2019 Regular Season

[hermes]

holy cow they did it! all the way back!!!!!

rudolph!

[Jedzz]

If they hadn't have went for the 2 pt play earlier for no reason... Go figure, nobody else here would question them on that choice at all.

[Duke4life831]

Rudolph has been a TD machine as of late.

[Jedzz]

Rudolph has been a TD machine as of late.

Once a game the announcers would ask why he wasn't being used near endzone earlier. Now he's the man every time.

[Jedzz]

This must be a probowl QB Denver is serving up right? Nobody can seem to jump a route or break up a pass.

Zimmer defense. Rock solid.

[Duke4life831]

So is Harrison Smith hurt? He's been out all possession.

[Worm Guts]

If they hadn't have went for the 2 pt play earlier for no reason... Go figure, nobody else here would question them on that choice at all.

It would have made a one score game. It was the right decision

[hermes]

well at least the broncos waste a challenge on pass interference

[hermes]

nail chewing time...

[Jedzz]

If they hadn't have went for the 2 pt play earlier for no reason... Go figure, nobody else here would question them on that choice at all.

It would have made a one score game. It was the right decision

No.

[Jedzz]

This is Zimmer heaven. Loves to force games into nailbiters.

[Jedzz]

Jayron Kearse of jesey whipping fame. Like that huge secondary player. I guess the refs weren't going to call much and let this one end.

[hermes]

holy wow, they did it!

amazing comeback

proud of the team for not giving up and keep fighting

[Jedzz]

Would that maybe contitute a Zimmer adjustment, to see Jayron Kearse on every down of the final drive? If so, there is one thing I'll praise that idiot Zimmer for.

[Worm Guts]

If they hadn't have went for the 2 pt play earlier for no reason... Go figure, nobody else here would question them on that choice at all.

It would have made a one score game. It was the right decision

No.

??? I’m not sure what the argument for not going for it.

[Jedzz]

It would have made a one score game. It was the right decision

No.

??? I’m not sure what the argument for not going for it.

Really? ok then.

Because the score was 23-7 before the touchdown possession in question. The touchdown adds 6 points to make it 23-13 before the decision for a 1 or 2 pt play is made. So right then at that moment the Vikings are behind by 10, two scores, and two scores of a touchdown and field goal would only tie. If the Vikings just simply kick the extra point, they are only down by 9. Which is still two scores, but a touchdown and field goal would then be enough to retake the lead.

Therefore the correct move there is to take the easy single pt and put yourself into a better position at only behind by 9.

You can try and argue that if they get the 2pt play, then they are within 8 and could score one more touchdown and one more 2 pt play. But then you wouldn't be playing to the greater probabilities. Expecting a comeback of this nature is hard enough, tack on the probability of finishing two 100 yard touchdown drives and both with successful 2 pt plays is asking a bit much. You can tell by how the failed the first one. But two scoring drives, one of 100 yards for a touchdown and one of 65 yards for a field goal range on the other score makes the task much easier and would have been enough for the lead. Playing any team over .500 this defense likely gives up more than 3 pts in the second half. So attempting to reach an 8 pt deficit in the future in this scenario is really putting your team behind the 8 ball. It could have easily turned into a requirement for 3 scores just to tie because of what they did.

Far be it from me to question the goofball Childress style decision making still empowering this offense and these choices though. For instead of just playing like Joe Montana and throwing just beyond first down markers while playing catch up, this team loves to throw screens and checkdowns to inch into range of each first down marker. Then at that point, when it's 3rd and 1 or 3rd and 2, the Vikings love to throw probability to the wind and send Diggs to the Endzone 50 yards away. Because in their mind it's easier to throw away from where the defense knows you need to get to. And in their mind they still think the likelihood of that being successful works enough. It has occasionally worked for this team, just not all that much. That's why Joe has multiple superbowl rings and nobody does while being associated with the Vikings. It worked for Zimmer and Diggs today and they got their two touchdowns. You should expect that outcome to differ when they are not playing a 3-6 team.

[Worm Guts]

No.

??? I’m not sure what the argument for not going for it.

Because the score was 23-7 before the touchdown possession in question. The touchdown adds 6 points to make it 23-13 before the decision for a 1 or 2 pt play is made. So right then at that moment the Vikings are behind by 10, two scores, and two scores of a touchdown and field goal would only tie. If the Vikings just simply kick the extra point, they are only down by 9. Which is still two scores, but a touchdown and field goal would then be enough to retake the lead.

Therefore the correct move there
is to take the easy single pt and put yourself into a better position at only behind by 9.

If you make the 2 point conversation, you’re down 8 and it’s a one possession game.

[Jedzz]

??? I’m not sure what the argument for not going for it.

Because the score was 23-7 before the touchdown possession in question. The touchdown adds 6 points to make it 23-13 before the decision for a 1 or 2 pt play is made. So right then at that moment the Vikings are behind by 10, two scores, and two scores of a touchdown and field goal would only tie. If the Vikings just simply kick the extra point, they are only down by 9. Which is still two scores, but a touchdown and field goal would then be enough to retake the lead.

Therefore the correct move there
is to take the easy single pt and put yourself into a better position at only behind by 9.

If you make the 2 point conversation, you’re down 8 and it’s a one possession game.

That is answered above. That doesn't make it simply a one possession game. My proof of that is them failing on the first 2pt attempt. it's a very hard thing to accomplush once, let alone twice.

For a shorter version here goes. Work out the probability of scoring two 100 yard drives, both for touchdowns and both with 2pt conversions. Because that is what you are saying would have needed to happen in this 4th quarter. Then do the same for two scoring drives, one touchdown with an extra point and one field goal. When you've worked that out on paper, then get back to me. I've already done it in my head, before I posted the first complaint.

Then call up Joe Montana and ask him how he got so many Rings and why the Vikings never do.

[Worm Guts]

Yes, driving the length of the field to score is difficult. That's why you attempt reduce the amount of possessions you need. 9 or 10 points, that's a touchdown and a field goal either way.

[Jedzz]

Yes, driving the length of the field to score is difficult. That's why you attempt reduce the amount of possessions you need. 9 or 10 points, that's a touchdown and a field goal either way.

Tell yourself whatever you want.