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Clippers - Denver Trade (cash/draft rights) 

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Post#3 » by esqtvd » Thu Feb 8, 2024 8:42 pm

Emerging as one of the most impressive gems in the 2022-23 EuroCup, shining with Paris Basketball by averaging 9.2 points and 8.4 rebounds per game while leading the European league in blocks (1.5 per game), the French altitude defensive specialist is learning with a veteran locker room.


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Below is his Summer League. It's also the only latest video I've found of Kamagate.



Could end up being David Michineau 2.0, a draft-and-stash asset for trades.
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Post#6 » by wakelaunch1 » Fri Feb 9, 2024 2:56 am

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Below is his Summer League. It's also the only latest video I've found of Kamagate.



Could end up being David Michineau 2.0, a draft-and-stash asset for trades.



Meh. Doesnt look athletic enough and kinda uncoordinated with his footwork. Dleague at best. He looks like a worse version of Diabate.
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Re: Clippers - Denver Trade (cash/draft rights) 

Post#7 » by donemilio21 » Fri Feb 9, 2024 5:11 pm

I think it's a move to fill a future roster spot in the future. $2.6M is a steep price for a guy who is already 23 and may never see NBA floor. But he might be the 14th or 15th guy next year at the lowest salary, particularly if we trade our only 2nd round pick (late 40s-early 50s) in this years draft.
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Post#8 » by madmaxmedia » Fri Feb 9, 2024 5:49 pm

donemilio21 wrote:I think it's a move to fill a future roster spot in the future. $2.6M is a steep price for a guy who is already 23 and may never see NBA floor. But he might be the 14th or 15th guy next year at the lowest salary, particularly if we trade our only 2nd round pick (late 40s-early 50s) in this years draft.


Yeah, there had to be some motivation for the move right? I just don't really know what it was LOL.
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Re: Clippers - Denver Trade (cash/draft rights) 

Post#9 » by donemilio21 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:26 am

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donemilio21 wrote:I think it's a move to fill a future roster spot in the future. $2.6M is a steep price for a guy who is already 23 and may never see NBA floor. But he might be the 14th or 15th guy next year at the lowest salary, particularly if we trade our only 2nd round pick (late 40s-early 50s) in this years draft.


Yeah, there had to be some motivation for the move right? I just don't really know what it was LOL.

There must be some thought on future flexibility. While I understand going all in to the current Kawhi-PG-Harden beyond next year, that is certainly very expensive and the penalties on being over the 2nd apron for multiple years is pretty steep.

Teams will no longer be able to use the taxpayer mid-level exception.
If a team remains in the second apron three out of five seasons, their first-round pick will automatically move to the end of the round, beginning next season.
First-round picks seven years out — a valuable asset for capped-out contenders — cannot be traded beginning next season.
Salaries cannot be aggregated or combined to trade for a single player making more money.


We can theoratically drop below the 2nd apron next year, even if we extend Harden, Russ and PG, if we trade Tucker and Powel, and fill rest of the roster with 5 rookie/two-way guys. Kamagate would cost $1.1M, $700k less than a 1 year+ vet
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Post#10 » by Wammy Giveaway » Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:50 am

donemilio21 wrote:
Teams will no longer be able to use the taxpayer mid-level exception.
If a team remains in the second apron three out of five seasons, their first-round pick will automatically move to the end of the round, beginning next season.
First-round picks seven years out — a valuable asset for capped-out contenders — cannot be traded beginning next season.
Salaries cannot be aggregated or combined to trade for a single player making more money.


We can theoretically drop below the 2nd apron next year, even if we extend Harden, Russ and PG, if we trade Tucker and Powel, and fill rest of the roster with 5 rookie/two-way guys. Kamagate would cost $1.1M, $700k less than a 1 year+ vet


I don't know if Clippers will be able to even sign Kamagate. The rumor I'm hearing is that extra restrictions may be imposed for next season. Teams who are over the 2nd apron are barred from signing any player, including veteran minimum contracts and draft picks. The only thing they'll be able to do is re-sign any players via bird rights, perhaps convert a two-way player to a standard contract. This means the only avenue they'll have is trades, which makes it more likely for the team to be blown up. Thank goodness there isn't some kind of forced rebuild clause where the team must trade their franchise cornerstone player in order to regain the "right to acquisition" (ability to sign players using all available contract avenues like mid-level, bi-annual and vets mins, signing and trading draft picks, sending out cash, everything under the sign).

I actually don't know if on the next season, they will have the ability to re-sign players to max contracts in the case of James Harden and Paul George. Extensions are the more likely way, but that puts the player in a bind as they won't be eligible for trades for a whole year. I won't say the Clippers are screwed, just that the circumstances of the 2nd apron will probably force the team to keep the roster as is for the next season. But with everyone in contract years, the Clippers have one chance to get themselves under the 2nd apron and that's by convincing their players to take a paycut. Right now, all of them (except Leonard) are grounds for that.

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