he's currently out starting SG.

Our starting sg is out with injury
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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#134 » by watch1958 » Tue Mar 5, 2024 2:54 am

Onus wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Impuniti wrote:That anchor is going to be there for several years, playing starter minutes and closing.


Yeah, he's currently out starting SG.

Our starting sg is out with injury
Sounds like Podz likely back Wednesday.

Maybe we’ll never know, but I was curious what Kerr would do if Wiggins was available but Podz wasn’t. Would he go Klay/Wiggins or Moody/Wiggins or Lester/Wiggins?
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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#135 » by Onus » Tue Mar 5, 2024 3:26 am

watch1958 wrote:
Onus wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Yeah, he's currently out starting SG.

Our starting sg is out with injury
Sounds like Podz likely back Wednesday.

Maybe we’ll never know, but I was curious what Kerr would do if Wiggins was available but Podz wasn’t. Would he go Klay/Wiggins or Moody/Wiggins or Lester/Wiggins?

Hopefully moody can play himself so that it’ll be moody Wiggins. I think Kerr needs to be bullied into playing moody.
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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#136 » by Crazy-Canuck » Tue Mar 5, 2024 3:35 am

Onus wrote:
watch1958 wrote:
Onus wrote:Our starting sg is out with injury
Sounds like Podz likely back Wednesday.

Maybe we’ll never know, but I was curious what Kerr would do if Wiggins was available but Podz wasn’t. Would he go Klay/Wiggins or Moody/Wiggins or Lester/Wiggins?

Hopefully moody can play himself so that it’ll be moody Wiggins. I think Kerr needs to be bullied into playing moody.


Imo, moody is more playoff playable than podz and jk. I think he'll continue to prove his worth there. Kerr doesn't play him in regular season, yet won't hesitate to put him in a playoff game. Playoffs are just different and suits moody better like a wing version of loon.
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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#137 » by Impuniti » Tue Mar 5, 2024 1:43 pm

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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#138 » by Impuniti » Tue Mar 5, 2024 1:44 pm

Onus wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Impuniti wrote:That anchor is going to be there for several years, playing starter minutes and closing.


Yeah, he's currently out starting SG.

Our starting sg is out with injury

Playing the 2nd-5th highest minutes in the game despite being a "bench" player and closing several games.
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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#139 » by TB » Tue Mar 5, 2024 6:13 pm

CDM_Stats wrote:BTW when I critique our coaching staff and our analytics dept, its this kinda **** right here. You know how they figured out to do this? They went to the NBA.com stats page, went to shots dashboard, saw that JB was hitting 29% on WIDE OPEN (6+ ft nearest defender) from 3, and eschewed any type of real logic and said "lets hinge our gameplan on that". Nevermind that he's averaging only 1 per game, nevermind that nearly 30% of them were with the shot clock winding down, or that almost 15% were from well beyond the arc (heat checks/desperate shots). They used a limited understanding of limited data and made a big gameplan change 15 minutes before tipoff

That is general board level analysis. And that's how either the Warriors analytics department works, or how educated the coaching staff is on them. Top 5 coach indeed..


If this was the reasoning for the strategy, which seems likely... its a bit mind-boggling because that same data to me would scream "you just need to guard Brown close and force him left". The vast majority of his shots are "open" and they are the ones he hits at a solid clip. Its when he's guarded closely that he misses, as well as those wide open ones you already mentioned. So to me it seems pretty obvious you get someone like GP2 and stay ATTACHED, force him left and live with the results. There is also no benefit of Dray being in "help" like Kerr said, because Brown wide open is just going to get the pass and take the shot... no action is now going to go to where Dray is helping.

Is Boston better? Of course. But to say we can't match up with them straight up is also a bold coaching decision. You can put Dray on Horford. JK on Tatum, Moody on White, GP2 on Brown, Steph on Jrue. Can even throw Klay on Jrue and Steph on White, Moody on Brown if starting Klay. If you have those matchups and you play with more physicality and effort you have a chance as David vs Goliath with them... but if you just give them open shots they can hit there isn't a chance.

I'm not too bothered, they lived and learned. But still a strange approach.
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Re: Game 60: Good Guys (32-27) vs Clovers (47-12) 

Post#140 » by jozef » Tue Mar 5, 2024 7:06 pm

I do not think Boston is better. Jaylen Brown is in great physical shape and his shooting style is OK. There is NO reason to leave All-Star guard/forward open.
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