Danny's Early offseason everything thread (updated)

[TTown]

What would you give up for Vincent Jackson, taking into account his 3 game suspension?

I think Housh would benefit by Jackson's presence, and I think Butler/Tate would be more than capable as the 3rd WR. We could probably cut Branch, too, which is icing on the cake.

Then again, we'll probably suck, so giving anything up for Jackson might not even be worth it.

[Danny Darko]

not convinced I want him for the reported price (2 2nds). I like his size and his skill, but they'd have to maybe consider 1 2nd or Hill or a WR + a 4th

[Sweezo]

not convinced I want him for the reported price (2 2nds). I like his size and his skill, but they'd have to maybe consider 1 2nd or Hill or a WR + a 4th

I like Jackson but I think the cost will be too high; Given what the front office did with high picks this year, I have confidence in their ability to build through the draft. While I would like to add a top flight WR, with Housh/Tate/Butler [and Williams as a dark horse] I think we have a decent core.

[Danny Darko]

God am I glad we ditched Mora. Now he calls Pete a cheater... What a mistake to hire him in the first place:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bThbldPK43Y&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

[Danny Darko]

No Way Hill got off that easy? One game? Does this make him someone we need or just valuable enough to trade?

Seattle Seahawks linebacker Leroy Hill will miss the season opener after being suspended by the NFL on Friday for violating the league's substance abuse policy.

Hill will miss the Seahawks season opener against San Francisco on Sept. 12. His suspension without pay also includes forfeiting an additional game check.

Hill can participate in all preseason practices and games. His suspension begins on Sept. 4 and will be eligible to return Sept. 13 following the Seahawks' opener against San Francisco.

http://www.seattlepi.com/football/2020ap_fbn_seahawks_hill.html

[Sweezo]

That's just for the pot charge...he's still going to be suspended for his DV case at some point; it's just a matter of which season.

[Danny Darko]

Leiweke is leaving the Blazers and Seahawks for hockey:

Tod Leiweke resigned as CEO of Vulcan Sports and Entertainment on Monday, leaving the arm that oversees ownership of the Seattle Seahawks, Portland Trail Blazers and Seattle Sounders FC just days before the Seahawks begin training camp.

In a statement released by Vulcan, Leiweke says he's leaving after seven years overseeing the professional sports teams Paul Allen owns to become CEO and part owner of the NHL's Tampa Bay Lightning.

"Paul Allen is the most fan-friendly owner in professional sports. He has built great sports franchises that have always given much back to the community," Leiweke said in the statement. "We have strong management and coaching in place in Seattle and Portland and I know the teams are in good hands."

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/6420ap_fbn_seahawks_leiweke.html

[Danny Darko]

Golden Tate is on board with a neatly fitting salary:

The former Notre Dame wide receiver is expected to be a large part of the Seahawks' plans this year as a big-play receiver who should challenge for playing time immediately both at receiver and kick returner.

The National Football Post says the deal is for four years at $3.261 million, including $1.471 million in guaranteed money.

That's a lot of Top Pot maple bars, but nothing out of line in the NFL world where Tate -- as the 60th overall pick -- falls neatly in between the amounts agreed to earlier by the 59th and 61st selections

http://blog.seattlepi.com/football/archives/216019.asp

[Danny Darko]

Pitts Signed

RENTON, Wash. -- Free-agent guard Chester Pitts has agreed with the Seattle Seahawks on a $2 million, one-year contract on the eve of training camp.

Pitts started 114 games for Houston, first as a left tackle and then in 2006 as a left guard. A second-round pick for the Texans in 2002, Pitts is rejoining former Houston line coach Alex Gibbs in Seattle.

Pitts will get a chance to start on a revamped Seahawks line. Seattle traded starting guard Rob Sims to Detroit in the offseason for defensive end Robert Henderson and a draft choice.
The Seahawks released Henderson and linebacker Anthony Heygood on Thursday.

Wasn't Henderson our starting end in all the camps? So Does Dexter Davis get the nod or Ricky Foley or movie Curry and start Heater?

[Danny Darko]

word has it Trent Silverback Williams just signed by the Redskins to a 6 year, $60 Million contract. Okung should get about 10-15% less positionally and should probably sign shortly unless there are any weird snags.

[Danny Darko]

Earl Thomas is in (more here), but wtf Okung?

[TTown]

Okung is in. 6 years, 58 mil. 29 guaranteed.

[Danny Darko]

RENTON – According to Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll, veteran quarterback Matt Hasselbeck’s struggles last season can be summed up succinctly – he was trying too hard.

“It was clear that he was over-trying,” said Carroll after watching film from last season. “Tremendously over-trying. He was trying to make things happen, in classic fashion to try and make a play and that caused him to make decisions where he would throw the ball into trouble.

Hasselbeck agreed with Carroll’s assessment, and said he’s trying to learn from his errors. One way he is doing that is by watching a Kobe Bryant video that discusses how to handle trying to take on too much as one of the leaders on the team.

“I can see myself last year in a lot of the stuff Kobe was talking about,” Hasselbeck said. “And I would have been totally blind to it until it kind of came up the other night in a team meeting. And Gus Bradley had talked about it, and Pete (Carroll) talked about it. And then he showed this Kobe video and it all started to make sense a little bit.”

Read more: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2010/08/1 ... hasselbeck.

Well hopefully Matt looks good this year behind a line that could be vastly better, then.

[Danny Darko]

The offseason is starting to wrap up (thank god).

I chatted with Mike Sando today and asked him this:

Dan

Hi Mike. It seems that Kam Chancellor is looking good in camp. Do you think he could be a dark horse for real minutes this season and do you think that Babineux is the odd man out with Thurmond looking good even on a bum knee?


Mike Sando
(11:44 AM)

Jordan Babineaux does look like an odd man out over the longer term. We'll see if that's the case early in the season. Chancellor has impressed Seattle with his ability to pick up the system quickly. He is also a big guy. I'm just not sure how much the Seahawks will be able to trust him as a rookie. The theory behind your idea seems sound, though. Agreed on Walter Thurmond. Kelly Jennings could be the odd man out, I think. They could start Josh Wilson and have him slide inside in the nickel, as he has done previously, with Thurmond taking over on the outside. Just some thoughts. Earl Thomas' addition is another wild card because he can play cornerback if needed.

I think we're a ton better in our secondary this year. I was thinking Kam would be a lug with no game speed or game IQ, though I was salivating and wanting to hope he was the real deal. It's early, but what he's shown so far is reason for excitement I think. I still remember how Hamlin came in and made a mark (pre fight) and I hope that we get much of the same from Kam, though with many young safeties you worry about them giving up home run plays.

[Danny Darko]

Brandon Jones, Matt Jones, Vincent Jackson all linked to us? Somethings gotta give. Maybe Housh is not long for the team. I'd be into trading Branch/Housh/both to SD more than Matt Jones or Brandon Jones.

[TTown]

I wouldn't want Matt Jones under any circumstance. Brandon Jones is an option, however lackluster. Kid's got speed, anyway.

Jackson would be quite the get. What did Denver get for Brandon Marshall, a 2nd round pick? I imagine Jackson's price would be about the same?

Jackson's got to sit the first 3 games, but a Jackson/Housh/Tate (Branch/Butler) 1-2-3 would be pretty legit. Housh is a #2 through and through.

[Sweezo]

Matt Jones is a Bengal, anyway...and was never a 49er to my knowledge. I think they meant "Brandon" in the article.

Yes, if we can get Jackson for a 2nd round pick, I say take it. Dump Branch, and suddenly we can run trips with Jackson/Housh/M. Williams. Or two TE sets with Carlson and Morrah, both big targets with nice hands.

[Ex-hippie]

Yes, if we can get Jackson for a 2nd round pick, I say take it.

But therein lies the rub. This FO wouldn't know a value proposition or an opportunistic trading strategy if it bit them in the ass. When they want something, their approach is "eff it, whatever it takes, we're going to go get it." I just can't conceive of this front office trading the same value for Vincent Jackson as it traded for Charlie Whitehurst, with the same counterparty no less.

A glimmer of hope? Someone did outbid them for Brandon Marshall, so there's that.

[Bulltalk]

I don't know about trading away another high pick for Vincent J. I don't know about giving such a guy a rich contract when he's got 2 DUI's and now being a whiner. I'd just as soon wait for the draft and get a receiver. I'm still perturbed about giving up a 2nd round pick for a 3rd string QB.

We need to build through the draft at this point, not give our draft picks away. We're not going to go much anywhere this year or next anyway.

[Danny Darko]

Well we signed B Jones. I don't really understand the 49ers initial signing of him before he was cut. Is his speed that tantalizing?