TC Depth Chart/battles

[benchmobbin02]

They haven't been impressed with the return options in camp, it seems. They waived Austin Willis too make room for him. I think they would like the return man to show more explosion and promise than Holiday and Willis have shown. They would also like him to be able to play some slot on offense to justify the roster spot not going to another one of the WRs looking good in camp like Roberts Butler or Durham. My read on it.

[FNQ]

If Wylie was signed, it was to directly compete with Holliday. Winner gets the role. I doubt that Taiwan or Carrie returns a single kick this year.

Also speaks to how we viewed DeBose, simply a returner. We were ready to commit a roster spot to the returner position from day 1.

[benchmobbin02]

If Wylie was signed, it was to directly compete with Holliday. Winner gets the role. I doubt that Taiwan or Carrie returns a single kick this year.

Also speaks to how we viewed DeBose, simply a returner. We were ready to commit a roster spot to the returner position from day 1.

I agree but they would like that player to be able to contribute in speed sets on offense and I think DeBose would have been the ideal candidate for that role before the injury. He really showed flashes at go and wheel routes, screens and gadget plays at the U. Holiday and Willis have disappointed in that regard. Enter Wylie.

[FNQ]

If we want a gadget player that can also return kicks, why not just put Taiwan back there? He fumbles a bit but he meets all that criteria. Willis OTOH was out there for 6 offensive snaps but nothing got tossed his way. It very well could be that they're breaking down DeBose's role into two players, with Taiwan being the new gadget guy and hopefully Wylie being the KR/PR. Wylie'd better be good though, because keeping an extra roster spot for a pure KR/PR means he has to be substantially better than Taiwan

[benchmobbin02]

If we want a gadget player that can also return kicks, why not just put Taiwan back there? He fumbles a bit but he meets all that criteria. Willis OTOH was out there for 6 offensive snaps but nothing got tossed his way. It very well could be that they're breaking down DeBose's role into two players, with Taiwan being the new gadget guy and hopefully Wylie being the KR/PR. Wylie'd better be good though, because keeping an extra roster spot for a pure KR/PR means he has to be substantially better than Taiwan

I think that is the point of bringing in Wylie. They want to get a look at him in both return and gadgets to compete with Jones. I don't think they want to split the duties but will if the players abilities don't live up to their expectations of the duel role. The coaching staff early on stressed competition and though Jones brings a lot to the table they want to push him. IMO they felt Holiday wasn't pushing him on offense and Willis wasn't on both aspect most likely hence his release.

[Twinkie defense]

Taiwan may be too valuable to special teams to risk on offense.


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[benchmobbin02]

Taiwan may be too valuable to special teams to risk on offense.


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I can see that. But I think it's a mix of the two roles that we have been discussing. I think Taiwan will be on all the special teams coverage units and run gadget play and some speed tosses as a half back and the guy that wins the return job will have to be able to play some slot. Willis and Wylie are both 5'9 around 180 so basically a swap. Now Holiday and Wylie are competing.

[FNQ]

CSN Bay Area's latest projections:

http://www.csnbayarea.com/raiders/raiders-roster-projection-version-10

The unexpected:

- 4 RBs, none of which were a 1st round pick
- Thompkins and Holliday both make the roster
- we keep only 8 OL (Howard, Feliciano, Khalif being the backups)
- we keep 3 QBs, Fajardo cut
- we keep Mayowa (listed as DE) and Harris
- we cut CJ Wilson, Orr, McGee (Autry and Lumpkin make it)
- OLB: Moore, Ray Ray, Ball, Malcolm (see ya Shirley, and they apparently cut Valles)
- they have us keeping 5 safeties (Woodson, Allen, Asanate, J Dowling, Ross)

Personally I think SaQuean (sp?) Edwards, Valles, and Mady make the team as well. I think we only carry 4 safeties, drop Holliday, and squad Michael Dyer.

[benchmobbin02]

I really don't like this projection at all. He could be on the money but IMO it's pretty far off. Only reall agree with his TE's and Dline. Mine would be:

QB - Carr, Ponder
Cut - McGloin
PS - Fajardo

RB - Murray, Helu, Jones, ? - meaning someone cut by another team, Reece
Cut - Richardson, Olawale
PS - Dyer

WR - Cooper, Crab, Streater, Thompkins, Butler, Roberts
Cut - Holmes, Wylie, Durham, Williams
PS - Harper

TE - Walford, Smith, Rivera
Cut - Leohardt
PS - Holmes

T - Penn, Watson, Howard
Cut - Kislter
PS - Morris

G - JAckson, Webb, Barnes, Feli
Cut - Eatmans, McCants
PS - Bell

C - Hudson
Cut - Bergstrom, Mady

DE - Mack, Tuck, Mayowa, Edwards, Harris
Cut - Wilson
PS - Valles (could cut harris and keep Valles, toss up)

DT - Williams, Jelly, Lumpkin, Autry
Cut - McGee
PS - Orr

LB - Lofton, Heeney, Smith, Armstrong, Moore, Ball
Cut - Wilkins, Hadley, Miller
PS - Shirley

CB - Hayden, Carrie, McGill, Thorpe, Dockery
Cut - Chewka, Edwards, Dowling
PS - McDonald

S - CWood. Allen, Dowling, Mays (wishful thinking)
Cut - Asante, Ross, McDonald
PS - Hall

P,K,LS - KING, SEASBASS, CONDO
I have 11 on the practice squad - if Harris is cut and Valles makes active then cool if not then either Hall, Bell or Dyer get the axe.

[FNQ]

Stevie Brown released by the Texans today. He'd be the top backup and a good replacement should Woodson falter again at SS

[benchmobbin02]

Doubt he chooses us or we even go after him with us just signing Mays. I think he ends up back with the Giants.

[Twinkie defense]

Trent Richardson gone, good riddance - eat that $600k.


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