Game 3: Saints at Packers - Noon - Fox

MVP2110 · Post #541 » by **MVP2110** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 12:07 pm

Karl Brooks outsnapping Wyatt & Slaton isn't something I predicted. Granted all 3 were very similar in count but it seems at minimum Brooks has entered the DL rotation with Wyatt & Slaton

Post #542 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 12:45 pm

Snap counts:

Offense - 79 snaps

Myers 79
Runyan 79
Newman 79
Walker 79
Tom 76
Nijman 3

Dillon 41
Taylor 31
Wilson 8
Nixon 1

Musgrave 68
Deguara 17
Kraft 10
Sims 3

Doubs 68
Reed 52
Wicks 52
Toure 33
Heath 1

Defense - 61 Snaps

Clark 51
Brooks 28
Wyatt 27
Slaton 26
Wooden 10

Walker 61
P. Smith 43
McDuffie 37
Enagbare 23
Gary 23
Hollins 20
Van Ness 12
Campbell 11
Wilson 8
Cox 1

Savage 61
Ford 61
Douglas 61
Nixon 45
Valentine 32
Ballentine 30

Ron Swanson · Post #543 » by **Ron Swanson** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 12:54 pm

Only real concern on offense outside of injuries is that Deguara and Kraft continue to be absolutely invisible out there. If a RB acquisition isn't in the cards, then TE depth is the area that needs to be addressed mid-season.

JimmyTheKid · Post #544 » by **JimmyTheKid** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 1:14 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:As the Love debate resumes this week I don't know how anyone who watched the game wouldn't be optimistic. Plenty to work on of course but plenty of talent and poise already.

#TeamLove

Will happily admit I was wrong about criticizing the thought process behind drafting a 1st round QB when they did. As mentioned numerous times, it had nothing to do with Jordan Love, and everything to do with the position and timeline. I couldn't be more impressed with this young man. Plenty to improve on but he just has "it." Gutey was right. I was wrong. The future is bright. Go Pack go!

jimmybones · Post #545 » by **jimmybones** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 1:30 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Snap counts:

Offense - 79 snaps

Doubs 68
Reed 52
Wicks 52
Toure 33
Heath 1

Obviously your two best OL and your best RB and best playmaker are most important to come back.

But replace all of Toure's and some of Wicks's snaps with MF Christian Watson and that is such an exciting core of youngster pass catchers (Musgrave too).

jute2003 · Post #546 » by **jute2003** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 1:30 pm

Dillon is disappointing. I like the dude but he just doesn't have it. Since he isn't a power back, it would seem the quadzilla thing is prolly doing more harm than good. He's got no burst.

LUKE23 · Post #547 » by **LUKE23** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 1:41 pm

Musgrave should have at least three walk in TDs already. He is going to be such a weapon.

neiLz · Post #548 » by **neiLz** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:51 pm

Just want to see this team at full strength. Jones looked to be moving well in warm-ups, hopefully he can play thursday. Love has struggled with the deep ball but watson might be able to unlock much easier deep ball opportunities.

M-C-G · Post #549 » by **M-C-G** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:20 pm

JimmyTheKid wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:As the Love debate resumes this week I don't know how anyone who watched the game wouldn't be optimistic. Plenty to work on of course but plenty of talent and poise already.

#TeamLove

Will happily admit I was wrong about criticizing the thought process behind drafting a 1st round QB when they did. As mentioned numerous times, it had nothing to do with Jordan Love, and everything to do with the position and timeline. I couldn't be more impressed with this young man. Plenty to improve on but he just has "it." Gutey was right. I was wrong. The future is bright. Go Pack go!

Nice. One Love, welcome to the squad

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M-C-G · Post #550 » by **M-C-G** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:22 pm

jute2003 wrote:Dillon is disappointing. I like the dude but he just doesn't have it. Since he isn't a power back, it would seem the quadzilla thing is prolly doing more harm than good. He's got no burst.

I’ve been one of the biggest Dillon fans in real life but yesterday broke me. Just doesn’t have it

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Post #551 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:22 pm

I can't decide now if I'm pleasantly surprised at all the snaps and throws that Wicks has gotten, or I'm worried that he's been forced into a more prominent role.

MVP2110 · Post #552 » by **MVP2110** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:31 pm

M-C-G wrote:
jute2003 wrote:Dillon is disappointing. I like the dude but he just doesn't have it. Since he isn't a power back, it would seem the quadzilla thing is prolly doing more harm than good. He's got no burst.

I’ve been one of the biggest Dillon fans in real life but yesterday broke me. Just doesn’t have it

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I'm waiting to see yet if its Dillon is bad or if Jones is great. Through the 1st 3 games non Jones or Dillon backs have gotten very few carries so it's hard to tell but the only RB production we got at all has basically been Aaron Jones tearing up a bad Bears defense. If he plays this week how does he do against a much better Lions run d? Dillon hasn't been good but I'm not sold we have a better alternative basically.

MVP2110 · Post #553 » by **MVP2110** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:33 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:I can't decide now if I'm pleasantly surprised at all the snaps and throws that Wicks has gotten, or I'm worried that he's been forced into a more prominent role.

This seems like the answer to me is both. He's definitely been forced into a bigger than expected role because of the injury to Watson but he's also looked fairly decent. He's young and it shows but he also flashes some really nice things out there too

Post #554 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:35 pm

Dillon loves Green Bay, lives there year round, does a lot for the community, it's a shame he won't be around after this year. But I can't imagine he will be.

RB will be interesting next year. Jones (who will be 30) has a cap hit of $17.7 million and a dead cap hit of $12.3 million if cut. If he stays healthy the rest of this year they might bring him back on a short term reworked deal. He won't be back for a $17.7 million cap hit.

skones · Post #555 » by **skones** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:41 pm

It's pretty **** crazy Gary only played 23 snaps yesterday.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #556 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:42 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Dillon loves Green Bay, lives there year round, does a lot for the community, it's a shame he won't be around after this year. But I can't imagine he will be.

RB will be interesting next year. Jones (who will be 30) has a cap hit of $17.7 million and a dead cap hit of $12.3 million if cut. If he stays healthy the rest of this year they might bring him back on a short term reworked deal. He won't be back for a $17.7 million cap hit.

The way it's going Dillon will probably be around GB next year just not as an NFL player. He should open a bar up in Door county or something.

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Ron Swanson · Post #557 » by **Ron Swanson** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:44 pm

Need to find a way to bring in another all-purpose guy even if you restructure Jones. I still like the idea of James Conner for like a conditional 6th-round pick, but that doesn't really address the future of the position. The run-blocking hasn't been great, and I like Taylor and Wilson, but they're just guys.

Treebeard · Post #558 » by **Treebeard** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:45 pm

I agree that Dillon has no burst/lost his burst. If the line opens a hole between the tackles, he can build speed and bulldoze going straight forward, but east-west set up plays are doomed because of that lack of starting speed.

Too bad, as he certainly seems to be a great guy.

MVP2110 · Post #559 » by **MVP2110** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:49 pm

I fully expect us to draft a RB in the mid rounds this next draft and probably sign a cheap FA or maybe a Jones restructure again.

jimmybones · Post #560 » by **jimmybones** » Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:57 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:I can't decide now if I'm pleasantly surprised at all the snaps and throws that Wicks has gotten, or I'm worried that he's been forced into a more prominent role.

He's playing out of need but long term, that's a pretty talented guy to have as your 4th WR in my eyes.

I am curious about Kraft at TE as well, if Musgrave is what we think he is and Kraft is a good second TE, man, that's a deep group of pass catcher weapons to go forward with.