arich35 wrote:Oh look, Pats took a kicker in the 4th. Maybe we knew something
what did we know
Moderators: CalamityX12, MHSL82
arich35 wrote:Oh look, Pats took a kicker in the 4th. Maybe we knew something
clyde21 wrote:arich35 wrote:Oh look, Pats took a kicker in the 4th. Maybe we knew something
what did we know
arich35 wrote:clyde21 wrote:arich35 wrote:Oh look, Pats took a kicker in the 4th. Maybe we knew something
what did we know
Moody wouldn't have made it to our 5th round pick
TheMonarch wrote:No offense linemen drafted. Double dipped at LB, and at TE.
I'll predict that next year the 9ers will draft at least 2 O-linemen.
Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:This kid was a fringe 5 star recruit coming out of high school. He committed to my favorite college football team (FSU) and suffered a devastating knee injury. He was never that explosive runner after that. As talented as he still is now, he remains a big what if:
?s=20
thesack12 wrote:You can say a lot of things about this front office, but complacent is not valid at all IMO.
Complacency doesn't = making a bold, super risky, very expensive trade up to draft the most inexperienced 1st round QB in history
Complacency doesn't = trading a pile of picks for arguably the most impactful (Non QB) offensive player in the league yet he's very injury prone
Complacency doesn't = While short on cap, throwing a huge bag at a 30 year old, so you can pluck an important piece away from the team that just beat you.
If anything, I'd say this front office is hungry and has a penchant for gambling.
Trying to compare what the Eagles brought in the draft, versus what the 9ers did is a pointless exercise. Philly had 4 picks in top 66 (including #9, and another 1st.) Whereas, the 9ers weren't even scheduled to go on the clock until #99. Of course, Philly brought in more talent, and conceivably got better much moreso than the 9ers did. I'm not sure, why this is even a point of discussion. Its essentially an impossible metric for the 9ers to come out ahead in.
I don't know, I guess I just went in to the draft with an entirely different mindset than some folks. 9ers weren't going to be in position to bring in impact talent, so I was operating under the mindset that bringing in a couple of guys that could even contribute next year was going to be a win. This is still a very talented roster, so it was always going to be a bit difficult for any of these draft picks to come in and make hay early on.
Touching specifically on the Moody pick, again my mindset was being content with getting guys that are going to be able to contribute. Well, Moody projects to be a day 1 starter. Take position out of it for a second, before the draft if someone told you that the 9ers were going to come away with a day 1 starter with one of the compensatory 3rds, would you have been mad? My guess, is people would have been stoked about that. I get positional value, and I'm not trying to discount it. As I mentioned in one of my posts prior to the draft, I said I think they will go kicker but much prefer it be with one of the 7ths. Still, some in 9er nation are acting like this is Janikowski in the 1st all over again, or even a reprint of Aguayo in the 2nd. While it is rare to take a kicker in the first 100 picks, its far from unprecedented.
Now to reflect on 3rd round picks as a whole, and see what else might have been available. Of course every draft is different, but we have a fairly substantial sample size to evaluate here. This regime has made 10 3rd round selections: CJ Beathard, Ahkello Witherspoon, Tarvarius Moore, Fred Warner, Jalen Hurd, Ambry Thomas, Trey Sermon, Danny Gray, Ty Davis Price, and Moody. Save for Warner, what a giant list of turds that is. Warner was a homerun pick, but all those others are nothing burgers. Judging by the past 3rd round history, hell just being able to consistently contribute will be a win for Moody. I get that is not a high bar, but again it kind of speaks to the crap shoot nature of the draft, especially as you get outside the premium picks.
It just goes to show that in my opinion some people were just expecting to much from this draft. If Moody kicks a playoff game winner next year, are people really going to care that he was drafted in the 3rd round?...
As I alluded to in a pre-draft post, with the shortage of picks this year I did basically no research for this draft. So I can't elaborate much on any of the specific prospects. Overall, I'm disappointed they didn't take at least 1 offensive lineman. Still, as I reflected on earlier its going to be hard for any of these guys to make the team and actually contribute, so maybe they felt that in those later rounds nobody was worth taking because they probably wouldn't make the team. There is no sense in drafting a position just because you appear thin there. Maybe they had some of these UDFA's on a similar tier, or perhaps feel they can still get better options on the free agent market.
Also, as for the O-line specifically, considering we were all worried about Brendel and Banks going into last season. Yet they showed faith in those guys and didn't make any short sighted moves to plug into the line. Turns out they were right, both those guys had really solid seasons. So to that point, they have currently have earned the benefit of the doubt in relation to the O-line. At least they have from me anyways.
Shrug, I don't have any strong feelings about this draft one way or the other. And again I wasn't expecting much and went into basically blind, so I'm a leaf blowing in the wind currently. Besides, we won't really have a legitimate feel for the success or fail rate of this draft class until they've been in the league at least 2 seasons.