Around the NFL Week 11

[Kerb Hohl]

Bills won last night.

[Kerb Hohl]

Also, come join this fun argument:

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=156&t=1205035&p=33661961#p33661961

I have a guy at work convinced that Cutler is not a top 16 qb. It's insane. The Cutler hate is hilarious.

That guy should immediately apply at ESPN. He may have what it takes.

(NOTE: These are not in any particular order in the classes)

For sure:
1. Brady
2. Brees
3. Rodgers
4. Peyton
5. Eli
6. Ryan
7. Big Ben

Maybe?:
8. RGIII
9. Romo
10. Vick
11. Freeman
12. Rivers
13. Schaub
14. Freeman
15. Flacco
16. Stafford

Probably not but in consideration:
17. Fitzpatrick
18. Cam with his head out of his ass
19. Luck by next season
20. Dalton
21. Palmer
22. Alex Smith


I'm not arguing every single one of those guys, but it's feasible that he's not. I agree with another poster that he has some top 5 talents.

QB rating is not a perfect stat, but find where one of those guys has not finished above Cutler for the majority of their career or are starting to show signs that they are better at it.

[Newz]

Bills won last night.

Your boy Fitzpatrick getting W's!

[Flames24Rulz]

Bears fans treat Cutler as if he's one of the premiere QB's in the league. I was in a discussion earlier this week about where Cutler ranks in the league, and I also looked at QB ratings to see where I'd have him. 16th is about right.

Most Bears fans believe he's a top 10 QB, which simply isn't true. He's been extremely mediocre this year.

[whatthe_buck!?]

!!Unpopular opinion alert!! I think I'm gonna be leaning towards wanting the Bears to beat the niners on Monday night. I know it sounds crazy, especially since I have a fairly significant amount of $ on the packers winning the division, but ive thought about it a lot this week and I'm so confident that the bears are going to lose at least two more games this season aside from what happens Monday night that I believe the outcome that will best serve to improve the packers chances of getting a first round bye will be the bears beating the niners. I've said before that I don't care about winning the division if a first round bye doesn't accompany it, and since i truly believe I will win my bet anyway even if the bears win this week I feel like it would be selfish of me to root against what is best for the packers postseason positioning just to cushion the margin that the packers win the division by for the sake of my own comfort. The problem is that the niners have IMO a fairly easy schedule the rest of the way and have to have at least one more loss than the packers in the remaining 7 games for the packers to beat them out for a higher playoff seed, and because although I think the bears are overrated I also think they are the best team remaining on the niners schedule and I'm afraid that if the niners beat the bears they probably only lose one more game the rest of the way at most (if they don't win out) which would make it almost impossible for the packers to beat them out for playoff seeding. This in turn would mean that the packers only hope for a bye would be to overtake the falcons in the standings, and although the falcons second-half schedule is much more difficult than what it's been to this point in the season, their two game lead over the packers in the standings makes the scenario of the packers overtaking them pretty unlikely. If the bears succeed in beating the niners Monday night it actually sets the packers up to control their own destiny regarding a playoff bye, win out and it's theirs, but if the bears lose I feel like overtaking the niners drops to a probability in the same range as the probability that the packers overtake the falcons, and even then the packers winning the division (which, as I've stated previously, I don't think helps us win an owl at all if we dont get the playoff bye as well) would still come down to beating the bears at soldier field on dec 16 just the same as if they LOSE against the niners.
Edit: I meant to say 'lose against the niners'...

[whatthe_buck!?]

Oh yeah and I almost forgot to add that another benefit of the bears stealing a win from the niners in San Fran: it will open up better opportunities to bet against the bears later in the season. Bears fans are big line movers in vegas and a victory over the niners will make them so overconfident in any game the rest of the way that the line in the packer game will be probably be pushed like a couple extra points in the bears direction... *rubs hands together evilly*

[th87]

Eh, would rather not have a bye week if we're hot at the end of the season. And may even prefer warmer weather playoff games.

[whatthe_buck!?]

Eh, would rather not have a bye week if we're hot at the end of the season. And may even prefer warmer weather playoff games.

Yeah dude, you know what of course you're right, I would much rather have three opportunities to lose a game and get knocked out of the playoffs and three 60 minute opportunities to have our players get severely injured before we make the superbowl instead of just the two we would have if we secured a bye. In the last few years the giants (twice), the packers, and the steelers have all won the super bowl without first round byes and so it is now clear that it is statistically more probable to win a super bowl without a bye than with one. Its the same reason that if u go play roulette at a casino and u see 36 come back to back u then bet ur life savings on 36 coming again because it has become clear that 36 is now more likely to come than any other number. Thank u for correcting my misconceptions with such compelling statistical evidence....

[Scoops]

Matty Ice has three picks.

[jakecronus8]

4

[BUCKnation]

Texans/Jags score

[Marley2Hendrix]

4

5

[UWM_Brew_Buck]

I thought NE vs IND was the featured game. Why are they showing us SD vs DEN?

[WiscSports1]

No guy in the universe should be MVP if he throws 5 INT's in a game.

[Kerb Hohl]

Dick Stockton and Chris Myers are pretty much the worst play-by-play guys ever.

Chris Myers today calling "Panthers win!" as Dallas Clark caught the winner for the Bucs was great.

[Kerb Hohl]

As much as I've ripped Fitzpatrick, I think next week's game is for a playoff spot in the AFC with Buffalo against Indy. Indy wins, it will be hard for them to choke it away. Indy loses and Buffalo rolls with a relatively easy schedule down the stretch.

[Newz]

Rightwich... amirite?

[jerrod]

nice strip

[RiotPunch]

nice strip

[ReasonablySober]

Gronk with a broken forearm. It came on the XP, the 59th point for New England today.