Rounds 2-3 Discussion

Turk Nowitzki · Post #301 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:55 am

Wait, two Utah St. LB's just went in a row? That is weird.

xTitan · Post #302 » by **xTitan** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:56 am

WTF!?

bizarro · Post #303 » by **bizarro** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:56 am

Tony Pauline has been high on this guy for some time:

Height: 6-5
Weight: 246
40: 4.63
Year: 5Sr
Kyler Fackrell
School: Utah State
Position: OLB

Positive: Three-year starter awarded all-Conference honors since his freshman season. Totals last year included 82 tackles, 15 tackles for loss and 4 sacks. Played in one game during his junior season before being sidelined with a knee injury. Intercepted 3 passes as a freshman. Large, athletic linebacker best in a 34 alignment. Forceful up the field, defeats blocks and consistently making plays behind the line scrimmage. Breaks down well, uses his hands to protect himself and flows to the action laterally. Remains disciplined with assignments, stays with the action and covers a decent amount of area in space. Competes hard, rarely off his feet and displays solid lateral movement skills. Effectively reads or diagnoses the action and keeps the play in front of him.
Negative: More of a long strider with built-up speed. Struggles getting off blocks and rushing the edge. Does not possess a closing burst. Must improve his upper body strength.
Analysis: Fackrell was a consistent performer on the college level who had his career briefly interrupted by injury in 2014. He possesses the size, growth potential, athleticism and wherewithal to be a starting outside linebacker in a 34 alignment on Sunday.

BigDee · Post #304 » by **BigDee** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:57 am

bizarro · Post #305 » by **bizarro** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 2:58 am

I still think we have an opportunity to draft Schobert in the 4th if need be. But, again, Fackrell is a baller. He is a very very good player with all the measureables to step in rotationally at OLB.

bizarro · Post #306 » by **bizarro** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:00 am

From the NFL.com write-up:

BOTTOM LINE: When it comes to the length and athleticism teams will look for off the edge, Fackrell will be one of the poster boys. His field versatility, coverage talent and potential as a pass rusher could make him one of the fastest rising prospects in this draft and a future contender for a Pro Bowl nod.

Profound23 · Post #307 » by **Profound23** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:04 am

6-5 Fackrell, 6-3 Clay, Jake Ryan 6-3 and 6-7 Peppers....that is some height

Still wanted an ILB

BUCKnation · Post #308 » by **BUCKnation** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:05 am

Wow, Brissett. Forgot about that guy, almost went to Wisconsin

xTitan · Post #309 » by **xTitan** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:07 am

Profound23 wrote:6-5 Fackrell, 6-3 Clay, Jake Ryan 6-3 and 6-7 Peppers....that is some height

Still wanted an ILB

I'd rather keep Clay on the inside to be honest, he is better there

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #310 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:07 am

Why do they have current players announce in the third round? We could have easily drafted barringtons replacement there. At least in the sixth round you think the guy is s stiff and easily beat him out.

RiotPunch · Post #311 » by **RiotPunch** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:09 am

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Why do they have current players announce in the third round? We could have easily drafted barringtons replacement there. At least in the sixth round you think the guy is s stiff and easily beat him out.

Barrington reels in sharks, he's not getting replaced anytime soon!

bizarro · Post #312 » by **bizarro** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:15 am

xTitan wrote:
Profound23 wrote:6-5 Fackrell, 6-3 Clay, Jake Ryan 6-3 and 6-7 Peppers....that is some height

Still wanted an ILB

I'd rather keep Clay on the inside to be honest, he is better there

I completely agree. He's a legit pro bow prospect inside. And, honestly, I'm just not that intrigued by Barrington as anything but a back-up.

Turk Nowitzki · Post #313 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:15 am

Billings will be available on Day 3.

Wow.

RiotPunch · Post #314 » by **RiotPunch** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:34 am

Must be some serious medical red for Billings. He was top 15 on my board heading into last night.

RiotPunch · Post #315 » by **RiotPunch** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:35 am

We bolstered the trenches and pass rushing. Hard to complain. Still might have our ILB fall into our laps tomorrow.

HKPackFan · Post #316 » by **HKPackFan** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:58 am

RiotPunch wrote:Must be some serious medical red for Billings. He was top 15 on my board heading into last night.

I'm not following what happened to take him from a 1st round pick to a 4th rounder.

Post #317 » by **ReasonablySober** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:47 am

HKPackFan wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:Must be some serious medical red for Billings. He was top 15 on my board heading into last night.

I'm not following what happened to take him from a 1st round pick to a 4th rounder.

Easiest explanation is NFL teams simply don't think he's that good.

bizarro · Post #318 » by **bizarro** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:01 am

ReasonablySober wrote:
HKPackFan wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:Must be some serious medical red for Billings. He was top 15 on my board heading into last night.

I'm not following what happened to take him from a 1st round pick to a 4th rounder.

Easiest explanation is NFL teams simply don't think he's that good.

Right. To add more detail to this, I think it's clear he is seen in a limited NFL role. He lacks pass rush and versatility, he is rather short, and other than his strength he doesn't have much burst. Essentially, from what I've seen he is limited to a 1-Technique position in a 4-3. I imagine most teams see him as a rotational 1-Technique limited to 4-3's.

Post #319 » by **ReasonablySober** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:08 am

NFL teams screw up every year, and lately they've been screwing up with regards to shorter defensive tackles. Atkins and Daniels are the obvious examples. Maybe Billings is the next Atkins, an undersized guy with ridiculous strength who ends up dominating. I don't know enough about scouting 300 lb defensive tackles to have a clue, but I thought that Stephen White (former NFL defensive lineman) piece to be really interesting.

bizarro · Post #320 » by **bizarro** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:24 am

ReasonablySober wrote:NFL teams screw up every year, and lately they've been screwing up with regards to shorter defensive tackles. Atkins and Daniels are the obvious examples. Maybe Billings is the next Atkins, an undersized guy with ridiculous strength who ends up dominating. I don't know enough about scouting 300 lb defensive tackles to have a clue, but I thought that Stephen White (former NFL defensive lineman) piece to be really interesting.

Where is this piece?

I mean, the interesting thing with Billings is he is slightly taller and has more bulk than Daniels did as a draft pick. He has an inch in height and a 1/2 inch in reach. So, I really don't know what to make of his fall. It's quite remarkable. AND, where is this article? Did you already post it?