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Re: Symptoms of Coaching Sabotage 

Post#21 » by CDM_Stats » Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:39 pm

Yea Klay never chucks out of control, young players definitely getting their fair share, nothing to see here. Everything going swell :lol:
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Re: Symptoms of Coaching Sabotage 

Post#22 » by CDM_Stats » Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:43 pm

Onus wrote:I don't think it matters possession to possession which offensive sets we run. I mean a coach calling out sets every time down when you have curry, cp3, dray would be bizarre. ATOs and when the team is in a funk yea it's time to run a set play and get someone else involved. For me it's more about how do you expect to play defense when you continue to give minutes to someone who doesn't try and just shrugs his shoulders every time he gives up. The players are developing bad habits and "staying" well how about you coach and put those players on the bench. That way that behavior is actually being punished rather than rewarded with more playing time?


Their bad offense results in transition defense

The idea that calling out a coach for not caring what they are running is calling for every play to be called.. thats not it. A team that has fallen off offensively, and that clearly cant hang by just rolling the ball out and hoping for the best... has a coach that wants to just roll the ball out and hope for the best.

Also, Kerr used to call a ton of plays. Used to call out sets and mismatches and everything... in the 4 games Ive been to this year, none of that. Very rarely are horns or splits called, its entirely up to the primary handler, usually Draymond. The result has been more forced passes than ever because after 10 years, it just isnt that simple anymore
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Re: Symptoms of Coaching Sabotage 

Post#23 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:45 am

Curry, Klay, Podz and Kuminga are all top 20 in offensive speed/movement (minimum 41 games and 25 MPG).

All the movement was great when we were blowing teams out in the third. Now the games are close they just look tired and blow leads. This team isn't built for Kerr system.
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Re: Symptoms of Coaching Sabotage 

Post#24 » by WarriorGM » Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:59 am

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:Curry, Klay, Podz and Kuminga are all top 20 in offensive speed/movement (minimum 41 games and 25 MPG).

All the movement was great when we were blowing teams out in the third. Now the games are close they just look tired and blow leads. This team isn't built for Kerr system.


Uh that conclusion of yours looks like a non sequitur. 4 of the team's players being top 20 in offensive movement would indicate that this team is built for Kerr's system.
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Re: Symptoms of Coaching Sabotage 

Post#25 » by Chupchup » Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:13 am

Romulus wrote:Honestly. I can't fathom any other coach in the league only playing his best player 29 minutes in a game that means absolutely everything to even having a chance to make the playoffs. Sabotage? Call it whatever you want, it defies any logic.

Lebron, almost 40, played 38 minutes tonight in a game the Lakers won by 5 points. If Lebron only plays 30 minutes, do the Lakers win? Probably not.

The bizarre lineups, the small ball lovefest, the constant times of taking out the guy with the hot hand? This truly isn't a coach chasing wins. What's important here? Winning? Saving players for what? Kuminga had to beg (and go to the media) to get any playing time; Moody remains silent and rarely gets to play; Curry's minutes get more and more reduced as the games become more important.

None of it makes any sense.

Then, to top it off, Kerr signs a two year extension and becomes the highest paid coach in basketball.

Talk about an organization that's totally lost its way. Light years behind everyone else.


Perhaps Steph not 100% healthy with that ankle ? If it's anyone else but Curry I would say maybe but I'm pretty sure Curry has a direct say on how many minutes he plays.
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Re: Symptoms of Coaching Sabotage 

Post#26 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:48 am

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oaktownwarriors87 wrote:Curry, Klay, Podz and Kuminga are all top 20 in offensive speed/movement (minimum 41 games and 25 MPG).

All the movement was great when we were blowing teams out in the third. Now the games are close they just look tired and blow leads. This team isn't built for Kerr system.


Uh that conclusion of yours looks like a non sequitur. 4 of the team's players being top 20 in offensive movement would indicate that this team is built for Kerr's system.



It indicates they are playing in Kerrs system. If they were built for it they wouldn't suck so much, especially at the end of games
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Re: Symptoms of Coaching Sabotage 

Post#27 » by WarriorGM » Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:15 pm

oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
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oaktownwarriors87 wrote:Curry, Klay, Podz and Kuminga are all top 20 in offensive speed/movement (minimum 41 games and 25 MPG).

All the movement was great when we were blowing teams out in the third. Now the games are close they just look tired and blow leads. This team isn't built for Kerr system.


Uh that conclusion of yours looks like a non sequitur. 4 of the team's players being top 20 in offensive movement would indicate that this team is built for Kerr's system.


It indicates they are playing in Kerrs system. If they were built for it they wouldn't suck so much, especially at the end of games


The success of previous years would suggest differently. If endurance is the issue maybe Steph and Klay aren't built for it anymore. Podz and Kuminga are young though so that sounds like an excuse if applied to them.

There's also the matter of some people saying they actually play differently in the 4th than they do the rest of the game. So maybe it is not the system that is the problem but that they are abandoning it.
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Re: Symptoms of Coaching Sabotage 

Post#28 » by Impuniti » Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:19 pm

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Uh that conclusion of yours looks like a non sequitur. 4 of the team's players being top 20 in offensive movement would indicate that this team is built for Kerr's system.


It indicates they are playing in Kerrs system. If they were built for it they wouldn't suck so much, especially at the end of games


The success of previous years would suggest differently. If endurance is the issue maybe Steph and Klay aren't built for it anymore. Podz and Kuminga are young though so that sounds like an excuse if applied to them.

There's also the matter of some people saying they actually play differently in the 4th than they do the rest of the game. So maybe it is not the system that is the problem but that they are abandoning it.

Why would they abandon it?
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Re: Symptoms of Coaching Sabotage 

Post#29 » by WarriorGM » Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:49 pm

Impuniti wrote:
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oaktownwarriors87 wrote:
It indicates they are playing in Kerrs system. If they were built for it they wouldn't suck so much, especially at the end of games


The success of previous years would suggest differently. If endurance is the issue maybe Steph and Klay aren't built for it anymore. Podz and Kuminga are young though so that sounds like an excuse if applied to them.

There's also the matter of some people saying they actually play differently in the 4th than they do the rest of the game. So maybe it is not the system that is the problem but that they are abandoning it.

Why would they abandon it?


Maybe they are tired or maybe they adopt a different mindset at the end of games. Curry regularly sitting out the beginning of the fourth quarter kind of enforces it.
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Re: Symptoms of Coaching Sabotage 

Post#30 » by ILOVEIT » Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:06 am

I wonder if Kerr is sending a message to the vets = "SEE, you don't have it anymore". Remember when Wiseman appeared to be dumped on Kerr and he started him and played him with a disregard for slow and deliberate growth. I think Wiseman was NOT Kerr' pick and he wanted to prove his point.

Kerr might be getting pressure from Curry, Draymond....to give the core another shot. Well, here it is and they can't do it. He ran ALL the vets out and they lost....again.
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Re: Symptoms of Coaching Sabotage 

Post#31 » by Impuniti » Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:54 am

WarriorGM wrote:
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The success of previous years would suggest differently. If endurance is the issue maybe Steph and Klay aren't built for it anymore. Podz and Kuminga are young though so that sounds like an excuse if applied to them.

There's also the matter of some people saying they actually play differently in the 4th than they do the rest of the game. So maybe it is not the system that is the problem but that they are abandoning it.

Why would they abandon it?


Maybe they are tired or maybe they adopt a different mindset at the end of games. Curry regularly sitting out the beginning of the fourth quarter kind of enforces it.

Curry has been regularly sitting out of the 4th quarter for almost his entire career.
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Re: Symptoms of Coaching Sabotage 

Post#32 » by WarriorGM » Wed Mar 27, 2024 4:11 am

Impuniti wrote:
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Impuniti wrote:Why would they abandon it?


Maybe they are tired or maybe they adopt a different mindset at the end of games. Curry regularly sitting out the beginning of the fourth quarter kind of enforces it.

Curry has been regularly sitting out of the 4th quarter for almost his entire career.


And the Dubs have been known more for being a 3rd quarter team than a 4th quarter team even in their heyday.
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Re: Symptoms of Coaching Sabotage 

Post#33 » by Impuniti » Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:21 am

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Impuniti wrote:
WarriorGM wrote:
Maybe they are tired or maybe they adopt a different mindset at the end of games. Curry regularly sitting out the beginning of the fourth quarter kind of enforces it.

Curry has been regularly sitting out of the 4th quarter for almost his entire career.


And the Dubs have been known more for being a 3rd quarter team than a 4th quarter team even in their heyday.

Ok.. and?

The Warriors have never been choking in the 4th quarter as they have been recently. Your point doesn't in any way disprove their poor form.
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Re: Symptoms of Coaching Sabotage 

Post#34 » by whatisacenter » Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:16 am

loser can't even sabotage correctly.
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