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Re: Re: Re: Mock draft 2015 

Post#41 » by City of Trees » Tue Apr 7, 2015 6:42 pm

Red-Bulls83 wrote:
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Red-Bulls83 wrote:Only rumors I would think. I saw Cutler and the 7th for the 2nd, with the Bears eating some of his contract.

I would pass, because I'm not sure how Mariota will be that good.
I don't think the titans go for it.

It would depend on how much of the contract the Bears would be willing to eat I think.

No matter what Cutler rep may be around Chicago, he's still a **** ton better than anything the Titans have trotted out there in recent years.
The 2nd pick in the draft value is 2,600 points. The 7th pick's value is 1,500 points. That's a difference of 1,100 points which is what the 14th pick in the draft is valued at, meaning in that proposed trade with the Titans Cutler's value would be viewed as the 14th pick in the draft. No way in hell Titans hold Cutlers value that high.

IMO it will take 2 first, Cutler, and a mid round pick this year to move up to #2
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Re: Re: Re: Mock draft 2015 

Post#42 » by WIN » Tue Apr 7, 2015 10:02 pm

City of Trees wrote:
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City of Trees wrote:I don't think the titans go for it.

It would depend on how much of the contract the Bears would be willing to eat I think.

No matter what Cutler rep may be around Chicago, he's still a **** ton better than anything the Titans have trotted out there in recent years.
The 2nd pick in the draft value is 2,600 points. The 7th pick's value is 1,500 points. That's a difference of 1,100 points which is what the 14th pick in the draft is valued at, meaning in that proposed trade with the Titans Cutler's value would be viewed as the 14th pick in the draft. No way in hell Titans hold Cutlers value that high.

IMO it will take 2 first, Cutler, and a mid round pick this year to move up to #2


Wouldn't that be something. The bears gave up 2 firsts and a third to acquire Cutler and then they end up giving up 2 firsts and a mid round pick to get rid of him. So a total of 4 picks and 2 mid round picks for this guy lol.

I doubt this trade happens. Unless the bears eat most of his salary and give up at least a first and 2nd rounder this year, I don't think the Titans would even consider it. Cutler's stuck with this team for at least this year and most likely next.
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Re: Mock draft 2015 

Post#43 » by fleet » Wed Apr 8, 2015 11:25 pm

Mayock now has Mariotta #1 QB on his board. Interesting
Brad Biggs wrote:Fields was in the bottom third of the league in too many key statistical metrics for the Bears to commit to the idea of trading down from the first pick for a bundle of future assets and then building around him.
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Re: Re: Mock draft 2015 

Post#44 » by City of Trees » Thu Apr 9, 2015 5:00 am

fleet wrote:Mayock now has Mariotta #1 QB on his board. Interesting
But you had to tune into his show on NFL Network to hear why..... Its partly a ratings stunt. The flakes started to calm, Mayock shook the mock draft snow globe.
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Re: Re: Mock draft 2015 

Post#45 » by fleet » Thu Apr 9, 2015 5:06 am

City of Trees wrote:
fleet wrote:Mayock now has Mariotta #1 QB on his board. Interesting
But you had to tune into his show on NFL Network to hear why..... Its partly a ratings stunt. The flakes started to calm, Mayock shook the mock draft snow globe.

Hmm. I heard it second hand by some local radio guys. They took it seriously. Here's Mayock on his rankings:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... of-winston
Brad Biggs wrote:Fields was in the bottom third of the league in too many key statistical metrics for the Bears to commit to the idea of trading down from the first pick for a bundle of future assets and then building around him.
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Mock draft 2015 

Post#46 » by TNBT » Sun Apr 12, 2015 10:57 am

Just been looking at the Bears app and they have a heap of predictions from "experts" as to who the Bears will draft. There was one vote for Mariota, one for Ray, three for Danny Shelton, and the huge majority of predictions being either White or Cooper.


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Re: Mock draft 2015 

Post#47 » by clancyphile » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:15 pm

My mock at first-pick.com:
Round 1 Pick 7: Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State
Winston is a big, highly competitive pocket passer who played in a pro-style offense and showed an ability to anticipate throwing windows, scan the entire field and make the NFL throws. His wind-up delivery and marginal mobility outside the pocket are reminiscent of Byron Leftwich, but his arm talent and issues with decision making are more in line with Eli Manning's. Winston's football potential is clearer than so-called "system" or "one-read" quarterbacks, but every stone must be overturned in an attempt to piece together a predictive character profile on Winston. Winston's supreme confidence might be considered arrogance by some, but even that trait will be alluring to teams who need to find a franchise quarterback.

Round 2 Pick 16 (S.D.): Josh Shaw, CB/FS, Southern California
Played cornerback and safety at USC. Has above-average size for the cornerback position. Shows some short-area foot quickness and balance in coverage. Attacks the ball on underneath routes with aggressive swipes to disrupt. Can mirror and bring down runners in open space. Disruptive in press coverage. Gets from high to low quickly as a safety.

Round 3 Pick 15 (S.F.): Devin Funchess, WR/TE, Michigan
Big receiver with the ability to mismatch corners in the red zone. Long legs that can cover ground in a straight line. Transitions smoothly from catch to run. Has build-up speed to factor on run-after-catch crossers. Fluid hips for size. Uses size to defeat press coverage. Good body control and length to go get high throws that few can snag. Physical with "separating hands" at the top of the route. Smooth in intermediate routes and can earn a living in that area of the field.

Round 3 Pick 19 (S.D.): Denzel Perryman, ILB/OLB, Miami (Fla.)
Burly, stout, old-school linebacker build. Wants to hit and brings his pads with him when he delivers a blow. Delivers a jarring punch into oncoming offensive linemen on second level. Defends his area of turf and sees past blockers, keeping his eye trained on the play. Is able to disengage and shed blockers. Plays low and with leverage. Once he diagnoses, can trigger into gaps and disrupt.

Round 4 Pick 7: Jake Ryan, OLB/ILB, Michigan
Highly productive downhill tackler. Has burst to the ball. Gap-responsible and tackles through his targets. Possesses straight-line speed to chase from sideline to sideline. Second-effort worker. Good in zone coverage. Team captain. Known as a prolific film-eater who spent hours studying and learning offensive tendencies with defensive coordinator. Can play multiple linebacker spots and can fit in just about every scheme.

Round 4 Pick 27 (S.F.): Derrick Lott, DT, Chattanooga
Has a good feel and instincts for where linemen are headed and where blocks are coming from. Excels with his hands. Gets into opponents quickly with a strong jolt and plays with necessary power and technique to unhinge and discard blockers. Finishes as a tackler and has an adequate tackle radius. Well-schooled pass rusher bringing several moves and counters to the party.

Round 5 Pick 9 (PHI): Darren Waller, WR/TE, Georgia Tech
Late bloomer who is faster than quick and has coveted size-speed combination. Waller isn't just a tall receiver, he has legitimate hands and body control and can impose his size on mismatched cornerbacks.

Round 5 Pick 15 (S.F.): Craig Mager, CB, Texas State
Started all four years. Plays with excellent fire and motor throughout the game. Loves to hit. Quick-twitch athlete with plus play strength and sudden change of direction. Desired closing burst and drives through receivers, attempting to jar ball free. Feet rarely stall and has NFL ability to click and close on throws. Adequate mirror and match in man coverage. Explosive leaper who climbs ladder and has timing to attack the ball at high-point. Able to return punts. Was one of the standouts among cornerbacks at East-West Shrine Game practices.

Round 5 Pick 20 (PHI): Shaquille Riddick, DE/OLB, West Virginia
Promising frame if he can add muscle through diet and weight lifting. Comes out of track stance low and with upfield burst. Able to make himself skinny and squeeze into creases for occasional disruptive play. Plays with a solid motor and will continue to pursue until whistle blows.

Round 7 Pick 20 (PHI): Tayo Fabuluje, OT/OG, TCU
Huge tackle (6'6", 353 pounds) with natural strength and nimble feet. Played just two years of college football and has had to overcome difficult circumstances in his life. His footwork issues will take time to fix and might still be exploited by NFL defenders. Fabuluje might be best served moving inside, where his strength and short-area movement skills will be viewed as big pluses by offensive line coaches.
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Re: Mock draft 2015 

Post#48 » by clancyphile » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:50 pm

Here was another one:
Round 1 Pick 13 (N.O.): Landon Collins, SS, Alabama
Thick safety with a no-nonsense demeanor typical of a Nick Saban-coached player. Decisive against the run. Gets high to low quickly and is all over the ball. Leverages running backs to sideline and keeps contain. A true sheriff against the run. Tracks and stalks ball carriers with patience. Hits the gas and explodes into his tackles with purpose. Feet are under him and balanced when ready to strike. Aggressive and tough with a desire to intimidate. Disciplined eyes -- is not easily moved around field by quarterbacks. Wrap-up tackler. Physical enough to match up against tight ends and has the feet to carry big, slot targets. Transitions to throws quickly in zone coverage and limits yards after catch. Finds and tracks ball and times his leaps well. Aggressive in playing the ball and disrupts the catch with his physicality. Core special-teams player.

Round 2 Pick 7: Devin Funchess, WR/TE, Michigan
Big receiver with the ability to mismatch corners in the red zone. Long legs that can cover ground in a straight line. Transitions smoothly from catch to run. Has build-up speed to factor on run-after-catch crossers. Fluid hips for size. Uses size to defeat press coverage. Good body control and length to go get high throws that few can snag. Physical with "separating hands" at the top of the route. Smooth in intermediate routes and can earn a living in that area of the field.

Round 2 Pick 12 (N.O.): Josh Shaw, CB/FS, Southern California
Played cornerback and safety at USC. Has above-average size for the cornerback position. Shows some short-area foot quickness and balance in coverage. Attacks the ball on underneath routes with aggressive swipes to disrupt. Can mirror and bring down runners in open space. Disruptive in press coverage. Gets from high to low quickly as a safety.

Round 2 Pick 13 (MINN): Marcus Hardison, DT, Arizona State
Consistently times snap, and has the quick twitch to turn this trait into a quick penetration and win from inside. Has good arm length. Understands how to keep blockers away from his frame as pass rusher and brings force behind his hands. Rarely square as a pass rusher, using shoulder and hip turn to get skinny and turn corner. Good hand fighter. Comes out of stance with low pad level and looks to capture an edge against the run. Puts something behind his tackles. Showed rapid improvement from midpoint of season all the way through Senior Bowl week.

Round 3 Pick 9 (ATL): Denzel Perryman, ILB/OLB, Miami (Fla.)
Burly, stout, old-school linebacker build. Wants to hit and brings his pads with him when he delivers a blow. Delivers a jarring punch into oncoming offensive linemen on second level. Defends his area of turf and sees past blockers, keeping his eye trained on the play. Is able to disengage and shed blockers. Plays low and with leverage. Once he diagnoses, can trigger into gaps and disrupt.

Round 4 Pick 7: Tony Lippett, WR/CB, Michigan State
Was the team MVP and finished the 2014 season as both starting wide receiver and starting cornerback. Tall with good feet. Sits down and opens quickly vs. zones. Will adjust to pressure as the window constricts. Creative, varied release off the line of scrimmage. If he catches on the move, he can eat up turf and YAC with his long legs. Hands-catcher who can outjump and outreach most corners. Confident and accepted the challenge to be great in 2014. As cornerback, targeted eight times for just 13 receiving yards with three passes defensed. Adjusts routes when needed near goal line. Dominated smaller cornerbacks in the red zone. Saw 86.7 percent of his catches go for a first down.

Round 4 Pick 12 (CLE): Za'Darius Smith, DE/OLB, Kentucky
Linear build with well-defined upper body. Plays like his hair is on fire and is more than happy to mix it up with tackles in the trenches. Strong at the point of attack. Can stack and shed blockers using arm extension and power in hands. Will do the dirty work for a defense and is considered a good team-first player.

Round 5 Pick 19 (BUF): Tayo Fabuluje, OT/OG, TCU
Huge tackle (6'6", 353 pounds) with natural strength and nimble feet. Played just two years of college football and has had to overcome difficult circumstances in his life. His footwork issues will take time to fix and might still be exploited by NFL defenders. Fabuluje might be best served moving inside, where his strength and short-area movement skills will be viewed as big pluses by offensive line coaches.

Round 6 Pick 12 (BUF): Hutson Mason, QB, Georgia
Heady quarterback and steward of the offense. Worked from shotgun and under center. Uses quick-trigger release. Accuracy is his calling card. Throws receivers open. Plus ball placement and touch. Most accurate quarterback in SEC on deep throws, completing 51.9 percent during 2014 season. Has understanding of where to put the ball to maximize receivers' chances and minimize interceptions. Plays with calm demeanor and maintains poise in pocket. Shows pre-snap recognition of blitzes and is ready with adjustment.

Round 6 Pick 18 (BUF): Cameron Clear, OT/TE, Texas A&M
Looks the part. Massive frame with an ability to carry almost 300 pounds, according to area scouts. Flashes adequate athleticism in routes. Has shown adequate ability to sustain run blocks and help win the edge. Able to contribute on special teams. Ideal fit for tackle-eligible plays.

Round 7 Pick 8 (ATL): Max Garcia, C, Florida
Team captain who is beloved by teammates, fans and his coaches. Considered a hard worker in weight room. Has upper-body power to torque and move defenders. Phone-booth mauler. Shoots his strong hands inside and fights to keep them there. Features power, body control and hand placement to win early in the snap. Usually recognizes twists, coming off initial block to pick up twister. Despite gentle demeanor off the field, is willing to mix it up and turn a snap into a fistfight if need be. Showed off natural power in reps against Washington's Danny Shelton and Iowa's Carl Davis at Senior Bowl practices. Played LT, LG, and C

Round 7 Pick 12 (CLE): Larry Dixon, FB, Army
Productive fullback who is more running back than bulldozer. Gets downhill with vision when off-set. Trusts his blockers. Powerfully built lower body with ability to blow through half-hearted arm tackles. Very comfortable catching the ball.

Round 7 Pick 17 (BUF): Mike Reilly, DE, William & Mary
Worker bee pass rusher who took it to his level of competition. As an upfield rusher, when he smells the corner, he works hard to pivot around the edge and begin to attack the quarterback. Turns corner with tight radius and lowers his center of gravity. Has decent hands as pass rusher. Shows play strength on inside moves when he is able to stay square.

Round 7 Pick 31 (SEA): Mario Alford, WR, West Virginia
Has elite, run-away speed once he gets to his gear. Deep speed that must be accounted for by safeties. Can build on separation over the top. Pushes corners into early retreat, leaving open space underneath for simple throw-and-catch completions. Shows ability to become a more effective route runner on next level. Plays with excellent ball tracking and was able to go up and make contested catches on 50/50 balls downfield. Hands-catcher. Was mindful of quarterback and would work back to the quarterback. Kick returner with home-run potential.
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Re: Mock draft 2015 

Post#49 » by clancyphile » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:15 pm

Here's the third, quite possibly my favorite:
Round 1 Pick 12 (CLE): Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State
Winston is a big, highly competitive pocket passer who played in a pro-style offense and showed an ability to anticipate throwing windows, scan the entire field and make the NFL throws. His wind-up delivery and marginal mobility outside the pocket are reminiscent of Byron Leftwich, but his arm talent and issues with decision making are more in line with Eli Manning's. Winston's football potential is clearer than so-called "system" or "one-read" quarterbacks, but every stone must be overturned in an attempt to piece together a predictive character profile on Winston. Winston's supreme confidence might be considered arrogance by some, but even that trait will be alluring to teams who need to find a franchise quarterback.

Round 2 Pick 7: Shaq Thompson, OLB/SS, Washington
Played outside and inside as a linebacker and took snaps at safety against Stanford. Gained 456 yards rushing, averaging 7.5 yards per carry. Long, with athleticism and movement of running back playing linebacker. Like a magnet to the ball while pursuing in space. Second gear to finish the chase. Wins over top of second-level linemen. Can sink and search for cutback lanes as back-side defender against stretch plays. Glides laterally from gap to gap when playing inside. Reads the quarterback's eyes and shades the throwing lane as zone defender. Transitions easily from pursuit to coverage against play-action. Can cover running backs out of backfield. Instinctive with plus vision and twitch to make the big play. Scored four defensive touchdowns and forced three fumbles in 2014. Frequently attempts to strip ball. Fluid enough in space that safety could be a position consideration for the right team. Can be used as emergency No. 3 running back on game day. Had 19 tackles on special teams over last two seasons in kick and punt coverage. Football intelligence to process offensive and defensive playbooks. Strong work ethic and team-oriented player.

Round 2 Pick 23 (ARI): Josh Shaw, CB/FS, Southern California
Played cornerback and safety at USC. Has above-average size for the cornerback position. Shows some short-area foot quickness and balance in coverage. Attacks the ball on underneath routes with aggressive swipes to disrupt. Can mirror and bring down runners in open space. Disruptive in press coverage. Gets from high to low quickly as a safety.

Round 3 Pick 16 (K.C.): Devin Funchess, WR/TE, Michigan
Big receiver with the ability to mismatch corners in the red zone. Long legs that can cover ground in a straight line. Transitions smoothly from catch to run. Has build-up speed to factor on run-after-catch crossers. Fluid hips for size. Uses size to defeat press coverage. Good body control and length to go get high throws that few can snag. Physical with "separating hands" at the top of the route. Smooth in intermediate routes and can earn a living in that area of the field.

Round 3 Pick 18 (HOU): Jake Ryan, OLB/ILB, Michigan
Highly productive downhill tackler. Has burst to the ball. Gap-responsible and tackles through his targets. Possesses straight-line speed to chase from sideline to sideline. Second-effort worker. Good in zone coverage. Team captain. Known as a prolific film-eater who spent hours studying and learning offensive tendencies with defensive coordinator. Can play multiple linebacker spots and can fit in just about every scheme.

Round 3 Pick 22 (ARI): Lorenzo Mauldin, OLB/DE, Louisville
Confident and tough with high football character. Gives second effort and doesn't quit on plays. Arm over can make tackles look foolish in pass rush. Productive and active against the run. Has good awareness and will get hands in the passing lanes when his rush stalls out. Straight-line burst upfield to quarterback when he has him in sights. Can stick a foot in the ground and change direction quickly to beat tackles inside.

Round 3 Pick 29 (IND): Tony Lippett, WR/CB, Michigan State
Was the team MVP and finished the 2014 season as both starting wide receiver and starting cornerback. Tall with good feet. Sits down and opens quickly vs. zones. Will adjust to pressure as the window constricts. Creative, varied release off the line of scrimmage. If he catches on the move, he can eat up turf and YAC with his long legs. Hands-catcher who can outjump and outreach most corners. Confident and accepted the challenge to be great in 2014. As cornerback, targeted eight times for just 13 receiving yards with three passes defensed. Adjusts routes when needed near goal line. Dominated smaller cornerbacks in the red zone. Saw 86.7 percent of his catches go for a first down.

Round 4 Pick 12 (CLE): Gabe Wright, DT, Auburn
Great explosion into first step. Fires out with low pad level and plays with leverage at contact. Able to stay square and fight against double-team blocks. Has ability to get into gaps and disrupt the run game. Uses counter moves as a pass rusher, including a decent spin move. Shows signs of being able to read and react rather than just penetrate.

Round 5 Pick 6: Darren Waller, WR/TE, Georgia Tech
Late bloomer who is faster than quick and has coveted size-speed combination. Waller isn't just a tall receiver, he has legitimate hands and body control and can impose his size on mismatched cornerbacks.

Round 5 Pick 11 (CLE): Max Garcia, C, Florida
Team captain who is beloved by teammates, fans and his coaches. Considered a hard worker in weight room. Has upper-body power to torque and move defenders. Phone-booth mauler. Shoots his strong hands inside and fights to keep them there. Features power, body control and hand placement to win early in the snap. Usually recognizes twists, coming off initial block to pick up twister. Despite gentle demeanor off the field, is willing to mix it up and turn a snap into a fistfight if need be. Showed off natural power in reps against Washington's Danny Shelton and Iowa's Carl Davis at Senior Bowl practices. Played LT, LG, and C

Round 6 Pick 14 (S.F.): Cameron Clear, OT/TE, Texas A&M
Looks the part. Massive frame with an ability to carry almost 300 pounds, according to area scouts. Flashes adequate athleticism in routes. Has shown adequate ability to sustain run blocks and help win the edge. Able to contribute on special teams. Ideal fit for tackle-eligible plays.

Round 6 Pick 27 (DEN): Alani Fua, OLB, Brigham Young
Extremely versatile and often moved around the field in a single game. Rushed passer from the slot, A- gap and outside linebacker spot. Fluid in space. Frequently covered slot receivers. Good awareness in zone coverage. Zeroes in on target and tackles with consistency. Long rusher with burst off snap and acceleration to close. Takes a tight track to quarterback as rusher, playing with lean and leverage to squeeze the pocket. Can slip blocks, but generally leveraged his gap against run.

Round 7 Pick 28 (NYG): Mario Alford, WR, West Virginia
Has elite, run-away speed once he gets to his gear. Deep speed that must be accounted for by safeties. Can build on separation over the top. Pushes corners into early retreat, leaving open space underneath for simple throw-and-catch completions. Shows ability to become a more effective route runner on next level. Plays with excellent ball tracking and was able to go up and make contested catches on 50/50 balls downfield. Hands-catcher. Was mindful of quarterback and would work back to the quarterback. Kick returner with home-run potential.
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Re: Mock draft 2015 

Post#50 » by clancyphile » Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:15 pm

Here's a fourth:
Round 1 Pick 14 (MIA): Landon Collins, SS, Alabama
Round 2 Pick 7: Brett Hundley, QB, UCLA
Round 2 Pick 15 (MIA): Devin Funchess, WR/TE, Michigan
Round 2 Pick 28 (DAL): Josh Shaw, CB/FS, Southern California
Round 3 Pick 7: Denzel Perryman, ILB/OLB, Miami (Fla.)
Round 3 Pick 25 (CAR): Trey Flowers, DE, Arkansas
Round 3 Pick 27 (DAL): Tony Lippett, WR/CB, Michigan State
Round 4 Pick 9 (NYG): Tre McBride, WR, William & Mary
Round 4 Pick 16 (CLE): Jake Ryan, OLB/ILB, Michigan
Round 4 Pick 25 (CAR): Rakeem Nunez-Roches, DT, Southern Mississippi
Round 5 Pick 8 (NYG): Darren Waller, WR/TE, Georgia Tech
Round 6 Pick 7: Max Garcia, C, Florida
Round 6 Pick 9 (ATL): Zach Zenner, FB/RB, South Dakota State
Round 6 Pick 13 (CLE): Joey Mbu, DT, Houston
Round 7 Pick 4 (OAK): Alani Fua, OLB, Brigham Young
Round 7 Pick 12 (CLE): Mario Alford, WR, West Virginia
Round 7 Pick 15 (MINN): Tayo Fabuluje, OT/OG, TCU
Round 7 Pick 18 (HOU): Cameron Clear, OT/TE, Texas A&M

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