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Post#121 » by cmaff051 » Sun May 20, 2007 2:11 am

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Clippard is a very solid prospect, easily a top 5 prospect in our system which is arguably a top 5 system in baseball. Get ready to see some FILTHY secondary pitches tomorrow night. What worries me about tomorrow night is that Clippard's calling card is his control, and few pitchers have great control in their first ML start due to nerves. Even Hughes didn't have it his first start.


:nod: :nod: He's had great control in the minors. He has a plus changeup and a plus curveball. His fastball isn't plus, it's around the 89-92 range but he spots it well. He's got a deceptive delivery, kinda Tim Lincecum-like in the way his delivery is.
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Post#122 » by Lord Commander » Sun May 20, 2007 3:15 am

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Yeah, I agree.

That being said, I think that if we get a good pitching performance by Clippard tommorow, we'll win. John Maine sucks and I expect the Yankees to hit him hard. The Yankees showed signs out of breaking out of their slumps, and I expect them to just kill Maine tommorow.


WOW...You guys are really delusional :crazy: I know your getting rocked silly but check the stats before you make idiotic statements. John Maine would be your number one starter right now....
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Post#123 » by cmaff051 » Sun May 20, 2007 3:31 am

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WOW...You guys are really delusional :crazy: I know your getting rocked silly but check the stats before you make idiotic statements. John Maine would be your number one starter right now....


Yeah, John Maine is going to keep up his 2.15 ERA with his 1.20 WHIP and his very low .250 BABIP. :crazy: :crazy: Keep dreaming man, he is going to come back to Earth soon and he'll be a 4th-5th starter. Actually, he might be a 3rd starter, but that's more of a knock on the National League than anything because it's a pretty weak league where scrubs like Jorge Sosa dominate.
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Post#124 » by Lord Commander » Sun May 20, 2007 3:38 am

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Yeah, John Maine is going to keep up his 2.15 ERA with his 1.20 WHIP and his very low .250 BABIP. :crazy: :crazy: Keep dreaming man, he is going to come back to Earth soon and he'll be a 4th-5th starter. Actually, he might be a 3rd starter, but that's more of a knock on the National League than anything because it's a pretty weak league where scrubs like Jorge Sosa dominate.


Which Yankee pitcher is better right now?!? You wouldn't rather have John Maine pitching for you tomorrow night trying to avoid a sweep at the hands of your hated rivals than Clippard?!?! Come on man...And that week NL argument is getting tired when the entire AL East sucks except for my other favorite team....DA RED SAUX!!!! :clap:
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Post#125 » by cmaff051 » Sun May 20, 2007 3:42 am

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Which Yankee pitcher is better right now?!? You wouldn't rather have John Maine pitching for you tomorrow night trying to avoid a sweep at the hands of your hated rivals than Clippard?!?! Come on man...And that week NL argument is getting tired when the entire AL East sucks except for my other favorite team....DA RED SAUX!!!! :clap:


Clippard will probably be better than Maine when it is all said and done. Clippard has much better secondary stuff than Maine and much better command.

I'd rather have these pitchers over Maine:
Hughes
Wang
Pettitte
Mussina

The problem with you is that you think that Maine is going to keep up this insane ERA all year.. you are delusional. He's not that good. He'll come back to Earth soon.
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Post#126 » by Lord Commander » Sun May 20, 2007 3:43 am

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Clippard will probably be better than Maine when it is all said and done. Clippard has much better secondary stuff than Maine and much better command.

I'd rather have these pitchers over Maine:
Hughes
Wang
Pettitte
Mussina

The problem with you is that you think that Maine is going to keep up this insane ERA all year.. you are delusional. He's not that good. He'll come back to Earth soon.


ummm, you didn't answer my question :eek1:
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Post#127 » by cmaff051 » Sun May 20, 2007 3:46 am

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ummm, you didn't answer my question :eek1:


Which was? And you dodged my question..
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Post#128 » by Lord Commander » Sun May 20, 2007 3:49 am

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Which was? And you dodged my question..


You don't read??? Let me help you---take the mouse (the little thingie with the string attached), scroll up to my previous post and read what I asked you about Maine's stats in relation to the current Skankie starting five in general and Clippard in particular...
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Post#129 » by cmaff051 » Sun May 20, 2007 3:52 am

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You don't read??? Let me help you---take the mouse (the little thingie with the string attached), scroll up to my previous post and read what I asked you about Maine's stats in relation to the current Skankie starting five in general and Clippard in particular...


First of all, I don't like the name Skankee. You are in a Yankee forum. Not a Met forum. How about you stop using slanderous (and unfunny) names. Second of all, I don't appreciate your tone. You should watch your mouth or I would watch out for a suspension.

Third, would you like to ask me the question again? (kindly)
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Post#130 » by Manhattan Project » Sun May 20, 2007 4:27 am

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First of all, I don't like the name Skankee. You are in a Yankee forum. Not a Met forum. How about you stop using slanderous (and unfunny) names. Second of all, I don't appreciate your tone. You should watch your mouth or I would watch out for a suspension.

Third, would you like to ask me the question again? (kindly)


Just Remember its a two way street...

Also when the pitching staff if back to full strength, who is the Long Relief Pitcher? I was stunned when Myers was brought in, the guy is nothing but a two batter specialist in this point of his career.
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Post#131 » by cmaff051 » Sun May 20, 2007 4:28 am

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Just Remember its a two way street...

Also when the pitching staff if back to full strength, who is the Long Relief Pitcher? I was stunned when Myers was brought in, the guy is nothing but a two batter specialist in this point of his career.


We don't have a long relief pitcher, that's one of the flaws of our roster... we have two platoon players at 1B, but no room for a long man...
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Post#132 » by Manhattan Project » Sun May 20, 2007 4:31 am

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We don't have a long relief pitcher, that's one of the flaws of our roster... we have two platoon players at 1B, but no room for a long man...


Clemens l Wang l Mussina l Pettite l Hughes l Clippard l Wright l Rasner l Igawa. You dont think one of them would be moved to the pen for long relief.

You can knock off the first five, then one of the next four Id figured would be the long relief.
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Post#133 » by cmaff051 » Sun May 20, 2007 4:33 am

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Clemens l Wang l Mussina l Pettite l Hughes l Clippard l Wright l Rasner l Igawa. You dont think one of them would be moved to the pen for long relief.

You can knock off the first five, then one of the next four Id figured would be the long relief.


I think Igawa is a likely candidate and perhaps Wright, but Rasner is injured for the next 3 months and Clippard is more valuable as a starter.

Igawa is in Tampa working on his mechanics... who knows when he'll be back in the majors.
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Post#134 » by KnickTerp12 » Sun May 20, 2007 5:51 am

What are Clippard's minor league stats?
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Post#135 » by gooGD » Sun May 20, 2007 6:01 am

so much for that JV team?
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Post#136 » by YungNeef » Sun May 20, 2007 6:20 am

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Yeah, John Maine is going to keep up his 2.15 ERA with his 1.20 WHIP and his very low .250 BABIP. :crazy: :crazy: Keep dreaming man, he is going to come back to Earth soon and he'll be a 4th-5th starter. Actually, he might be a 3rd starter, but that's more of a knock on the National League than anything because it's a pretty weak league where scrubs like Jorge Sosa dominate.


Maine didn't suck last season and he has pitched good this year. Might be time to just give the guy some credit. The Maine you remember with the O's is not the same Maine the Mets have. Peterson has worked wonders for him. Just like he did Perez.
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Post#137 » by gooGD » Sun May 20, 2007 6:27 am

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Clippard will probably be better than Maine when it is all said and done. Clippard has much better secondary stuff than Maine and much better command.


delusional.

you have not seen this guy make 1 pitch in the big leagues ever, and you're ready to proclaim him better than a proven young starter? so just because you've read a few blogs and read 1 or 2 scouting reports you're ready to say hes better than maine?


give me a break.

fanboyism at its highest- and its getting disgusting coming out of your mouth.
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Post#138 » by gooGD » Sun May 20, 2007 6:30 am

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Yeah, John Maine is going to keep up his 2.15 ERA with his 1.20 WHIP and his very low .250 BABIP. :crazy: :crazy: Keep dreaming man, he is going to come back to Earth soon and he'll be a 4th-5th starter. Actually, he might be a 3rd starter, but that's more of a knock on the National League than anything because it's a pretty weak league where scrubs like Jorge Sosa dominate.


my god.. this post proves you have no clue about what you're talking about.
if you had any sense of what is really going on you would talk about his shaky last few starts. coming down to earth?

jorge sosa a scrub?
who do you have more confidence tomorrow if you had to pick your starter...

karstens or sosa
rasner or sosa
igawa or sosa
clippard or sosa

come on man. I understand you gotta root for your own team and fluff up your own players. but you're so blind its a joke.
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Post#139 » by Luv those Knicks » Sun May 20, 2007 8:43 am

TKF wrote:How did damon not get that? I mean close the damn glove!!!



I usually respect your posts TKF, but it was against the wall, he jumped - arm movement may have been restricted with the wall there. It wasn't quite a popcorn play (those are even harder with a fan sticking his popcorn box in your glove) - but the wall plays tricks on a player, both psychological and physical. Lots of players get hurt running into the wall.

I realize it was a bit of a gift homer - could have gone either way, but it wasn't exactly an easy play, even with teh ball hitting the glove.
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Post#140 » by cmaff051 » Sun May 20, 2007 1:49 pm

gooGD wrote:my god.. this post proves you have no clue about what you're talking about.
if you had any sense of what is really going on you would talk about his shaky last few starts. coming down to earth?

jorge sosa a scrub?
who do you have more confidence tomorrow if you had to pick your starter...

karstens or sosa
rasner or sosa
igawa or sosa
clippard or sosa

come on man. I understand you gotta root for your own team and fluff up your own players. but you're so blind its a joke.


So Sosa makes 2 good starts and he's better than anybody on our staff? :crazy:

You guys were saying the same things about Alay Soler last year. Jorge Sosa sucks. He isn't good. He's having a bunch of flukey starts and he'll come back to Earth. Somehow Mets fans don't understand that concept. :crazy:

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