ImageImageImageImageImage

Austin Rivers watch

Moderators: og15, TrueLAfan

User avatar
mj_shoefanatic
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,113
And1: 104
Joined: Dec 23, 2007
Location: Lob Angeles
       

Re: Austin Rivers watch 

Post#121 » by mj_shoefanatic » Wed Jul 8, 2015 12:07 am

Looks like Austin will be staying with us for peanuts. Maybe his father will promise to pay him more next offseason :lol:
User avatar
madmaxmedia
RealGM
Posts: 11,810
And1: 6,747
Joined: Jun 22, 2001
Location: SoCal
     

Re: Austin Rivers watch 

Post#122 » by madmaxmedia » Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:14 pm

If someone actually offered him full MLE, then best of luck to him. But I doubt it will happen.

He has genuine NBA athleticism, but not refined enough. He got a lot of shots to fall in those big playoff games, they were makeable shots so not pure luck, but you're just not going to hit such a high percentage of them over the long run. If he could develop a deadeye jumper then he could be a great backup scorer.

I would like to keep him at a lower number, but ironically father Doc Rivers doesn't like to develop young players.
wco81
RealGM
Posts: 22,109
And1: 9,254
Joined: Jul 04, 2013
       

Re: Austin Rivers watch 

Post#123 » by wco81 » Wed Jul 8, 2015 5:47 pm

His playoff shooting percentages were decent but not very high:

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6617/austin-rivers

I believe 35% from 3-point range is about average. So if he can shoot around 45% and 37-38%, he'd be pretty effective.

Of course his career numbers are well below that so he'd have to improve a lot.

He's kind of a tweener, not really big enough for a 2, maybe not quick enough to be a dedicated 1. His assist to turnover numbers are not good.

Quite a come down because he must have been one of the most highly-recruited player out of high school, leaves after just one year at NC and is a low lottery pick and the team that drafts him bails early on him.

Well if it doesn't work out, he can be an assistant coach on his father's staff, if Doc is still coaching.
User avatar
Ranma
RealGM
Posts: 14,456
And1: 4,062
Joined: Jun 13, 2011
Location: OC, CA
Contact:
       

Blue Devil in the Details 

Post#124 » by Ranma » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:01 pm

wco81 wrote:Quite a come down because he must have been one of the most highly-recruited player out of high school, leaves after just one year at NC and is a low lottery pick and the team that drafts him bails early on him.


Junior Rivers actually went to Duke:

Image
LA Legends: Kershaw & Koufax_ Image _IGNORED: Max Headrom-esqtvd-QRich3-EBledsoe12-alon8882-45clip
wco81
RealGM
Posts: 22,109
And1: 9,254
Joined: Jul 04, 2013
       

Re: Austin Rivers watch 

Post#125 » by wco81 » Thu Jul 9, 2015 2:56 am

Ah yes, mixed those up.

Probably could have stayed there another year.
User avatar
Ranma
RealGM
Posts: 14,456
And1: 4,062
Joined: Jun 13, 2011
Location: OC, CA
Contact:
       

Duke Dropout 

Post#126 » by Ranma » Thu Jul 9, 2015 3:02 am

I agree. He definitely needed more work and discipline in his game under the tutelage of Coach K, but his headstrong nature couldn't absorb those valuable lessons, so believing in his own prep hype, he left school for the draft. It's his own fault that he's an unfinished product, which is exactly why he's undeserving of a long-term contract.
LA Legends: Kershaw & Koufax_ Image _IGNORED: Max Headrom-esqtvd-QRich3-EBledsoe12-alon8882-45clip
TheNewEra
RealGM
Posts: 28,627
And1: 10,409
Joined: Aug 28, 2008
Location: Lob City
       

Re: Austin Rivers watch 

Post#127 » by TheNewEra » Thu Jul 9, 2015 12:51 pm

Any update on this status.
nickhx2
RealGM
Posts: 10,462
And1: 6,296
Joined: Feb 13, 2014

Re: Austin Rivers watch 

Post#128 » by nickhx2 » Thu Jul 9, 2015 3:27 pm

not that i've heard of but we better work quick to make it happen.

of course jameer nelson's still out there but i doubt he comes for the minimum.
User avatar
madmaxmedia
RealGM
Posts: 11,810
And1: 6,747
Joined: Jun 22, 2001
Location: SoCal
     

Re: Austin Rivers watch 

Post#129 » by madmaxmedia » Thu Jul 9, 2015 7:02 pm

wco81 wrote:His playoff shooting percentages were decent but not very high:

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6617/austin-rivers

I believe 35% from 3-point range is about average. So if he can shoot around 45% and 37-38%, he'd be pretty effective.

Of course his career numbers are well below that so he'd have to improve a lot.


IIRC he had some hot games earlier (with resulting high usage), but then started coming back down to earth. So I'm not surprised his playoff numbers were better than career numbers.

He'd probably dominate on a playground though. Kind of like a poor man's Zach Levine?
User avatar
Ranma
RealGM
Posts: 14,456
And1: 4,062
Joined: Jun 13, 2011
Location: OC, CA
Contact:
       

Junior Rivers Moving Back In 

Post#130 » by Ranma » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:27 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/619556862392946690[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ArashMarkazi/status/619556875730857985[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/619557785764786176[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/LarryCoon/status/619563430970654721[/tweet]
LA Legends: Kershaw & Koufax_ Image _IGNORED: Max Headrom-esqtvd-QRich3-EBledsoe12-alon8882-45clip
User avatar
thanumba2clippersfan
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 13,689
And1: 700
Joined: Aug 11, 2005
Location: State College, PA
Contact:
     

Re: Austin Rivers watch 

Post#131 » by thanumba2clippersfan » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:41 pm

So if he's coming back we're not looking for a backup PG then
I've been an LA Clipper fan since 1998 and that will never change. I hate our new logo and jerseys!
User avatar
Ranma
RealGM
Posts: 14,456
And1: 4,062
Joined: Jun 13, 2011
Location: OC, CA
Contact:
       

3rd PG 

Post#132 » by Ranma » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:43 pm

thanumba2clippersfan wrote:So if he's coming back we're not looking for a backup PG then


I still think the team could use a more traditional backup PG, but now will not be pressured to offer anything more than the vet minimum.
LA Legends: Kershaw & Koufax_ Image _IGNORED: Max Headrom-esqtvd-QRich3-EBledsoe12-alon8882-45clip
User avatar
TucsonClip
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,522
And1: 937
Joined: Jan 19, 2011
Contact:
 

Re: Austin Rivers watch 

Post#133 » by TucsonClip » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:44 pm

thanumba2clippersfan wrote:So if he's coming back we're not looking for a backup PG then


Nope, but we'll definitely look for a 3rd PG who is capable of playing back up minutes if needed.
Plus, why would I want to go to the NBA? Duke players suck in the pros.

- Shane Battier
User avatar
thanumba2clippersfan
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 13,689
And1: 700
Joined: Aug 11, 2005
Location: State College, PA
Contact:
     

Re: 3rd PG 

Post#134 » by thanumba2clippersfan » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:45 pm

Ranma wrote:
thanumba2clippersfan wrote:So if he's coming back we're not looking for a backup PG then


I still think the team could use a more traditional backup PG, but now will not be pressured to offer anything more than the vet minimum.


Pretty much, I feel like we should have 3 PGs on the roster and Austin isn't really a PG. You said it though, we'll look for some PG that will sign for the minimum.
I've been an LA Clipper fan since 1998 and that will never change. I hate our new logo and jerseys!
wco81
RealGM
Posts: 22,109
And1: 9,254
Joined: Jul 04, 2013
       

Re: Austin Rivers watch 

Post#135 » by wco81 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:58 pm

Heard that Clippers are able to offer up to $3.1 million which is the amount he would have gotten under the contract he originally signed with New Orleans.

Whether that's his market value or not is another matter.
User avatar
mj_shoefanatic
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,113
And1: 104
Joined: Dec 23, 2007
Location: Lob Angeles
       

Re: Austin Rivers watch 

Post#136 » by mj_shoefanatic » Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:58 pm

Guess we found CP's backup :crazy:
User avatar
Ranma
RealGM
Posts: 14,456
And1: 4,062
Joined: Jun 13, 2011
Location: OC, CA
Contact:
       

Diminishing Returns 

Post#137 » by Ranma » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:14 pm

I'm crossing my fingers that Doc will take a page out of Olshey's playbook this offseason and give Junior Rivers a short-term contract with decreasing salary in subsequent years to lower the future cap hit. I'd be fine with giving him $3.1 for the upcoming season but he would have to have a lower "allowance" in every season thereafter. This would make him a more attractive trade asset as either cap filler or provide incentive for him to opt out depending on whether the option year(s) is/are player or team activated. It's probably too much to ask from Doc, but come on, his son is not exactly a solid piece with teams clamoring for his services at a premium price.
LA Legends: Kershaw & Koufax_ Image _IGNORED: Max Headrom-esqtvd-QRich3-EBledsoe12-alon8882-45clip
nickhx2
RealGM
Posts: 10,462
And1: 6,296
Joined: Feb 13, 2014

Re: Austin Rivers watch 

Post#138 » by nickhx2 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:20 pm

wco81 wrote:Heard that Clippers are able to offer up to $3.1 million which is the amount he would have gotten under the contract he originally signed with New Orleans.

Whether that's his market value or not is another matter.


yes. he can be paid up to $3.1M. this is via his limited bird rights and does not affect our cap situation. basically a free 3.1m to spend on rivers.
Lindecision
Banned User
Posts: 1,363
And1: 151
Joined: Jul 20, 2012

Re: Austin Rivers watch 

Post#139 » by Lindecision » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:31 pm

Was always gonna happen. If things go according to plan Lance will dominate the ball anyway.

And Nate Wolters has looked good in summer league apparently.
User avatar
TdotRap4Lyfe
General Manager
Posts: 7,885
And1: 5,079
Joined: Feb 02, 2013
Location: Toronto
     

Re: Austin Rivers watch 

Post#140 » by TdotRap4Lyfe » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:51 pm

Would this count as a conflict of interest? Choosing to re-sign Junior Rivers, over looking for a proven backup PG?
Image
Credits to Jstock12

Return to Los Angeles Clippers