Game 13: Packers at Giants - 12/11/23 - 7:15 - ABC

HKPackFan · Post #581 » by **HKPackFan** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:17 pm

Joe Barry job security it's like the cockroach survival gene.

Ron Swanson · Post #582 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:37 pm

Don't need to watch the All-22, just watch the youtube highlight video.

- Rush 4 - soft zone
- Rush 4 - soft zone
- Rush 5 (delayed blitzer) - man coverage

Like, what in the actual hell kind of coverage is this given the situation here?

Post #583 » by **MickeyDavis** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:57 pm

Snap Counts. Van Ness continues to get few snaps. Maybe he doesn't deserve them, I don't know.

Offense 68 snaps

Myers 68
Tom 68
Jenkins 68
Runyan 56
Walker 51
Nijman 17
Rhyan 12

Dillon 36
Taylor 32

Kraft 68
Sims 10
Deguara 7

Doubs 56
Reed 47 69
Wicks 43
Heath 23
Toure 18

Defense 56 snaps

Clark 47
Slaton 34
Wyatt 29
Brooks 24
Wooden 7

Campbell 56
McDuffie 40
Smith 39
Gary 39
Enagbare 20
Van Ness 14
Wilson 1

Owens 56
Valentine 55
Ballentine 55
Savage 53
Nixon 44
Ford 3

Treebeard · Post #584 » by **Treebeard** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 7:06 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Snap Counts. Van Ness continues to get few snaps. Maybe he doesn't deserve them, I don't know.

Defense 56 snaps

Van Ness 14

Ford 3

I watched the game on TV, but listened on the radio (radio is a few seconds ahead of the TV...)

Both McCarren and Larrivee commented that Van Ness plays better as a down lineman at this point. He also got the closest to a sack that I saw.

Interesting on Ford dropping down in the rotation. He was on ST's though. He made the fumble recovery on the punt.

M-C-G · Post #585 » by **M-C-G** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 7:17 pm

This game stunk. Love stunk. Defense stunk, reminded me of when we played against Hienecke and Huntley. QBs couldn’t win with their arm but we didn’t try to stop them from running enough.

I’ll chalk it up to a young team that thought they could just show up and win after a couple great wins.

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Post #586 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 7:32 pm

Treebeard wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Snap Counts. Van Ness continues to get few snaps. Maybe he doesn't deserve them, I don't know.

Defense 56 snaps

Van Ness 14

Ford 3

I watched the game on TV, but listened on the radio (radio is a few seconds ahead of the TV...)

Both McCarren and Larrivee commented that Van Ness plays better as a down lineman at this point. He also got the closest to a sack that I saw.

Interesting on Ford dropping down in the rotation. He was on ST's though. He made the fumble recovery on the punt.

For sure. He doesn't look like a standup EDGE rusher. I'd have no problem dipping into that position early in the draft.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #587 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 7:47 pm

I know with how much nickel gets played these days the whole 3/4 4/3 thing is bit outdated but it sure feels like the Packers personel is more suited to a 4/3

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tski1972 · Post #588 » by **tski1972** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 7:51 pm

Team felt way too good about themselves after the two big wins, plain and simple.

MVP2110 · Post #589 » by **MVP2110** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 8:25 pm

I haven't rewatched the whole game yet but based on some tweets I saw I went back and rewatched the failed 2 pt conversion. Man Heath & Jenkins fail so hard on their blocks there. If they executes their blocks I think Reed gets in despite a predictable play call

Finn · Post #590 » by **Finn** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 8:31 pm

If you rewatch that entire game (I don't know how anyone could), hide the guns & knives first.

rilamann · Post #591 » by **rilamann** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 8:35 pm

Last night was a reminder that you never, under any circumstances, trust a team coached by MLF.

BUCKnation · Post #592 » by **BUCKnation** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 9:38 pm

Agreed that outside of spamming that jet sweep after they had it figured out, MLF's playcalling was fine. The offense was moving the ball pretty well all night outside of the redzone. They mostly just stopped themselves with poor execution.

Love did a good job of turning it around in the 2nd half, but still can't be taking sacks on the edge of fg range.

BUCKnation · Post #593 » by **BUCKnation** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 9:45 pm

MVP2110 wrote:I haven't rewatched the whole game yet but based on some tweets I saw I went back and rewatched the failed 2 pt conversion. Man Heath & Jenkins fail so hard on their blocks there. If they executes their blocks I think Reed gets in despite a predictable play call

As much as I didn't like to run that again, it did look good initially. It definitely shouldn't have gotten as stuffed as badly as it did.

Jenkins just didn't get anything on the LB who ended up stonewalling Reed. That was the key miss.

MVP2110 · Post #594 » by **MVP2110** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 9:59 pm

BUCKnation wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:I haven't rewatched the whole game yet but based on some tweets I saw I went back and rewatched the failed 2 pt conversion. Man Heath & Jenkins fail so hard on their blocks there. If they executes their blocks I think Reed gets in despite a predictable play call

As much as I didn't like to run that again, it did look good initially. It definitely shouldn't have gotten as stuffed as badly as it did.

Jenkins just didn't get anything on the LB who ended up stonewalling Reed. That was the key miss.

Yep Jenkins completely whiffed too

thomchatt3rton · Post #595 » by **thomchatt3rton** » Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:03 pm

Welp. I guess “Young team loses close game on the road it should have won” isn’t exactly breaking news in the grand scheme of things.

Still sucks as I’ve really gotten my playoff hopes up.

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Matches Malone · Post #596 » by **Matches Malone** » Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:45 pm

Joe Barry Masterclass

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UWM_Brew_Buck · Post #597 » by **UWM_Brew_Buck** » Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:39 pm

If this game doesn’t get Joe Barry “fired” nothing will. I’ve been bullish on MLF but if he can’t play figure out he keeps JB his days should be numbered.

skones · Post #598 » by **skones** » Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:42 pm

I think there's something there with MLF and his playcalling even if it's inconsistent. But man, does he make some baffling decisions when it comes to game situations and clock. With that being said, if you're hitching your wagon to Barry like he has, ya gotta go.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #599 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:04 pm

skones wrote:I think there's something there with MLF and his playcalling even if it's inconsistent. But man, does he make some baffling decisions when it comes to game situations and clock. With that being said, if you're hitching your wagon to Barry like he has, ya gotta go.

I'm not a fire MLF guy but he really needs to just start over with his whole approach to situational football. Short yardage, 2min, 4 min, ect are all in need of a overhaul.

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skones · Post #600 » by **skones** » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:57 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
skones wrote:I think there's something there with MLF and his playcalling even if it's inconsistent. But man, does he make some baffling decisions when it comes to game situations and clock. With that being said, if you're hitching your wagon to Barry like he has, ya gotta go.
I'm not a fire MLF guy but he really needs to just start over with his whole approach to situational football. Short yardage, 2min, 4 min, ect are all in need of a overhaul.

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I suppose I'm of the opinion that if these things were to be overhauled, they would have happened already. We're how many years removed from the Tampa playoff game and that decision, ya know?