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Re: Game 69: Warriors vs Pacers, 7pm PDT 

Post#81 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:27 am

Last game and this game, the offense was night and day. It was just an iso fest this game with jk trying to go 1 vs 5. Last game everyone touched and moved the ball. We were forcing everything. Iso iso iso. Only 2 players really touched the ball this game.
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Re: Game 69: Warriors vs Pacers, 7pm PDT 

Post#82 » by jaymo123 » Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:29 am

SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:Does Myles Turner’s 5 blocks explain Kuminga’s and Wiggins bad shooting night?

We should have traded Wiseman and something for Turner before Wiseman lost his trade value and before Pacers traded Sabonis.

What I learned from Wiseman is that 2 timelines is a stupid idea.


Agree. The funny thing is the vets wanted Wiseman and the Kuminga/Moody picks traded the year they won the Chip. Only one of the players really contributes now, yet still has ways to go when it comes to basketball smarts.
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Re: Game 69: Warriors vs Pacers, 7pm PDT 

Post#83 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:31 am

Something is not right with gp2, he's been saric for a few games now.
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Re: Game 69: Warriors vs Pacers, 7pm PDT 

Post#84 » by Onus » Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:36 am

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Onus wrote:Kerr is terrible. Why change the lineup when you’re finally cutting into the lead


Yeah that was bizarre. Get it to 7 with enough time. So, he takes out dray and wiggins for cp3 and klay.

Bad offense and worse defense ensues.

We then ran offense through jk and Klay. Which led to bricks and or turnovers by the both of them down the stretch.

Really I want us to miss the play in. We look old and disinterested and we need a disaster so dunleavy doesn’t get any ideas he can just bring everyone back. I do not want Klay or cp on this team next year. Steph and dray are old enough. We don’t need more old people.

I still can’t believe we re-signed Kerr.
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Re: Game 69: Warriors vs Pacers, 7pm PDT 

Post#85 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:38 am

Onus wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Onus wrote:Kerr is terrible. Why change the lineup when you’re finally cutting into the lead


Yeah that was bizarre. Get it to 7 with enough time. So, he takes out dray and wiggins for cp3 and klay.

Bad offense and worse defense ensues.

We then ran offense through jk and Klay. Which led to bricks and or turnovers by the both of them down the stretch.

Really I want us to miss the play in. We look old and disinterested and we need a disaster so dunleavy doesn’t get any ideas he can just bring everyone back. I do not want Klay or cp on this team next year. Steph and dray are old enough. We don’t need more old people.

I still can’t believe we re-signed Kerr.


No one will want to hear it, but jk killed our offense tonight. It's was a whole lot of calling his own number and knocking everyone else out of rhythm.
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Re: Game 69: Warriors vs Pacers, 7pm PDT 

Post#86 » by Onus » Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:38 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Last game and this game, the offense was night and day. It was just an iso fest this game with jk trying to go 1 vs 5. Last game everyone touched and moved the ball. We were forcing everything. Iso iso iso. Only 2 players really touched the ball this game.

Everyone touched the ball. Steph somehow put up 24 shots but jk had 17 Klay had 15 dray had 10 Wiggins had 11 cp had 10. Out of these players only 1 person shot above 40%
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Re: Game 69: Warriors vs Pacers, 7pm PDT 

Post#87 » by Onus » Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:39 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Onus wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Yeah that was bizarre. Get it to 7 with enough time. So, he takes out dray and wiggins for cp3 and klay.

Bad offense and worse defense ensues.

We then ran offense through jk and Klay. Which led to bricks and or turnovers by the both of them down the stretch.

Really I want us to miss the play in. We look old and disinterested and we need a disaster so dunleavy doesn’t get any ideas he can just bring everyone back. I do not want Klay or cp on this team next year. Steph and dray are old enough. We don’t need more old people.

I still can’t believe we re-signed Kerr.


No one will want to hear it, but jk killed our offense tonight. It's was a whole lot of calling his own number and knocking everyone else out of rhythm.

Jk was awful. Not only couldn’t he shoot or make a layup he was turning the ball over constantly and was just awful.
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Re: Game 69: Warriors vs Pacers, 7pm PDT 

Post#88 » by Onus » Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:43 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Something is not right with gp2, he's been saric for a few games now.

There’s something with his right shoulder. He was constantly shaking and letting it dangle and had a huge ice pack on it. Gp2 is not good right now and moody should take his minutes if he’s not injured himself.

Dray looks hobbled and disinterested.

Really I think everyone is ready for the season to be over. There’s nothing left. They know they don’t got it.
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Re: Game 69: Warriors vs Pacers, 7pm PDT 

Post#89 » by whatisacenter » Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:47 am

The Pacers look fresh.

The season in a nutshell.

Warriors look old.
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Re: Game 69: Warriors vs Pacers, 7pm PDT 

Post#90 » by whatisacenter » Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:49 am

Onus wrote:This roster just isn’t


This.
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Re: Game 69: Warriors vs Pacers, 7pm PDT 

Post#91 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:50 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Onus wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Yeah that was bizarre. Get it to 7 with enough time. So, he takes out dray and wiggins for cp3 and klay.

Bad offense and worse defense ensues.

We then ran offense through jk and Klay. Which led to bricks and or turnovers by the both of them down the stretch.

Really I want us to miss the play in. We look old and disinterested and we need a disaster so dunleavy doesn’t get any ideas he can just bring everyone back. I do not want Klay or cp on this team next year. Steph and dray are old enough. We don’t need more old people.

I still can’t believe we re-signed Kerr.


No one will want to hear it, but jk killed our offense tonight. It's was a whole lot of calling his own number and knocking everyone else out of rhythm.


That's his M.O.

He's got no bag. He's a 9th option that the Warriors are playing as a 2nd.


This team doesn't have a second option. They just don't have anyone that good. Just a bunch of old guys and some young guys that could develope into fringe starters.
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Re: Game 69: Warriors vs Pacers, 7pm PDT 

Post#92 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:01 am

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Onus wrote:We then ran offense through jk and Klay. Which led to bricks and or turnovers by the both of them down the stretch.

Really I want us to miss the play in. We look old and disinterested and we need a disaster so dunleavy doesn’t get any ideas he can just bring everyone back. I do not want Klay or cp on this team next year. Steph and dray are old enough. We don’t need more old people.

I still can’t believe we re-signed Kerr.


No one will want to hear it, but jk killed our offense tonight. It's was a whole lot of calling his own number and knocking everyone else out of rhythm.


That's his M.O.

He's got no bag. He's a 9th option that the Warriors are playing as a 2nd.


This team doesn't have a second option. They just don't have anyone that good. Just a bunch of old guys and some young guys that could develope into fringe starters.


Jk can be great, but he just isn't a guy you give the ball to and get out of the way. Steph, dray, and wiggins are better in a motion offense. We did alot more(too much) of just letting jk force offenses. I blame Kerr as much of not more. He needed to call some time outs and reinforce motion and defense instead of letting his do whatever they want. I bet the touch stats this game is going to be completely different compared to the grizz game.
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Re: Game 69: Warriors vs Pacers, 7pm PDT 

Post#93 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:03 am

Onus wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Last game and this game, the offense was night and day. It was just an iso fest this game with jk trying to go 1 vs 5. Last game everyone touched and moved the ball. We were forcing everything. Iso iso iso. Only 2 players really touched the ball this game.

Everyone touched the ball. Steph somehow put up 24 shots but jk had 17 Klay had 15 dray had 10 Wiggins had 11 cp had 10. Out of these players only 1 person shot above 40%


Nah, I imagine the touch stats from this game will be really concentrated. We simply didn't share the ball.
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Re: Game 69: Warriors vs Pacers, 7pm PDT 

Post#94 » by Onus » Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:24 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
No one will want to hear it, but jk killed our offense tonight. It's was a whole lot of calling his own number and knocking everyone else out of rhythm.


That's his M.O.

He's got no bag. He's a 9th option that the Warriors are playing as a 2nd.


This team doesn't have a second option. They just don't have anyone that good. Just a bunch of old guys and some young guys that could develope into fringe starters.


Jk can be great, but he just isn't a guy you give the ball to and get out of the way. Steph, dray, and wiggins are better in a motion offense. We did alot more(too much) of just letting jk force offenses. I blame Kerr as much of not more. He needed to call some time outs and reinforce motion and defense instead of letting his do whatever they want. I bet the touch stats this game is going to be completely different compared to the grizz game.

Has jk had a good game against a good defense let alone one with a shot blocker?
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Re: Game 69: Warriors vs Pacers, 7pm PDT 

Post#95 » by ILOVEIT » Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:34 am

JK had a bad game....but it's because of Turner. This is what happens when Warriors lose to AD and the Lakers....Indianna....both teams are just bigger teams with talented defense centers.

This is not a JK loss...it is a loss that just confirms the Warriors are not more than an average team.

Time to realize that the Warriors can not play any better than they are with what they have. They are undersized, old and the young talent isn't good enough to carry the load.

Bottom line. Below average team and the record is exactly what it should be.
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Re: Game 69: Warriors vs Pacers, 7pm PDT 

Post#96 » by WarriorGM » Sat Mar 23, 2024 5:59 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Onus wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Yeah that was bizarre. Get it to 7 with enough time. So, he takes out dray and wiggins for cp3 and klay.

Bad offense and worse defense ensues.

We then ran offense through jk and Klay. Which led to bricks and or turnovers by the both of them down the stretch.

Really I want us to miss the play in. We look old and disinterested and we need a disaster so dunleavy doesn’t get any ideas he can just bring everyone back. I do not want Klay or cp on this team next year. Steph and dray are old enough. We don’t need more old people.

I still can’t believe we re-signed Kerr.


No one will want to hear it, but jk killed our offense tonight. It's was a whole lot of calling his own number and knocking everyone else out of rhythm.


He did but it had to be tried sometime. You see if he can do it. Today showed that he's not there yet.
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Post#97 » by HiRez » Sat Mar 23, 2024 6:19 am

Can't believe y'all are blaming the loss on JK. Yes, he was pretty awful. But so was everyone else. Also had 8 reb, 2 ast, 2 stl, 1 blk, and Draymond blew 2 layups that would have made 4 assists for JK.
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Re: Game 69: Warriors vs Pacers, 7pm PDT 

Post#98 » by floppymoose » Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:28 am

JK had one of those games that 21 year olds are going to have, on scoring. The rest of his game was well above the baseline of the other Warriors on the court. I lost count of how many times Steph, Dray, and CP gave no effort on transition D. There is no way this team survives the play-in, if they even make it.
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Re: Game 69: Warriors vs Pacers, 7pm PDT 

Post#99 » by DonaldSanders » Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:33 am

HiRez wrote:Can't believe y'all are blaming the loss on JK. Yes, he was pretty awful. But so was everyone else. Also had 8 reb, 2 ast, 2 stl, 1 blk, and Draymond blew 2 layups that would have made 4 assists for JK.



The game is definitely not on JK. The core is old, and this team needs an infusion of a 1B/2 level player. LeBron at age 35 had Anthony Davis in his prime. Old Steph has an out of prime Draymond Green. The Warriors are just not talented enough. I don't always like Steve's choices of lineup combinations, but there are no lineup decisions that make us an actual contender with who is on the roster.

It is alarming though that JK struggles against taller centers that have shot blocking ability. Right now JK is an undersized 4 who can't challenge big time Cs, and that really caps his ceiling. I know he is only 21, but a lot of growth would have to happen to make him a true #2 option. Right now he is more like a #3 option, an athletic guy who can just sprint to the rim when others can't keep up, but most of the time someone with shot blocking is in position he struggles. Zubac, AD, Turner, there's a bunch of tall Cs that JK has really struggled against.

Above all, I think the Warriors need a strong shooting guard who can play D and hit a high % of 3s. Basically the role Klay used to fill.
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Re: Game 69: Warriors vs Pacers, 7pm PDT 

Post#100 » by vagelis » Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:44 am

Warriors need to tighten the rotation.
The best players have to play 32 minutes and more.
If you have all the players to play 25 minutes, nobody feels responsible and the chemistry is not there.

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