2024 NFL Draft - five picks in the first three rounds (seven in four! [probably])

[jakecronus8]

People being surprised by potentially taking Mims arent necessarily referencing his talent or value as a prospect. It's just that he doesn't match the physical profile of guys they take and doesn't have positional versatility like they typically want. Pretty much all their guys are like 6'4ish right around 300 lbs. Mims is 6'7-330ish. Doesn't match their M.O.

[ReasonablySober]

People being surprised by potentially taking Mims arent necessarily referencing his talent or value as a prospect. It's just that he doesn't match the physical profile of guys they take and doesn't have positional versatility like they typically want. Pretty much all their guys are like 6'4ish right around 300 lbs. Mims is 6'7-330ish. Doesn't match their M.O.

They've got guys who are 6'9" 370, 6'7" 322, 6'6" 324, and 6'8" 314.

I think the positional thresholds are mostly BS. Exceptions are made and rules are broken with every draft class.

[MVP2110]

I believe they have size thresholds for too small of a player. But I'm not sure they have too big of a player thresholds aslong as that player meets their athletic testing thresholds

[jakecronus8]

People being surprised by potentially taking Mims arent necessarily referencing his talent or value as a prospect. It's just that he doesn't match the physical profile of guys they take and doesn't have positional versatility like they typically want. Pretty much all their guys are like 6'4ish right around 300 lbs. Mims is 6'7-330ish. Doesn't match their M.O.

They've got guys who are 6'9" 370, 6'7" 322, 6'6" 324, and 6'8" 314.

I think the positional thresholds are mostly BS. Exceptions are made and rules are broken with every draft class.

The guys you mentioned were undrafted, and Walker was a 7th round guy. Even someone like Yosh was an UDFA. Certainly when it comes to his picks, Guter has a type.

Long story short, when it comes to the giant classic archetype tackles, I'll believe it when I see it. I'm certainly not opposed to it.

[Frank Nova]

I think if Tom really is the future center moving forward after this season, Guyton or Mims being the pick at 25 grows substantially if either is still available. I wonder who Gute would prefer between those 2?

I personally am still holding out hope we draft Dejean in the 1st. Then the OT from BYU with the crazy name in the 2nd round. That could still help the OL transition from Meyers after the season. Or, during the season if Meyers is playing like **** and they make the switch mid season or whatever.

[ReasonablySober]

People being surprised by potentially taking Mims arent necessarily referencing his talent or value as a prospect. It's just that he doesn't match the physical profile of guys they take and doesn't have positional versatility like they typically want. Pretty much all their guys are like 6'4ish right around 300 lbs. Mims is 6'7-330ish. Doesn't match their M.O.

They've got guys who are 6'9" 370, 6'7" 322, 6'6" 324, and 6'8" 314.

I think the positional thresholds are mostly BS. Exceptions are made and rules are broken with every draft class.

The guys you mentioned were undrafted, and Walker was a 7th round guy. Even someone like Yosh was an UDFA. Certainly when it comes to his picks, Guter has a type.

Long story short, when it comes to the giant classic archetype tackles, I'll believe it when I see it. I'm certainly not opposed to it.

The thing is the Packers have had stable OT for decades. It's often times the mid to late round guys who end up becoming long term starters. Honestly, it's been rare that that need and opportunity have lined up to take the kind of OT that Mims or Guyton represent. They typically come off the board much earlier in the first round, and the Packers have other needs to address.

This year the Packers don't have any immediate needs that a first round pick is likely to fill.

[Ron Swanson]

Fansided threw out a mock trade proposal where we send Kenny Clark to Dallas in return for #56, their 2025 1st round pick, and a 2025 4th rounder. I love Kenny but I probably couldn't say yes and hang up the phone fast enough if that was ever offered.

[MVP2110]

Fansided threw out a mock trade proposal where we send Kenny Clark to Dallas in return for #56, their 2025 1st round pick, and a 2025 4th rounder. I love Kenny but I probably couldn't say yes and hang up the phone fast enough if that was ever offered.

Yea I'd absolutely do that rather than give Kenny a 3rd contract

[ReasonablySober]

Clark grades for his career:

16: 67.3
17: 87.3
18: 90.2
19: 79.9
20: 73.8
21: 74.9
22: 66.4
23: 68.8

Packers currently have Clark, Wyatt, Brooks, Slaton, and Ford to play on the interior. You can add LVN and Wooden if you count them as three techniques.

I'd deal Clark in a heartbeat.

[Profound23]

Fansided threw out a mock trade proposal where we send Kenny Clark to Dallas in return for #56, their 2025 1st round pick, and a 2025 4th rounder. I love Kenny but I probably couldn't say yes and hang up the phone fast enough if that was ever offered.

Easily...there is no way we get a future first for him, let alone a second and a future first.

[Profound23]

People being surprised by potentially taking Mims arent necessarily referencing his talent or value as a prospect. It's just that he doesn't match the physical profile of guys they take and doesn't have positional versatility like they typically want. Pretty much all their guys are like 6'4ish right around 300 lbs. Mims is 6'7-330ish. Doesn't match their M.O.

They've got guys who are 6'9" 370, 6'7" 322, 6'6" 324, and 6'8" 314.

I think the positional thresholds are mostly BS. Exceptions are made and rules are broken with every draft class.

The guys you mentioned were undrafted, and Walker was a 7th round guy. Even someone like Yosh was an UDFA. Certainly when it comes to his picks, Guter has a type.

Long story short, when it comes to the giant classic archetype tackles, I'll believe it when I see it. I'm certainly not opposed to it.

The thought of Walker on one side, Mims on the other with Zach Tom and Jenkins in the middle is exciting. I know size isn't everything (that's what my wife tells me anyways) but you can teach technique.

[UWM_Brew_Buck]

I really doubt they would put an all pro caliber RT at C just to draft another RT. It would be quite intriguing though. If they do go OT in the early rounds I would bet on Walker being the starter for 1 more year or the swing tackle. I would say Tom has better chance of moving to LT than C as well.

[ReasonablySober]

Tom is not an All-Pro caliber RT. He didn't even grade out as a better pass protector than Walker last season according to PFF.

Where Tom was much better is as a run blocker. Combine that with his size and it's easy to connect the dots in Demovsky's report, that the Packers see his best fit as a center.

[Turk Nowitzki]

Tom is not an All-Pro caliber RT. He didn't even grade out as a better pass protector than Walker last season according to PFF.

Where Tom was much better is as a run blocker. Combine that with his size and it's easy to connect the dots in Demovsky's report, that the Packers see his best fit as a center.

Come on, you're being contrarian just for the sake of it now.

[Ron Swanson]

Fansided threw out a mock trade proposal where we send Kenny Clark to Dallas in return for #56, their 2025 1st round pick, and a 2025 4th rounder. I love Kenny but I probably couldn't say yes and hang up the phone fast enough if that was ever offered.

Easily...there is no way we get a future first for him, let alone a second and a future first.

Why not?

[ReasonablySober]

Tom is not an All-Pro caliber RT. He didn't even grade out as a better pass protector than Walker last season according to PFF.

Where Tom was much better is as a run blocker. Combine that with his size and it's easy to connect the dots in Demovsky's report, that the Packers see his best fit as a center.

Come on, you're being contrarian just for the sake of it now.

I honestly can't tell if you're being serious or not and I'm not in on the bit.

[ReasonablySober]

Fansided threw out a mock trade proposal where we send Kenny Clark to Dallas in return for #56, their 2025 1st round pick, and a 2025 4th rounder. I love Kenny but I probably couldn't say yes and hang up the phone fast enough if that was ever offered.

Easily...there is no way we get a future first for him, let alone a second and a future first.

Why not?

2024 is the final year of his contract, he's almost 30, and he hasn't been that good.

I think the Packers would do well to get a 3rd for him.

[Profound23]

Easily...there is no way we get a future first for him, let alone a second and a future first.

Why not?

2024 is the final year of his contract, he's almost 30, and he hasn't been that good.

I think the Packers would do well to get a 3rd for him.

Yep and any team trading for him is looking at the contracts given out to these NTs knowing they're gonna have to pay him a lot.

This is why I think even with Wyatt we need to draft another DT with one of our top three picks.

[Ron Swanson]

Easily...there is no way we get a future first for him, let alone a second and a future first.

Why not?

2024 is the final year of his contract, he's almost 30, and he hasn't been that good.

I think the Packers would do well to get a 3rd for him.

To be clear, he turns 29 in October. Bears just gave up a high 2nd-round pick for Montez Sweat in the final year of his contract and promptly signed him to a big extension, so you'd be looking at a similar situation for whomever trades for him. That proposed deal is probably too good to be true, but I think you guys are massively underrating the market for a still 28-year old, perennial Pro-Bowl defensive tackle.

[ReasonablySober]

Why not?

2024 is the final year of his contract, he's almost 30, and he hasn't been that good.

I think the Packers would do well to get a 3rd for him.

To be clear, he turns 29 in October. Bears just gave up the 33rd pick for Montez Sweat in the final year of his contract and promptly signed him to a big extension, so you'd be looking at a similar situation for whomever trades for him. That proposed deal is probably too good to be true, but I think you guys are massively underrating the market for a still 28-year old, perennial Pro-Bowl defensive tackle.

Yea, if Sweat got a 2nd I think a 3rd for Kenny is probably right.