Topofthekey wrote:Scoot McGroot wrote:We were already likely to not see Toppin return because he was a free agent and he’s been tipped by Jalen Smith and Indy has made it clear he’s not a starter for them. I don’t think we were going to offer him a qualifying offer before the Siakam trade as they would fear he’d sign it immediately.
Agree with Toppin
Stix is the real casualty here. He's been playing well as the starting 4 too. He's too good a player to just let walk in free agency
I’ve projected it an it’s absolutely possible. Why do you think it’s impossible? I guess it could be tough if Mathurin, Nembhard, Walker, and Turner are all worthy of max deals, but I think that’s a problem we’d be ecstatic to have.
I hope I'm wrong
But this is how I project it. I'm taking an optimistic approach with our free agents. It's likely they'll cost more
For 25/26:
Siakam $45m
Haliburton $39m
Turner $25m
Total: $109m
For 26/27:
Siakam $45m
Haliburton $39m
Turner $25m
Mathurin $20m
Nembhard $15m
Total: $144m
$144m for just 5 players just doesn't look like something that a team can realistically afford
If the next 10 players on the team cost a combined $50-70m that basically puts them over the tax line
And that's not taking into account yearly increments
I think Turner can get $30-35m as a free agent, we'll be lucky if we can get him for $25m
From earlier posts on this topic:
"Saw this & had to go to spotrac. LOL 8/
Looking at the center salaries out there now,... & increasing them to a 25-26 timeframe... I have to think Myles new contract, if resigned, would be in the 25 - 28 M range? Maybe if there's more competition that year,. it could be a bit higher,.. but I was forecasting his starting salary that year around 26M.
With Pascal in his second year of a new, 30% max contract (46,008,000),.. and Haliburtons projections from Spotrac (38,340,000), the total is $110,348,000. The project cap for 25-26 is $156,200,000. This would make up 70.64% of the cap. More than enough space available (assuming we will be an 'over the cap', non-tax team) to have a good, even contending team. If the cap goes up 10% each year (it has the last 2) instead of the projections, the cap in 25-26 would be $164,585,410, and these 3 would make up 67% of the cap.
Once again,.. when I get into the details, I have to compliment the FO. By doing this now,... yeah, we've lost some flexibility, but it doesn't look like we've really compromised anything?.... thoughts?
(yes, if the cap goes up 10% for next year, then Siakam cap hit would also go up by 2.2M, but that wouldn't make a huge amount of difference.) With the tax apron, based on the projections & not a 10% increase, projected at $189.2M, that would leave us around $79M to fill out the team?
I-Jax is an RFA in 25-26. Mathurin in 26-27. Jarace & Sheppard in 27-28. Those would be the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th years of a Siakam contract. Considering the growth in the cap, it could be tight, but IMO,.. we should be ok. If it turns out that Mathurin, Jarace, and Sheppard are all in line for max rookie extensions,.. then we will have to pay some tax,... but I can't say there isn't a really good side to that problem. LOL =]"
I don't disagree with your estimates on the 26-27 year,... but in 26-27 the NBA is currently forecasting (less than 10% per year growth as mentioned above) a cap of $171,820,000, and a tax threshold of 208,120,000. So based on your estimates above that would leave us with $27M in cap space, and $64M in tax space to fill out the rest of the roster. If we have say 3-4 min contract guys,.. you are probably looking at $58M for 6-7 second team rotation level players,... which should be about right?...