25. Green Bay Packers
Reid's pick that fills a big need: Cooper DeJean, CB/S, Iowa
DeJean makes too much sense for Green Bay, as he has the versatility to play multiple spots in the secondary. The Packers allowed 7.3 yards per pass attempt last season, 20th in the NFL. DeJean's physicality would be welcomed.
Miller's pick that gets best value: Amarius Mims, OT, Georgia
Mims started only eight games in college, but I'd argue those eight games are as good as any other tackle in the class could put together from multiple years of starting. With his final ranking of No. 24 overall on my board, the Packers can get even value on the right tackle.
2024 NFL Draft - five picks in the first three rounds (seven in four! [probably])
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Mocks are dime a dozen but I look at them anyway.
I'm against picketing but I don't know how to show it.
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It's a really good and underrated point. You can see it in the number of underclassmen who declared. HUGE decline from past seasons.
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ReasonablySober wrote:Chad Reuter on NFL.com did a seven rounder.
Had the Packers dropping down from #25 and picking up SF's 3rd. I love the move, not a fan of the pick.
#31 - Roger Rosengarten - OT (over Mims FFS)
#41 - Trevin Wallace - LB (over Cooper and Wilson, yuck)
#58 - Javon Bullard - S
#88 - Brandon Dorlus - DT
#91 - Nehemiah Pritchett - CB
#94 - Christian Hayes - OG
#126 - Myles Cole - Edge
#169 - Ray Davis - RB
#202 - Jha'Quan Jackson - WR
#219 - Tory Taylor - P
#245 - Drake Nugent - S
#255 - Kedon Slovis - QB
I really, really hate this draft.
Gross. Ray Davis at 169 is the only pick I like here
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ReasonablySober wrote:Chad Reuter on NFL.com did a seven rounder.
Had the Packers dropping down from #25 and picking up SF's 3rd. I love the move, not a fan of the pick.
#31 - Roger Rosengarten - OT (over Mims FFS)
#41 - Trevin Wallace - LB (over Cooper and Wilson, yuck)
#58 - Javon Bullard - S
#88 - Brandon Dorlus - DT
#91 - Nehemiah Pritchett - CB
#94 - Christian Hayes - OG
#126 - Myles Cole - Edge
#169 - Ray Davis - RB
#202 - Jha'Quan Jackson - WR
#219 - Tory Taylor - P
#245 - Drake Nugent - S
#255 - Kedon Slovis - QB
I really, really hate this draft.
Me too. And FYI, you have a typo -- Nugent is a Center (unless there's another one floating around).
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Not my favorite mock, but not the worst I've seen. Rosengarten, Wallace, Bullard and Hayes I like quite a bit, but i'd have to take a closer look at what Reuter had available during each of our picks. The rest is meh.
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As someone who loves the draft and analyzing prospects this is spot on
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I'm somehow extremely confident I know more than everyone but at the same time acknowledge that I'm almost always wrong and you can't listen to a thing I say. Just know that I'm confident in how wrong I usually am.
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Frank Nova wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:Chad Reuter on NFL.com did a seven rounder.
Had the Packers dropping down from #25 and picking up SF's 3rd. I love the move, not a fan of the pick.
#31 - Roger Rosengarten - OT (over Mims FFS)
#41 - Trevin Wallace - LB (over Cooper and Wilson, yuck)
#58 - Javon Bullard - S
#88 - Brandon Dorlus - DT
#91 - Nehemiah Pritchett - CB
#94 - Christian Hayes - OG
#126 - Myles Cole - Edge
#169 - Ray Davis - RB
#202 - Jha'Quan Jackson - WR
#219 - Tory Taylor - P
#245 - Drake Nugent - S
#255 - Kedon Slovis - QB
I really, really hate this draft.
Gross. Ray Davis at 169 is the only pick I like here
And he’s not even 2 years younger than Jacobs and Dillon
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Reddeye wrote:
This is dumb. Yes, this year's class will have less underclassmen. But due to college eligibility rules around the Covid years there will be more 5th and 6th year players than ever.
In the future players will be more experienced and older when they enter the draft. Less experienced but potentially more talented players will wait another year. So what, the same players will still be drafted so the overall quality of the draft won't change.
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ReasonablySober wrote:I'm somehow extremely confident I know more than everyone but at the same time acknowledge that I'm almost always wrong and you can't listen to a thing I say. Just know that I'm confident in how wrong I usually am.
Yeah I spend to much time on this ****, I could probably name 50-55 players that would be the top 48 players taken in a Dynasty Superflex Rookie Draft off the top of my head and get all of them but may be a TE. I’ve done like 5 mocks on sleeper every night for 3 months and I don’t even have landing spots yet…. I need a life, lol. But the nfl draft, yeah no one knows ****, the most accurate mockers get under 20% right, even just the 1st round.
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Quick mock on nflmockdraftdatabase
https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/user-mock-drafts/2024/user-mock-2747011
Trade Recap
Green Bay Receives:
2024: Round 1, Pick 19
Los Angeles Receives:
2024: Round 1, Pick 25
2024: Round 3, Pick 91
Green Bay Receives:
2024: Round 2, Pick 44
2024: Round 4, Pick 112
Las Vegas Receives:
2024: Round 2, Pick 41
2024: Round 7, Pick 245
Green Bay Receives:
2024: Round 3, Pick 93
2024: Round 6, Pick 218
Baltimore Receives:
2024: Round 3, Pick 88
My Selections
19
Quinyon Mitchell
CB | Toledo
44
Edgerrin Cooper
LB | Texas A&M
58
Tyler Nubin
S | Minnesota
93
Cole Bishop
S | Utah
112
Austin Booker
EDGE | Kansas
126
Braelon Allen
RB | Wisconsin
169
Jarrian Jones
CB | Florida State
202
Jaheim Bell
TE | Florida State
218
Tory Taylor
P | Iowa
219
Layden Robinson
IOL | Texas A&M
255
Garret Greenfield
OT South Dakota State
https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/user-mock-drafts/2024/user-mock-2747011
Trade Recap
Green Bay Receives:
2024: Round 1, Pick 19
Los Angeles Receives:
2024: Round 1, Pick 25
2024: Round 3, Pick 91
Green Bay Receives:
2024: Round 2, Pick 44
2024: Round 4, Pick 112
Las Vegas Receives:
2024: Round 2, Pick 41
2024: Round 7, Pick 245
Green Bay Receives:
2024: Round 3, Pick 93
2024: Round 6, Pick 218
Baltimore Receives:
2024: Round 3, Pick 88
My Selections
19
Quinyon Mitchell
CB | Toledo
44
Edgerrin Cooper
LB | Texas A&M
58
Tyler Nubin
S | Minnesota
93
Cole Bishop
S | Utah
112
Austin Booker
EDGE | Kansas
126
Braelon Allen
RB | Wisconsin
169
Jarrian Jones
CB | Florida State
202
Jaheim Bell
TE | Florida State
218
Tory Taylor
P | Iowa
219
Layden Robinson
IOL | Texas A&M
255
Garret Greenfield
OT South Dakota State
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Any draft you come away with Mitchell is good with me.
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Was exploring tradeups and ended up with Terrion Arnold at 17, Patrick Paul at 55, and Jerimiah Trotter Jr at 88. Picked up a future 3rd as well.
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stillgotgame wrote:Reddeye wrote:Spoiler:
This is dumb. Yes, this year's class will have less underclassmen. But due to college eligibility rules around the Covid years there will be more 5th and 6th year players than ever.
In the future players will be more experienced and older when they enter the draft. Less experienced but potentially more talented players will wait another year. So what, the same players will still be drafted so the overall quality of the draft won't change.
In the long term, yes, it will even out. But it could create a couple down years followed by a couple bumper years. At first, the loss of draft talent due to higher NIL retention in college would not be compensated for by prior cohorts of NFL-worthy underclassmen who stayed in college, because NIL was not around to keep them in college at the time. Those drafts are likely to have a little less talent. However, as you said, the first couple cohorts of talented NIL players who stayed in school will hit the draft at roughly the same time, along with the usual groups of talent that would have been in that draft anyway because they weren't good enough to be drafted until their senior year. It will just reconfigure a few drafts before it starts to average out again.
The difference in age and how long you have healthy players with low wear-and-tear in their physical prime is a different issue if you're consistently drafting older players. It's not a lack of talent per se, and some teams might even see it as a good thing if more prospects are old enough to play right away, but it will change the calculus on a player's first non-rookie contract, and players might even eventually determine that it's better to get in the NFL as soon as possible just for a better second contract, even if the rookie deal doesn't beat NIL money.
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Now I’ve seen this punter Tory Taylor from Iowa on a couple mocks here. Which I don’t get. Whelan wasn’t bad in his first year and will most likely improve. Then to use a pick for a guy in Tory Taylor. That has similar career stats (avg.and long) in college as Whelan’s year. That doesn’t improve the team really even if it’s for competition and Tory beats out Whelan in a training camp battle. Now if it’s an UDFA or any cheap FA I’m all for the competition. I just don’t see using a pick on non-improvement or for a guy with such similar stats and no real record of being better. Whelan’s inside the 20 percentage is so much better too. Of which Whelan had more last year (18) than Taylor’s all 4 years at Iowa(9). There's a huge difference in amount of punts then too get 18 & 9, 57 & 295. Career inside the 20% then 31.58 & 3.05.
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Giannisland34 wrote:Now I’ve seen this punter Tory Taylor from Iowa on a couple mocks here. Which I don’t get. Whelan wasn’t bad in his first year and will most likely improve. Then to use a pick for a guy in Tory Taylor. That has similar career stats (avg.and long) in college as Whelan’s year. That doesn’t improve the team really even if it’s for competition and Tory beats out Whelan in a training camp battle. Now if it’s an UDFA or any cheap FA I’m all for the competition. I just don’t see using a pick on non-improvement or for a guy with such similar stats and no real record of being better. Whelan’s inside the 20 percentage is so much better too. Of which Whelan had more last year (18) than Taylor’s all 4 years at Iowa(9). There's a huge difference in amount of punts then too get 18 & 9, 57 & 295. Career inside the 20% then 31.58 & 3.05.
Also, Whelan was the holder for PAT and FG attempts. To my knowledge, he was never considered part of the problem on Carlson's missed kicks. That's a skill too.
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TroyD92 wrote:Was exploring tradeups and ended up with Terrion Arnold at 17, Patrick Paul at 55, and Jerimiah Trotter Jr at 88. Picked up a future 3rd as well.
Honest question, is trading up for Arnold that much better than sitting at 25 and taking Kool-Aid? Is there a world we can live in that Kool Aid turns into the better pro CB? Just interested in your thoughts there, I’m on the fence.
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Matches Malone wrote:The draft really needs to move up a couple weeks.
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