Game 62: Warriors vs Bulls

[Crazy-Canuck]

If steph is out, cp3 is great to have.

I actually don't see CP filling in for Curry in the starting lineup as a great idea. The recent success started when the Warriors went small and swapping CP for Curry in that lineup won't work, IMO.

Maybe go with Podz, Moody, Wiggins, JK and Dray.

If they go with CP in the starting lineup I think he will need to be paired with TJD as a PnR big but that puts Dray back at the 4 and the team is not as effective.

Really just have to hope Curry only misses a few games or it could get ugly after the Spurs back to back.

Only thing I know is that we'll be seeing more klay and that's rarely been a good thing this season.

He probably gets inserted into the starting line up. I think we'll see alot of podz, cp3, klay, jk, and dray line ups if steph is out.

[HiRez]

If steph is out, cp3 is great to have.

Exactly why he was brought in and CoJo let go. Not a 1:1 replacement and if Steph's out, they are going to have to do some things differently, but having a HOF PG available (as well as Podz for backup) is pretty great, a massive change from Wanamaker, Chiozza, etc.

That being said, they lost to a bad team at home when Steph played almost the whole game, so things are looking bleak if he's out and still iffy if he isn't.

[superunknown]

(other) horrible loss, at home, against a bad team. happened too many times this season, this team going nowhere like that. can't have a 17-16 record at home, just can't.

[CDM_Stats]

Im not sure if just plugging CP3 in the starting lineup works

The top 10 net guys he’s played with: Podz, Looney, Kuminga, Saric, Klay, Moody, Curry, TJD, Wiggins, GP2

Most noticeable name missing? Dray.. they are terrible together. Not a ton of time together (75 min) but results are really poor (-5.5)

With Curry likely out, starting faster becomes more important. Would say Dray becomes our most important player, so putting him with his best 4 matches would be best: Podz, JK, Wiggins, Moody. Despite Kerr’s desire to have 3 handlers on the court for some reason, a Curry absence makes that tougher. But they have 2 primary handlers (CP3/Dray) who don’t mesh well and 2 secondary handlers (Podz/Q) that probably shouldn’t share the court much - mostly bc of Q

Point being.. if this means 30 mpg for CP3, or really enhances his role in any way.. I think we’re ****

[jozef]

I did not watch the game yet, but looking briefly at boxscore and play-by-play still I boldly predict what were the lapses.

Hurting our ability to rotate and rebound:
- going small with GPII, Moody or Klay at PF
- going small with CP3 at PG and Steph (Podz) at SG
- assigning PF Kumminga to perimeter player (DeRozan)

I also do not like Podz at SG in the offense. There is simply lack of athleticism and skills. He should be mostly backup PG (sorry, CP3).

[floppymoose]

I never had any doubts GS would win, even when down 13. Even down 10 in the 4th. Then Steph got hurt. Thats the full explanation for the loss.

It’s my fault for throwing Luda in the mix. Disaster follows her.

[Romulus]

The question needs to be asked: why does this team lose so many close games?

[floppymoose]

The team always loses without Steph. They are built around him. Its not really related to the earlier struggles this season.

[jozef]

Do they lose many close games? I remember 15-16 record few weeks ago. My theory/experience say that athleticism prevail in the end (if there is an advantage/disadvantage).

[Onus]

I never had any doubts GS would win, even when down 13. Even down 10 in the 4th. Then Steph got hurt. Thats the full explanation for the loss.

It’s my fault for throwing Luda in the mix. Disaster follows her.

Agreed/ I really thought we were going to win even down 10. Hell I thought we were going to cover the original 6.5 as well. Once Steph got hurt we were screwed.

[BayAreaDub]

So unfortunate but I had this as a scheduled loss

Bigger concern is Steph going down. That sprain easily looked like an out 2-4 weeks situation from a laymen’s perspective.

[EvanZ]

Of course I have tickets for tomorrow night.

[EvanZ]

I did not watch the game yet, but looking briefly at boxscore and play-by-play still I boldly predict what were the lapses.

Hurting our ability to rotate and rebound:
- going small with GPII, Moody or Klay at PF
- going small with CP3 at PG and Steph (Podz) at SG
- assigning PF Kumminga to perimeter player (DeRozan)

I also do not like Podz at SG in the offense. There is simply lack of athleticism and skills. He should be mostly backup PG (sorry, CP3).

You did not watch the game and concluded that Moody was a defense and rebounding issue.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Klay and cp3 just bleed points in the 4th. And when they threw in podz, the defense went into the toilet.

You had dd hunting jk and dray unable to leave vuc. 3 small defenders who are unable to provide any help defense was a problem.

[cpower]

The question needs to be asked: why does this team lose so many close games?

Klay shooting 30% in last 5 mins
Podz/Wiggins also shooting bad

so we keep going to a lineup that cannot make basket.
we should try Curry CP3 Wiggins JK Green lineup

[cpower]

again, we are the record says we are, we are losing to a team that has nobody other than Vuc and DD and both went off. This team is .500 at best with full force and still has no decent lineup to close and 1st/2nd round exit at best.

I have have zero confidence that we can beat lakers or suns in the playin games.

[TB]

Dubs grinding out a win... kings blow their lead, looks like a loss...

5 minutes later...

Steph out injured, lose the game, kings play perfect last minute and steal back the win. Just a disaster scenario of a day.

[Crazy-Canuck]

again, we are the record says we are, we are losing to a team that has nobody other than Vuc and DD and both went off. This team is .500 at best with full force and still has no decent lineup to close and 1st/2nd round exit at best.

I have have zero confidence that we can beat lakers or suns in the playin games.

We have it, but kerr wont play it.

His default is to put multiple ball handlers out to close the game. Now we have 4 guys who are either too small or are poor help defenders while none being great on ball defenders at the same time.. Teams will switch hunt in close games, it's inevitable. So, since Kerr clearly ignores the defensive side of the court, we need to rely 100% on outscoring to win close games.

You cant throw out bad help defenders and expect to close. 1 maybe? 2? Maybe if steph is hot. 3? 4? You're going to lose more often then not.

[TB]

Im not sure if just plugging CP3 in the starting lineup works

The top 10 net guys he’s played with: Podz, Looney, Kuminga, Saric, Klay, Moody, Curry, TJD, Wiggins, GP2

Most noticeable name missing? Dray.. they are terrible together. Not a ton of time together (75 min) but results are really poor (-5.5)

With Curry likely out, starting faster becomes more important. Would say Dray becomes our most important player, so putting him with his best 4 matches would be best: Podz, JK, Wiggins, Moody. Despite Kerr’s desire to have 3 handlers on the court for some reason, a Curry absence makes that tougher. But they have 2 primary handlers (CP3/Dray) who don’t mesh well and 2 secondary handlers (Podz/Q) that probably shouldn’t share the court much - mostly bc of Q

Point being.. if this means 30 mpg for CP3, or really enhances his role in any way.. I think we’re ****

It's not going to happen, but I think you are on to something.

CP3 and Podz obviously need to stagger minutes with Steph out. And the numbers with CP3 on w/o Steph or Podz are drastically in favor of playing with Saric/Klay/GP2. And vice versa, the Podz numbers w/o CP3 or Steph drastically favor playing with Dray, Kuminga, and any of the other starters.

Not to mention starting Podz keeps CP3 minutes down so that we can close with him as needed.

Podz / CP3
Wiggins / GP2
Moody / Klay
Kuminga / Saric
Dray / Trayce

[Onus]

I just don't get when Kerr developed this aversion to defense