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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#21 » by ILOVEIT » Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:16 pm

Warriorfan wrote:Warriors stay under 2nd luxury tax levels.

What FA could GS get better than Klay with MLE
He gets resigned if warriors can stay under punitive tax level.

CP3 GP2 Looney are gone Podz and Davis are cheap cost controlled Subs.

Gamble Kuminga and Moody can improve their extensions will be costly due to repeater tax.


IMO, Klay sent away for ZERO is an improvement. There have been endless examples where dumping players who hold a roster spot is better than keeping them for even a dollar. EVERY minute that Klay gets are minutes Moody or others should get.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#22 » by Onus » Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:25 pm

Have to not bring Klay back at any cost. Let him play somewhere else. Get under the luxury tax completely. We aren't competing there's no reason to be in the tax.

Trade CP with JK.

We seriously need someone taller than 6'7'' that can play.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#23 » by Impuniti » Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:31 pm

Onus wrote:Have to not bring Klay back at any cost. Let him play somewhere else. Get under the luxury tax completely. We aren't competing there's no reason to be in the tax.

Trade CP with JK.

We seriously need someone taller than 6'7'' that can play.

Why would they join the Warriors when they see the way Kerr handles big players?
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#24 » by Onus » Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:37 pm

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Onus wrote:Have to not bring Klay back at any cost. Let him play somewhere else. Get under the luxury tax completely. We aren't competing there's no reason to be in the tax.

Trade CP with JK.

We seriously need someone taller than 6'7'' that can play.

Why would they join the Warriors when they see the way Kerr handles big players?

You mean play Saric until his legs gave out? Play Looney even though he was moving slower than molasses? TJD became a starter as a rookie. No one else on the roster is taller than 6'7''
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#25 » by Scoots1994 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:41 pm

marthafokker wrote:Trade Kerr. Do a Doc River while he still has value.


Reading "Doc River" in a Dubs thread scared me.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#26 » by Impuniti » Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:42 pm

Onus wrote:
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Onus wrote:Have to not bring Klay back at any cost. Let him play somewhere else. Get under the luxury tax completely. We aren't competing there's no reason to be in the tax.

Trade CP with JK.

We seriously need someone taller than 6'7'' that can play.

Why would they join the Warriors when they see the way Kerr handles big players?

You mean play Saric until his legs gave out? Play Looney even though he was moving slower than molasses? TJD became a starter as a rookie. No one else on the roster is taller than 6'7''

Also has the smallest team in the league (quite literally) and plays 3-4 guard lineups on a regular basis. There's a reason there's been different GMs with the Warriors and they're not signing tall guys all that much. The coach is the only denominator that makes sense.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#27 » by Impuniti » Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:43 pm

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marthafokker wrote:Trade Kerr. Do a Doc River while he still has value.


Reading "Doc River" in a Dubs thread scared me.

I've never seen someone fail upwards as much as Doc has. Quite honestly a legendary skill that I wish I had. Keep that loser as far away as possible. Someone perfect would be Ime Udoka but unfortunately he's with the Rockets.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#28 » by Sleepy51 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:46 pm

Onus wrote:
Impuniti wrote:
Onus wrote:Have to not bring Klay back at any cost. Let him play somewhere else. Get under the luxury tax completely. We aren't competing there's no reason to be in the tax.

Trade CP with JK.

We seriously need someone taller than 6'7'' that can play.

Why would they join the Warriors when they see the way Kerr handles big players?

You mean play Saric until his legs gave out? Play Looney even though he was moving slower than molasses? TJD became a starter as a rookie. No one else on the roster is taller than 6'7''


I mean, most guys between 6’7 and 6’9 in this league do not want to (and wouldn’t be good if asked to) play Center.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#29 » by Scoots1994 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:47 pm

My guess is they just continue as they have been. More coaching staff changes coming, a mid-season coaching death this year was a bigger deal than most think. They probably continue to slowly slide a few more years.

Lacob wants to be able to win every year but the league isn't built to make that possible anymore.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#30 » by Scoots1994 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:51 pm

Impuniti wrote:
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Impuniti wrote:Why would they join the Warriors when they see the way Kerr handles big players?

You mean play Saric until his legs gave out? Play Looney even though he was moving slower than molasses? TJD became a starter as a rookie. No one else on the roster is taller than 6'7''

Also has the smallest team in the league (quite literally) and plays 3-4 guard lineups on a regular basis. There's a reason there's been different GMs with the Warriors and they're not signing tall guys all that much. The coach is the only denominator that makes sense.


Look at Kerr's playing career and the centers he played with. He wants guys like Bogut/Duncan and he saw first hand how insignificant the position was with the Bulls in a much more center focused league.

The reality is that there are not many skilled bigs in the league, never have been.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#31 » by Onus » Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:31 pm

Sleepy51 wrote:
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Impuniti wrote:Why would they join the Warriors when they see the way Kerr handles big players?

You mean play Saric until his legs gave out? Play Looney even though he was moving slower than molasses? TJD became a starter as a rookie. No one else on the roster is taller than 6'7''


I mean, most guys between 6’7 and 6’9 in this league do not want to (and wouldn’t be good if asked to) play Center.

We've needed a real pf ever since OPJ and Bjelica left. We've never filled those roles. Saric was a good attempt, shame that his legs just gave out and he couldn't really play anymore.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#32 » by Onus » Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:52 pm

The biggest domino is what happens with Klay. If the Magic are really going to offer him a big contract (please don't just be smoke) and they sign him that will move us in a direction.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#33 » by KevinMcreynolds » Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:36 pm

Keep Steph, Podz, Moody, TJD cuz they're good
Keep Looney, Lester, GPII, Gui cuz they're cheap
Look to trade JK, Wiggins, Dray
Let Klay, CP3 walk
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#34 » by wco81 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:48 pm

Maximize the remaining years of Curry's career.

The Golden State Warriors know the current core group's run is nearing its end. But the Warriors have no intention of speeding up the process. According to Zach Lowe of ESPN, the plan remains to maximize the remaining years of Stephen Curry's career. And that means Golden State won't tank.

The Warriors have immediate decisions to make for Klay Thompson in free agency, and Chris Paul, who has a $30 million non-guaranteed contract. Jonathan Kuminga is eligible to sign a rookie scale extension, the Warriors are expected to at least check into trades involving Andrew Wiggins, and possibly Draymond Green.

Thompson would like to say with the only team he's known, but he and Golden State haven't gotten close on a contract extension. Warriors coach Steve Kerr said he'd love to have Chris Paul back for next season, but that's unlikely to happen at such an inflated salary.


https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/275367/Warriors-Plan-To-Maximize-Remaining-Years-Of-Stephen-Currys-Career

Here's the thing, Warriors have him under contract for 2 more years.

But I'm not sure Curry is thinking that it's over for him after those 2 years, even though he will be 38 when his contract finishes at the end of 2025-26.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#35 » by Sleepy51 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:57 pm

Onus wrote:
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Onus wrote:You mean play Saric until his legs gave out? Play Looney even though he was moving slower than molasses? TJD became a starter as a rookie. No one else on the roster is taller than 6'7''


I mean, most guys between 6’7 and 6’9 in this league do not want to (and wouldn’t be good if asked to) play Center.

We've needed a real pf ever since OPJ and Bjelica left. We've never filled those roles. Saric was a good attempt, shame that his legs just gave out and he couldn't really play anymore.


When you say PF (or even Small Forward) Kerr hears “can this guy play C?”
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Post#36 » by whatisacenter » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:01 pm

The last chapter of Steph's career needs a total makeover IMO.

The days of him running a marathon off-ball every game are over. They need to put him on ball and get some younger, more athletic threats around him. Get some floor spacers, rangey defenders and rim protectors on defense.

No 1. Trade Draymond....he can only play in a system where he is on-ball on offense and play free safety on defense.

No 2. Let Klay walk.

No 3. If ownership is willing to keep spending they could package CP in a deal but most likely they will let him walk.

No 4. Trade Looney and GP2 for better rotational pieces if you can.

No 5. Play JK, Moody, Podz and TJD
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Post#37 » by HiRez » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:20 pm

wco81 wrote:Trading Curry is a tough issue but I wouldn't necessarily expect a huge haul given his age.

Maybe OKC or other teams with a lot of FRPs, many of them likely to be in the mid or late first round, is likely going to be the return.

That might be OK because MDJ has already proven to be adept at finding talent in the draft. A bunch of midrange picks doesn't sound that bad. Maybe you can also get 1 higher pick or 1 young established player. Then tank for 1-2 years for 1-2 high picks on top, plus whatever you can get for Draymond, Wiggs, Loon, maybe Kuminga--or let him be your tank commander and sell tickets with highlight dunks.

In the other hand, I'm all for them keeping Steph if they pull off some miraculous moves to make it work, it's just hard to see how they do that. Nibbling on the edges trying to tweak one or two things isn't going to work. The time for bold moves is here, it's just a question of the direction.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#38 » by cpower » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:37 pm

i just hope the org can face the reality and not false hopes. This is a very easy risk based approach.

Risk 1: klay is bad and will likely continue become worse.
Option 1: keep him .. pros/cons
Option 2: trade him ... pros/cons
Option 3: let him walk ... pros/cons

everything should be math and data driven, i dont think its hard to understand what we need to do with our players. problem is are we putting false hope/emotion over the real data ? Steve Kerr to me is very emotional and he is not the right coach for this era. He would be great 50 years ago...
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#39 » by Onus » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:40 pm

We got to be grateful that Bob left the team last year. Bob would've caved and gave Klay whatever he wanted in an extension.
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Re: Official 2024 Offseason Moves 

Post#40 » by whatisacenter » Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:43 pm

Onus wrote:We got to be grateful that Bob left the team last year. Bob would've caved and gave Klay whatever he wanted in an extension.


Hopefully MDJ has a better offseason than he had last year.
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