KL2 wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:og15 wrote:I want everything and I want it now!
I want a serious franchise, and after 53 mostly unserious years, I don't think it's an unfair thing to ask.
Scoundreldays wrote:KL2 wrote:
Isn't that what KD had last year or the precious year? Will be out probably atleast 6 weeks?
May have slightly overrated last night but we need to keep that defensive mindset we had the first few games.
I'm not expert but if we stagger 2 of the big four. I feel Westbrook and PG should stay together. They clearly have history and PG plays solid with him. Harden Kawhi both seem to like that slower pace so I think they would be okay together
What SHOULD work doesn't always work. 
Are We Having Fun Yet? wakelaunch1 wrote:We gotta trade Powell for some front court depth. 4/5. He doesnt really fit with the addition of Harden. Plus we are now so guard heavy.
Are We Having Fun Yet? 
Clemenza wrote:Since anything goes this season, we might as well say f*ck it and go all the way with it and pick up Kai Jones imo.
og15 wrote:MartinToVaught wrote:og15 wrote:I want everything and I want it now!
I want a serious franchise, and after 53 mostly unserious years, I don't think it's an unfair thing to ask.
The franchise had a fool as owner for 44 of those years, so what were we expecting? If we became Clippers fans with Sterling as an owner expecting a championship, wasn't the joke on us? I mean of course many of us might have been much younger and didn't understand, but as adults, we certainly can't be saying, "why hasn't this franchise won" and being beat down by it as if we're ignorant of what the franchise has been.
The group that has been around for 8 years and in the 9th has no culpability for the sins of the previous guy. Had nothing to do with them. Sucks for us as the fans, but life isn't fair either and our tears won't make it any more fair.
8 years is nothing in the life of an NBA team. The Clippers have had zero seasons under .500 in the Ballmer era.
The Clippers have had five 50+ win equivalent seasons in that span (5/8 seasons). The Clippers also took a chance on a known injury prone superstar, a chance everyone applauded, and he's had one healthy playoffs in 4 seasons, and the one healthy one, his co-star was mentally unhealthy.
The High Cyde wrote:Super happy it wasn’t worse for Plumlee, looking forward to seeing him back this season. He’s weird with his handles and what not but I’ve always been a fan lol
clipperlover wrote:og15 wrote:MartinToVaught wrote:I want a serious franchise, and after 53 mostly unserious years, I don't think it's an unfair thing to ask.
The franchise had a fool as owner for 44 of those years, so what were we expecting? If we became Clippers fans with Sterling as an owner expecting a championship, wasn't the joke on us? I mean of course many of us might have been much younger and didn't understand, but as adults, we certainly can't be saying, "why hasn't this franchise won" and being beat down by it as if we're ignorant of what the franchise has been.
The group that has been around for 8 years and in the 9th has no culpability for the sins of the previous guy. Had nothing to do with them. Sucks for us as the fans, but life isn't fair either and our tears won't make it any more fair.
8 years is nothing in the life of an NBA team. The Clippers have had zero seasons under .500 in the Ballmer era.
The Clippers have had five 50+ win equivalent seasons in that span (5/8 seasons). The Clippers also took a chance on a known injury prone superstar, a chance everyone applauded, and he's had one healthy playoffs in 4 seasons, and the one healthy one, his co-star was mentally unhealthy.
Sorry, but we have had a fool as an owner the entire franchise history.
The prior owner didn't like to spend money especially if they weren't competing for a title.
The current owner spends money like it grows on trees
Let's break down the "success" of these two owners:
Prior owner - 7 Playoff teams, 4 1st round exists, 3 Semifinal exits
Ballmer
Pre- Kawhi/PG (core guys from the prior owner's time) - 4 playoff appearances, 1 Semifinal, 3 1st round exits
Kawhi/PG era - 3 playoff appearances, 1 WCF, 1 Semifinal, 1 1st round exit
So, as far as playoff success, the old guy did it with a team made up of mostly organically grown core players and he wasn't losing about as much as his payroll each year. The prior guy made money by getting paid from owners like Ballmer.
The prior owner went through coaches regularly and wouldn't have nepotism. Ballmer won't change out a coach until the current coach runs the team into the ground.
Ballmer's teams have had more regular season success. However, they have to have regular season success because they have given away picks and can't afford to end up in the lottery.
You know who has been under .500 since we were last under .500? Every NBA Champion since 2014-2015 and GS did it twice. Every NBA Champion since 2019-2020 has been under .500 during the Ballmer regime. That also includes all Conference Finals participants, other than us, during that time.
Could care less about a bunch of above .500 seasons that end in 1st and 2nd round exits.
Are We Having Fun Yet? The High Cyde wrote:Super happy it wasn’t worse for Plumlee, looking forward to seeing him back this season. He’s weird with his handles and what not but I’ve always been a fan lol
Are We Having Fun Yet? 
esqtvd wrote:Scoundreldays wrote:KL2 wrote:
Isn't that what KD had last year or the precious year? Will be out probably atleast 6 weeks?
May have slightly overrated last night but we need to keep that defensive mindset we had the first few games.
I'm not expert but if we stagger 2 of the big four. I feel Westbrook and PG should stay together. They clearly have history and PG plays solid with him. Harden Kawhi both seem to like that slower pace so I think they would be okay together
Very ace eye-test and BB IQ observations, bro.
There are those who laugh at plus/minus but rest assured everyone from the GM suite to the coaches to the underlings in the film room will look at the 2-man lineup numbers as to who plays better with whom.
Because the scoreboard doesn't lie.
HINT: The best 2-man lineup will ALWAYS be Kawhi and PG. Ty has to figure it backwards from there. There are 240 minutes to fill in an NBA regulation game. THAT is the coach's job, to fill them.
https://www.nba.com/stats/lineups/traditional?GroupQuantity=2&TeamID=1610612746&dir=D&slug=traditional&sort=PLUS_MINUS
esqtvd wrote:clipperlover wrote:og15 wrote:The franchise had a fool as owner for 44 of those years, so what were we expecting? If we became Clippers fans with Sterling as an owner expecting a championship, wasn't the joke on us? I mean of course many of us might have been much younger and didn't understand, but as adults, we certainly can't be saying, "why hasn't this franchise won" and being beat down by it as if we're ignorant of what the franchise has been.
The group that has been around for 8 years and in the 9th has no culpability for the sins of the previous guy. Had nothing to do with them. Sucks for us as the fans, but life isn't fair either and our tears won't make it any more fair.
8 years is nothing in the life of an NBA team. The Clippers have had zero seasons under .500 in the Ballmer era.
The Clippers have had five 50+ win equivalent seasons in that span (5/8 seasons). The Clippers also took a chance on a known injury prone superstar, a chance everyone applauded, and he's had one healthy playoffs in 4 seasons, and the one healthy one, his co-star was mentally unhealthy.
Sorry, but we have had a fool as an owner the entire franchise history.
The prior owner didn't like to spend money especially if they weren't competing for a title.
The current owner spends money like it grows on trees
Let's break down the "success" of these two owners:
Prior owner - 7 Playoff teams, 4 1st round exists, 3 Semifinal exits
Ballmer
Pre- Kawhi/PG (core guys from the prior owner's time) - 4 playoff appearances, 1 Semifinal, 3 1st round exits
Kawhi/PG era - 3 playoff appearances, 1 WCF, 1 Semifinal, 1 1st round exit
So, as far as playoff success, the old guy did it with a team made up of mostly organically grown core players and he wasn't losing about as much as his payroll each year. The prior guy made money by getting paid from owners like Ballmer.
The prior owner went through coaches regularly and wouldn't have nepotism. Ballmer won't change out a coach until the current coach runs the team into the ground.
Ballmer's teams have had more regular season success. However, they have to have regular season success because they have given away picks and can't afford to end up in the lottery.
You know who has been under .500 since we were last under .500? Every NBA Champion since 2014-2015 and GS did it twice. Every NBA Champion since 2019-2020 has been under .500 during the Ballmer regime. That also includes all Conference Finals participants, other than us, during that time.
Could care less about a bunch of above .500 seasons that end in 1st and 2nd round exits.Spoiler:
clipperlover wrote:
Ballmer's teams have had more regular season success. However, they have to have regular season success because they have given away picks and can't afford to end up in the lottery.
You know who has been under .500 since we were last under .500? Every NBA Champion since 2014-2015 and GS did it twice. Every NBA Champion since 2019-2020 has been under .500 during the Ballmer regime. That also includes all Conference Finals participants, other than us, during that time.
Could care less about a bunch of above .500 seasons that end in 1st and 2nd round exits.So instead of finding a new team to douche, you make US suffer? Ballmer will own this team til the day he dies. Or you do.
Find another team and another board to douche. Time to move on, whoever tf you are. Turd. Punchbowl.
If these dumbasses listen to suggestions about making a trade for Karl Anthony Charmin, you may get your wish. Would be a great trade for Kawhi/PG to go there. Minny team with Kawhi/PG vice Charmin could win the title. Minny with Charmin is a perpetual 1st round knockout.
Until then, I am not going anywhere just because you want to Kumbaya everything. I've been with this team longer than every player, other than P.J. Tucker, has been alive. Sorry pointing out facts is too much for you to handle. Ballmer loves the money and support without requiring he do better. At least, he is investing in toilets.
Are We Having Fun Yet? esqtvd wrote:wakelaunch1 wrote:We gotta trade Powell for some front court depth. 4/5. He doesnt really fit with the addition of Harden. Plus we are now so guard heavy.Spoiler:
playaloc916 wrote:Really glad Plumdog didn't have a more serious injury. He has his faults, but he's a good interior presence and more athletic than Zubac. Solid bench guy.
All this talk of the old owner... Makes me sentimental, having both Brand and Kaman... I still remember that game where both had like 20 boards in the same game...
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