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PG has been good but has underwhelmed for the most part thus far this season in terms of being a superstar unstoppable force. Is it time to make Myles option one to play through and allow Paul to play a more complementary role? Im beginning to concede that Paul isnt a superstar. I believe that Paul would play better if Myles was more the focal point of the offense similarly to how the 7 seconds or less Suns had Stoudemire as the focal point and everyone else killed you because of how good he was. I believe Myles can be used similarly in the pick and role/pop offense. Thoughts?
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you guys didnt make a game thread for the wiz game.
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lmao, Myles is not a 1st option and nothing special. It is time to concede that Paul George and everything else worth something on this team should be traded though.
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SBM wrote:lmao, Myles is not a 1st option and nothing special. It is time to concede that Paul George and everything else worth something on this team should be traded though.
What? Turner has shown more talent and been more productive than most of the players drafted above him. And he's got a lot of time to get even better.
I really, really despise the whole mentality of tanking that's so prevalent among a very vocal minority of fans. If your team isn't loaded to the point of unfairness like Cleveland is, then you might as well pack it in and trade everyone and try to lose, right? No.
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boomershadow wrote:SBM wrote:lmao, Myles is not a 1st option and nothing special. It is time to concede that Paul George and everything else worth something on this team should be traded though.
What? Turner has shown more talent and been more productive than most of the players drafted above him. And he's got a lot of time to get even better.
I really, really despise the whole mentality of tanking that's so prevalent among a very vocal minority of fans. If your team isn't loaded to the point of unfairness like Cleveland is, then you might as well pack it in and trade everyone and try to lose, right? No.
Keep Myles Turner but understand he is not special, and not a true 1st option. Trade Paul George because he is not a superstar but will want to be paid like one. Trade everyone else you can after you trade George. I don't consider that tanking.
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SmashMouthRod wrote:PG has been good but has underwhelmed for the most part thus far this season in terms of being a superstar unstoppable force. Is it time to make Myles option one to play through and allow Paul to play a more complementary role? Im beginning to concede that Paul isnt a superstar. I believe that Paul would play better if Myles was more the focal point of the offense similarly to how the 7 seconds or less Suns had Stoudemire as the focal point and everyone else killed you because of how good he was. I believe Myles can be used similarly in the pick and role/pop offense. Thoughts?
In fairness in the Suns and 7 seconds or less Nash was the focal point. That is why he won the MVP.
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SBM wrote:boomershadow wrote:SBM wrote:lmao, Myles is not a 1st option and nothing special. It is time to concede that Paul George and everything else worth something on this team should be traded though.
What? Turner has shown more talent and been more productive than most of the players drafted above him. And he's got a lot of time to get even better.
I really, really despise the whole mentality of tanking that's so prevalent among a very vocal minority of fans. If your team isn't loaded to the point of unfairness like Cleveland is, then you might as well pack it in and trade everyone and try to lose, right? No.
Keep Myles Turner but understand he is not special, and not a true 1st option. Trade Paul George because he is not a superstar but will want to be paid like one. Trade everyone else you can after you trade George. I don't consider that tanking.
Fantasy basketball.
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Pacers_Freak wrote:SmashMouthRod wrote:PG has been good but has underwhelmed for the most part thus far this season in terms of being a superstar unstoppable force. Is it time to make Myles option one to play through and allow Paul to play a more complementary role? Im beginning to concede that Paul isnt a superstar. I believe that Paul would play better if Myles was more the focal point of the offense similarly to how the 7 seconds or less Suns had Stoudemire as the focal point and everyone else killed you because of how good he was. I believe Myles can be used similarly in the pick and role/pop offense. Thoughts?
In fairness in the Suns and 7 seconds or less Nash was the focal point. That is why he won the MVP.
Stoudemire was more of the go to guy than Nash. Nash did a great job attacking to get everyone easy looks and creating for himself; thats how he won MVP. But specifically In year one with D'Antoni, Stoudemire had games with 30+,40+ and even a couple games with 50 or more points. Id say that definitely suggests that he was the focal point of the offense.
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SmashMouthRod wrote:Pacers_Freak wrote:SmashMouthRod wrote:PG has been good but has underwhelmed for the most part thus far this season in terms of being a superstar unstoppable force. Is it time to make Myles option one to play through and allow Paul to play a more complementary role? Im beginning to concede that Paul isnt a superstar. I believe that Paul would play better if Myles was more the focal point of the offense similarly to how the 7 seconds or less Suns had Stoudemire as the focal point and everyone else killed you because of how good he was. I believe Myles can be used similarly in the pick and role/pop offense. Thoughts?
In fairness in the Suns and 7 seconds or less Nash was the focal point. That is why he won the MVP.
Stoudemire was more of the go to guy than Nash. Nash did a great job attacking to get everyone easy looks and creating for himself; thats how he won MVP. But specifically In year one with D'Antoni, Stoudemire had games with 30+,40+ and even a couple games with 50 or more points. Id say that definitely suggests that he was the focal point of the offense.
Agree to disagree. Staud was great no doubt. Still think Nash is the straw that stirred to drink that makes me think he was the vocal point. Just like how they are using Harden this year. I believe it's a PG system. But to your point a stretch big can thrive in it.
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It seems like people (not necessarily on this board, but Facebook and wherever else) think that if we trade Paul, we are getting back an equally elite player. But what recent trades for a top player in his prime have actually brought back good value? (So I'm not counting when Boston traded an aging Pierce or when a broken-down Rose got traded.)
OKC got a mediocre-at-best return for James Harden (and only recovered because they had Durant and Westbrook, Orlando hasn't made the playoffs since the 5 years (likely and counting) since trading Dwight Howard, Boston looked good trading Rondo only because a thrown-in player (Jae Crowder) wound up being the prize, Minnesota hasn't been to the playoffs since trading Kevin Garnett and Kevin Love, and the list goes on.
The only exception is when New York got fleeced by Denver for wanting the golden boy Carmelo Anthony.
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OKC got a mediocre-at-best return for James Harden (and only recovered because they had Durant and Westbrook, Orlando hasn't made the playoffs since the 5 years (likely and counting) since trading Dwight Howard, Boston looked good trading Rondo only because a thrown-in player (Jae Crowder) wound up being the prize, Minnesota hasn't been to the playoffs since trading Kevin Garnett and Kevin Love, and the list goes on.
The only exception is when New York got fleeced by Denver for wanting the golden boy Carmelo Anthony.
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All the Paul George trade talk is about an entire year too early tbqfh if it were to even happen at all.
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so at this point, would you like us to return to January form and be a factor in the playoffs, or fall off a cliff and wind up in the lottery?
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Wizop wrote:so at this point, would you like us to return to January form and be a factor in the playoffs, or fall off a cliff and wind up in the lottery?
This team is all about Paul George so falling off the cliff and hitting the lottery will not help keep him. Plus, I don't think we can fall off enough to get a top 3 pick.
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Just finish the season as a 6th seed, take the Wizards to a Game 6 or 7 (with PG being a Beast like last yr against the Raps).
THEN, this Summer, please take a decision to either trade PG or keep him...the problem with keeping him is building a team around him, there is just nothing out there! Except Butler but I doubt we can offer a better package than Boston, and they are clearly interested!
THEN, this Summer, please take a decision to either trade PG or keep him...the problem with keeping him is building a team around him, there is just nothing out there! Except Butler but I doubt we can offer a better package than Boston, and they are clearly interested!
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SmashMouthRod wrote:PG has been good but has underwhelmed for the most part thus far this season in terms of being a superstar unstoppable force. Is it time to make Myles option one to play through and allow Paul to play a more complementary role? Im beginning to concede that Paul isnt a superstar. I believe that Paul would play better if Myles was more the focal point of the offense similarly to how the 7 seconds or less Suns had Stoudemire as the focal point and everyone else killed you because of how good he was. I believe Myles can be used similarly in the pick and role/pop offense. Thoughts?
Not as long as PG is here. I have no idea what your mean "underwhelmed."