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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#41 » by Onus » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:53 pm

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Onus wrote:We got to be grateful that Bob left the team last year. Bob would've caved and gave Klay whatever he wanted in an extension.


Hopefully MDJ has a better offseason than he had last year.

I think the only bad thing MDJ did was trade for CP3 rather than Porzingis. Also not trading JK or OG.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#42 » by EvanZ » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:03 pm

Saric and Cory Joseph didn't work out at all. None of the two-way guys are worth anything. Part of the problem we're having attracting talent because they see who runs this team and how it's run. A guy like Moody constantly gets jerked around. Why would any young talent want to risk his ass playing here?
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#43 » by whatisacenter » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:07 pm

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whatisacenter wrote:
Onus wrote:We got to be grateful that Bob left the team last year. Bob would've caved and gave Klay whatever he wanted in an extension.


Hopefully MDJ has a better offseason than he had last year.

I think the only bad thing MDJ did was trade for CP3 rather than Porzingis. Also not trading JK or OG.


Extending Draymond and trading for CP were my two least favorite moves.

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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#44 » by Onus » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:08 pm

EvanZ wrote:Saric and Cory Joseph didn't work out at all. None of the two-way guys are worth anything. Part of the problem we're having attracting talent because they see who runs this team and how it's run. A guy like Moody constantly gets jerked around. Why would any young talent want to risk his ass playing here?

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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#45 » by EvanZ » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:41 pm

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EvanZ wrote:Saric and Cory Joseph didn't work out at all. None of the two-way guys are worth anything. Part of the problem we're having attracting talent because they see who runs this team and how it's run. A guy like Moody constantly gets jerked around. Why would any young talent want to risk his ass playing here?

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He was coming to a team that just won a title in order to rehabilitate his image.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#46 » by vvoland » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:48 pm

Onus wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
Onus wrote:We got to be grateful that Bob left the team last year. Bob would've caved and gave Klay whatever he wanted in an extension.


Hopefully MDJ has a better offseason than he had last year.

I think the only bad thing MDJ did was trade for CP3 rather than Porzingis. Also not trading JK or OG.


Was Porzingis available to the warriors?

On a side note, how did boston get Porzignis AND two 1st round picks for smart, gallinari and pick no 35?
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#47 » by Onus » Wed Apr 17, 2024 5:53 pm

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Onus wrote:
EvanZ wrote:Saric and Cory Joseph didn't work out at all. None of the two-way guys are worth anything. Part of the problem we're having attracting talent because they see who runs this team and how it's run. A guy like Moody constantly gets jerked around. Why would any young talent want to risk his ass playing here?

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He was coming to a team that just won a title in order to rehabilitate his image.

That was just last year. We've proven that if we sign a free agent we will give them a long long leash and a ton of minutes to see if it works out.

What young talent did we miss out on last year? The only player I recall we looked into and didn't get was Yuta Watanabe. But really there wouldn't have been many minutes for him anyway.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#48 » by EvanZ » Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:31 pm

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Onus wrote:DDV


He was coming to a team that just won a title in order to rehabilitate his image.

That was just last year. We've proven that if we sign a free agent we will give them a long long leash and a ton of minutes to see if it works out.

What young talent did we miss out on last year? The only player I recall we looked into and didn't get was Yuta Watanabe. But really there wouldn't have been many minutes for him anyway.


Really wish we had UDFA Keon Ellis :lol:
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#49 » by floppymoose » Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:48 pm

My thoughts:
Let CP walk
Let Orlando sign Klay
If there is a get younger trade for Wiggins, do that
Let Saric walk
Give big minutes to Podz JK TJD Moody and see how they do.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#50 » by Onus » Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:52 pm

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EvanZ wrote:
He was coming to a team that just won a title in order to rehabilitate his image.

That was just last year. We've proven that if we sign a free agent we will give them a long long leash and a ton of minutes to see if it works out.

What young talent did we miss out on last year? The only player I recall we looked into and didn't get was Yuta Watanabe. But really there wouldn't have been many minutes for him anyway.


Really wish we had UDFA Keon Ellis :lol:

Does he even get playing time here?
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#51 » by EvanZ » Wed Apr 17, 2024 6:57 pm

Onus wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
Onus wrote:That was just last year. We've proven that if we sign a free agent we will give them a long long leash and a ton of minutes to see if it works out.

What young talent did we miss out on last year? The only player I recall we looked into and didn't get was Yuta Watanabe. But really there wouldn't have been many minutes for him anyway.


Really wish we had UDFA Keon Ellis :lol:

Does he even get playing time here?


Making my point for me bro.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#52 » by CS707 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:00 pm

I don't think Kerr would have re-signed if there wasn't a general feeling from all parties that the gang would stay together.

Kerr was basically standing in as Klay's agent last night and I'm guessing the only moves he'll sign off on will involve Wiggins, Kuminga, and draft picks.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#53 » by Onus » Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:03 pm

EvanZ wrote:
Onus wrote:
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Really wish we had UDFA Keon Ellis :lol:

Does he even get playing time here?


Making my point for me bro.

Your point is we missed out an UDFA? We got Kenrich Davis over Memphis. Maybe our scouts just aren't good. Which is highly likely. Everyone is too nice and no one wants to do their job. They're more worried about maintaining relationships and vibes than getting the best talent.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#54 » by EvanZ » Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:29 pm

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Onus wrote:Does he even get playing time here?


Making my point for me bro.

Your point is we missed out an UDFA? We got Kenrich Davis over Memphis. Maybe our scouts just aren't good. Which is highly likely. Everyone is too nice and no one wants to do their job. They're more worried about maintaining relationships and vibes than getting the best talent.


I think we have good scouts. I think we get the worst UDFA's because the good ones don't want to come here. I was very high on Keon Ellis and a lot of other UDFA's that go to teams where they have better opportunities to play. This is why we end up with Kendric Davis and Lester Quinones.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#55 » by Onus » Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:11 pm

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Making my point for me bro.

Your point is we missed out an UDFA? We got Kenrich Davis over Memphis. Maybe our scouts just aren't good. Which is highly likely. Everyone is too nice and no one wants to do their job. They're more worried about maintaining relationships and vibes than getting the best talent.


I think we have good scouts. I think we get the worst UDFA's because the good ones don't want to come here. I was very high on Keon Ellis and a lot of other UDFA's that go to teams where they have better opportunities to play. This is why we end up with Kendric Davis and Lester Quinones.

We just had 2 g league players play half the season for us last year?
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#56 » by HiRez » Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:19 pm

Steph, Draymond, Klay, and Kerr are all going to be back next year, book it. I don't see major changes or championship competitor before they retire because they're still in tax hell and even shipping all their youth out doesn't get them a competitive team. Just too much decline to make up for, which is only going to get worse by the year, if not by the month.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#57 » by vvoland » Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:29 pm

Onus wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
Onus wrote:Your point is we missed out an UDFA? We got Kenrich Davis over Memphis. Maybe our scouts just aren't good. Which is highly likely. Everyone is too nice and no one wants to do their job. They're more worried about maintaining relationships and vibes than getting the best talent.


I think we have good scouts. I think we get the worst UDFA's because the good ones don't want to come here. I was very high on Keon Ellis and a lot of other UDFA's that go to teams where they have better opportunities to play. This is why we end up with Kendric Davis and Lester Quinones.

We just had 2 g league players play half the season for us last year?



That's Kerr, not scouts. We had better players in-house in Moody, JK, ddv, and even JMG. Those 4 could have gotten all the lamb/jerome minutes but Kerr just wouldn't have it. I wish we would bring up g-league players almost like a baseball team so as to see who can stick at an nba level. Like rotate 4-6 of them during a season and maybe we find a jasean tate or whatever...
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#58 » by Onus » Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:58 pm

vvoland wrote:
Onus wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
I think we have good scouts. I think we get the worst UDFA's because the good ones don't want to come here. I was very high on Keon Ellis and a lot of other UDFA's that go to teams where they have better opportunities to play. This is why we end up with Kendric Davis and Lester Quinones.

We just had 2 g league players play half the season for us last year?



That's Kerr, not scouts. We had better players in-house in Moody, JK, ddv, and even JMG. Those 4 could have gotten all the lamb/jerome minutes but Kerr just wouldn't have it. I wish we would bring up g-league players almost like a baseball team so as to see who can stick at an nba level. Like rotate 4-6 of them during a season and maybe we find a jasean tate or whatever...

So you agree that we do give UDFA or 2 way players playing time. So young talent should have no qualms to want to play here.

Kerr does play rookies and young players throughout his career. He doesn't play players who don't know how to play team basketball yet. Though he did give Wiseman ample time. He just doesn't like Moody for whatever reason.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#59 » by 510TWSS » Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:24 pm

see what you can get for Kuminga + cp3. We need someone that is wing height or better that can actually dribble.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#60 » by EvanZ » Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:54 pm

Onus wrote:
vvoland wrote:
Onus wrote:We just had 2 g league players play half the season for us last year?



That's Kerr, not scouts. We had better players in-house in Moody, JK, ddv, and even JMG. Those 4 could have gotten all the lamb/jerome minutes but Kerr just wouldn't have it. I wish we would bring up g-league players almost like a baseball team so as to see who can stick at an nba level. Like rotate 4-6 of them during a season and maybe we find a jasean tate or whatever...

So you agree that we do give UDFA or 2 way players playing time. So young talent should have no qualms to want to play here.

Kerr does play rookies and young players throughout his career. He doesn't play players who don't know how to play team basketball yet. Though he did give Wiseman ample time. He just doesn't like Moody for whatever reason.


I think what they see is that their peers like Wiseman, Kuminga and Moody got jacked around. It doesn't really matter why. It's just what these dudes talk about.
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