Game 15: Packers at Panthers - 12/24/23 - Noon - Fox

Profound23 · Post #221 » by **Profound23** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:11 pm

This team is so annoying.

Thielen blew it

Post #222 » by **ReasonablySober** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:11 pm

That right there might be the difference between a meaningless Packers win and Chicago getting Caleb Williams for 15 years.

Matches Malone · Post #223 » by **Matches Malone** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:11 pm

Swan Vox · Post #224 » by **Swan Vox** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:12 pm

Garbage win. Remember this when they get their ass handed to them by Minnesota, miss the playoffs and F up their draft pick.

Oh yeah and may have gifted Chicago Caleb.

Profound23 · Post #225 » by **Profound23** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:15 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:That right there might be the difference between a meaningless Packers win and Chicago getting Caleb Williams for 15 years.

Yep, anyone happy about this, I just don't get it.

Bears keep the 1st pick, we move out of the top 10 of the draft. We needed this loss.

TroyD92 · Post #226 » by **TroyD92** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:15 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Joe Barry the QB Whisperer.

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I called this

ampd · Post #227 » by **ampd** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:16 pm

3 highest paid players are all defenders and all 3 of them were invisible again

coolhandluke121 · Post #228 » by **coolhandluke121** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:17 pm

I usually find it really hard to root for losses and that's for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that having young guys play well and win gives me just as much optimism as higher picks. But I was surprised to find myself truly hoping for a loss here, mainly because of yet another subpar QB having a really good game against the Packers defense.

Mags FTW · Post #229 » by **Mags FTW** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:19 pm

Sometimes when you win, you lose.

MVP2110 · Post #230 » by **MVP2110** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:25 pm

That was basically the ideal Packer game. Offense looked good and we're one step closer to moving on from Joe Barry, I'll gladly take this result

Mags FTW · Post #231 » by **Mags FTW** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:28 pm

Jefferson is going for at least 200 next week.

FAH1223 · Post #232 » by **FAH1223** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:35 pm

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MVP2110 · Post #233 » by **MVP2110** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 9:37 pm

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Two things I'm very confident in, Jordan Love is the future, Joe Barry is not.

ReginaldDwight · Post #234 » by **ReginaldDwight** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:18 pm

Tanking isnt a thing in the nfl, so im not mad at anyone but Joe Berry. More important you pick the right players.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #235 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:18 pm

MoreTrife wrote:I mean there are 8 first round picks or so. Either we blew 8 first round picks or we have a terrible defensive coordinator. A guy who has a previous terrible track record. I know what's more likely.

I think it's both

Barry's awful but he's not out there personally missing tackles, losing his gap assignment, looking lost when the ball is in the air, getting washed up in blockers, ect. There's plenty of bad play that's obvious along with Barry's soft zone bull scheme.

They need more football instincts on that side of the ball. It's sorely lacking with this group.

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skones · Post #236 » by **skones** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:32 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
MoreTrife wrote:I mean there are 8 first round picks or so. Either we blew 8 first round picks or we have a terrible defensive coordinator. A guy who has a previous terrible track record. I know what's more likely.
I think it's both

Barry's awful but he's not out there personally missing tackles, losing his gap assignment, looking lost when the ball is in the air, getting washed up in blockers, ect. There's plenty of bad play that's obvious along with Barry's soft zone bull scheme.

They need more football instincts on that side of the ball. It's sorely lacking with this group.

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The stuff where they're lining up well off their marks in end of game situations with the freedom to do so or not over the gap on 4th and 1 is certainly down to coaching though. Those type of contextual things are absolutely teachable and a major issue with consistency.

That all falls on Barry even if the guys just not making plays doesn't.

Also worth noting that we're all well aware that Barry is fitting players into his scheme instead of fitting the scheme to his players which could very easily be a HUGE reason why these guys don't make plays. Simplify things so they're playing to their strengths.

LittleRooster · Post #237 » by **LittleRooster** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:50 pm

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Post #238 » by **MickeyDavis** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:51 pm

Barry + personnel + position coaches all at fault. But it starts with Barry.

Profound23 · Post #239 » by **Profound23** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:07 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Barry + personnel + position coaches all at fault. But it starts with Barry.

Don't let the fans off the hook like that

WeekapaugGroove · Post #240 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:10 pm

skones wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
MoreTrife wrote:I mean there are 8 first round picks or so. Either we blew 8 first round picks or we have a terrible defensive coordinator. A guy who has a previous terrible track record. I know what's more likely.
I think it's both

Barry's awful but he's not out there personally missing tackles, losing his gap assignment, looking lost when the ball is in the air, getting washed up in blockers, ect. There's plenty of bad play that's obvious along with Barry's soft zone bull scheme.

They need more football instincts on that side of the ball. It's sorely lacking with this group.

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The stuff where they're lining up well off their marks in end of game situations with the freedom to do so or not over the gap on 4th and 1 is certainly down to coaching though. Those type of contextual things are absolutely teachable and a major issue with consistency.

That all falls on Barry even if the guys just not making plays doesn't.

Also worth noting that we're all well aware that Barry is fitting players into his scheme instead of fitting the scheme to his players which could very easily be a HUGE reason why these guys don't make plays. Simplify things so they're playing to their strengths.

I think they're playing a pretty simple D right now, I actually think that's part of the problem there's little to no confusing the opponent. Teams just line up and pick apart the holes in the zone or run it up their ass. Packs D scheme is basically just praying the opponent **** up or they get a sack on 3rd down. Barry needs to go, no doubt.

But should also be noted they only have 1 player in the entire secondary who should be a regular player on a good D. And Jaires mostly been hurt and inconsistent when he's played.

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