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Re: 2024 Cowboys Off Season 

Post#161 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:18 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:T.V was pretty much a new thing growing up in the 60's. I remember our first T.V. when I was just 6 years old. Black and white only back then. In 1966 we had our first Super bowl. It was something new to all of us. Maybe they Cowboys were just a part of what was new and special back then. Cowboys started out with nothing in their first year. No draft for us. But the point is we became good at the right time in history. Played in out first 2 NFL championship in 1966 against the Packers who were the team of that decade and we took off from there. 3 years later and we had the AFL-NFL merger and went to back to back Super Bowls in the first two years. Went to another 3 more Super bowls before the decade came to an end but just fell short to the Steelers who became the team of that decade after Super Bowl XIII. For 14years the Cowboys were always in the thick of things every year.
Hank Schramm was a grand master of marketing everything Cowboys back then. First and only team that had cheerleaders. They were called the Rockets and were almost as famous as the team itself. Not sure what the T.V. deal was back then, maybe Otis can elaborate more on that as he is a bit older than I am. But growing up as a kid, I always remember the Cowboys always being the double header game almost every week. Back then CBS had the NFC so the Giants were always the local team and the Cowboys were always the double header game. All we had before cable came along was this CBS station and a Canadian on our T.V.'s. Guess that's why we still to this day have so many Cowboy and giants fans in the State Of Maine. Even when we eventually got cable in the mid-70's not much change except NBC who covered the AFC back then also carried their share of Cowboy games for the weekends they had double headers. Can't speak for other states, but the giants and Patriots sucked so bad back them the Cowboy's became everyone's darlings outside the haters. The baby boomer generation just loved the Cowboys. What can I say?

Bjj, not everyone "loved" the Cowboys. :wink:

The Raiders we're kind of THE TEAM out West back in those days. My dad was a Raider fan before Seattle was given a team. Which was not very uncommon. Which is why there are a ton of Raiders fans all along the West Coast.

That's true. Raiders were very popular. But you are talking west coast. I'm talking America. It wasn't that close otherwise Oakland would have been playing on Thanksgiving all those years. :wink:
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Re: 2024 Cowboys Off Season 

Post#162 » by Mr B » Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:02 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:I do wonder how much the cheerleader situation played into it all. I don't think it has much effect today, but back then it probably captured a lot of female fans and then that fandom was handed down to their kids.

I know they tried to rehype the cheerleaders with a reality show and whatnot, my gut feeling is that it didn't do much but maybe I'm off on that.

I forgot to mention that the Cowboys moved to a brand new state of the art facility in 1971. Texas Stadium. First ever stadium to have a built in hospital for the players with shopping malls, restaurants, etc,. They were the first to it setting the standard for the future.

That’s crazy that they didn’t sell alcohol though. Especially when you think of how big beer sponsors are now.
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Re: 2024 Cowboys Off Season 

Post#163 » by Otis Driftwood » Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:26 pm

Mr B wrote:That’s crazy that they didn’t sell alcohol though. Especially when you think of how big beer sponsors are now.


It was a different world… and the Blue Laws pretty much kept that from happening until they changed right around the time Jerry took over the team. I spent many a walk over the Loop 12 bridge lugging a cooler full of frothy beverages from that parking lot back by Central Freight into the stadium. That was actually legal and encouraged. Good times...
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Re: 2024 Cowboys Off Season 

Post#164 » by Mr B » Thu Feb 22, 2024 8:46 pm

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Mr B wrote:That’s crazy that they didn’t sell alcohol though. Especially when you think of how big beer sponsors are now.


It was a different world… and the Blue Laws pretty much kept that from happening until they changed right around the time Jerry took over the team. I spent many a walk over the Loop 12 bridge lugging a cooler full of frothy beverages from that parking lot back by Central Freight into the stadium. That was actually legal and encouraged. Good times...

I’ve walked across that bridge a few times myself back in the 90’s. I live close to where the old Texas Stadium was now. That same sight is where the Mavs new owner wants to build a casino/arena. They purchased that land right after buying the team.
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Re: 2024 Cowboys Off Season 

Post#165 » by bluejerseyjinx » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:53 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:Precisely.

Logically Carroll should've been replaced 2 years ago. At the time, the team was going to make a change at QB & basically turnover a lot of the roster. But he stuck around because he convinced ownership that he could turn things around in short order. But it really wasn't until he gave an indication that retirement could be around the corner that management then decided to pull the plug.

Sounds like what we went through with Jason Garrett. He was the Cowboys coach about 5 years too long. I don’t think he ever had back to back good seasons. Every time it seemed like he would be fired he would have a good season and Jerry would keep him. Jerry was also so upset at losing Sean Payton to the Saints (Jerry kind of got screwed by Bill Parcels) that he was determine to turn Garrett into the next Sean Payton. We ended up with Garrett for 10 years.

Pete also had a ton of leeway because of what he accomplished earlier on in his tenure. Winning a SB. Then when Paul Allen died of Cancer, his sister Jody, took over control of the team & all of his assets. Which gave him more time.

On the Dallas front, McCarthy & his staff should've been replaced after the GB loss. But Jerry seems to have a blind spot for coaches. Either that or his loyalty to those who work for him gets the better of him. Either way, it was a misstep.


Which is one of the biggest factors in the leadership and the culture Jerry has provided the past two decades. Like Otis posted earlier, rinse and repeat. Can't drink the cool aid this upcoming season.
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Post#166 » by bluejerseyjinx » Wed Feb 28, 2024 3:01 pm

And then Stephen Jones backs it all up yesterday stating he feels good about the culture and the leadership is outstanding on the Cowboy front. I guess sunny boy doesn't want to step on daddy's toes and jeopardize him next in line in taking over the team. Just amazes me how the ultra elite look at reality.
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Re: 2024 Cowboys Off Season 

Post#167 » by Cactus Jack » Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:08 pm

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Mr B wrote:Sounds like what we went through with Jason Garrett. He was the Cowboys coach about 5 years too long. I don’t think he ever had back to back good seasons. Every time it seemed like he would be fired he would have a good season and Jerry would keep him. Jerry was also so upset at losing Sean Payton to the Saints (Jerry kind of got screwed by Bill Parcels) that he was determine to turn Garrett into the next Sean Payton. We ended up with Garrett for 10 years.

Pete also had a ton of leeway because of what he accomplished earlier on in his tenure. Winning a SB. Then when Paul Allen died of Cancer, his sister Jody, took over control of the team & all of his assets. Which gave him more time.

On the Dallas front, McCarthy & his staff should've been replaced after the GB loss. But Jerry seems to have a blind spot for coaches. Either that or his loyalty to those who work for him gets the better of him. Either way, it was a misstep.


Which is one of the biggest factors in the leadership and the culture Jerry has provided the past two decades. Like Otis posted earlier, rinse and repeat. Can't drink the cool aid this upcoming season.

You'll be back on the wagon come training camp. :wink:
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Re: 2024 Cowboys Off Season 

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Re: 2024 Cowboys Off Season 

Post#169 » by bluejerseyjinx » Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:28 pm

Another 3 wasted years coming up for the cowboys. Oh well, after 28 years another 3 years ain't much. :ouch: :crazy:
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Re: 2024 Cowboys Off Season 

Post#170 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:23 pm

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Re: 2024 Cowboys Off Season 

Post#171 » by Mr B » Fri Mar 1, 2024 12:04 am

Just wanted to give an update on the Dak extension rumors. Apparently there is a chance that Dak does NOT get his extension. Here is a video that explains it better than I can.

To me this stinks of Stephen as opposed to being a good idea by Jerry. This is not Jerry saying “I think we should go in a new direction and I have a plan!” This is Stephen saying “No way any other team will offer Dak a record breaking contract on the open market. When he doesn’t get what he wants he will come crawling back and we can low ball him!” In reality though they are going to lose Dak without having a plan to replace him OR Dak is going to get over $70M per season because Stephen doesn’t know how to negotiate NFL deals.
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Re: 2024 Cowboys Off Season 

Post#172 » by bluejerseyjinx » Fri Mar 1, 2024 8:50 pm

Mr B wrote:Just wanted to give an update on the Dak extension rumors. Apparently there is a chance that Dak does NOT get his extension. Here is a video that explains it better than I can.

To me this stinks of Stephen as opposed to being a good idea by Jerry. This is not Jerry saying “I think we should go in a new direction and I have a plan!” This is Stephen saying “No way any other team will offer Dak a record breaking contract on the open market. When he doesn’t get what he wants he will come crawling back and we can low ball him!” In reality though they are going to lose Dak without having a plan to replace him OR Dak is going to get over $70M per season because Stephen doesn’t know how to negotiate NFL deals.

The whole thing stinks. Ever since Jerry brought back McCarthy and got Cowboy Nation and others all upset, he said he was "all in". Been trying to really figure out what he means by that. Could mean he is all in on McCarthy, Dak, who the hell knows. Without being specific it could mean a dozen things with Jerry. I think he is afraid to be specific as he continues to do damage control bring McCarthy back.
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Re: 2024 Cowboys Off Season 

Post#173 » by Cactus Jack » Sun Mar 10, 2024 3:51 am

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Re: 2024 Cowboys Off Season 

Post#174 » by Otis Driftwood » Sun Mar 10, 2024 1:48 pm

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I always shake my head at the “permission to seek a trade” thing… because as noted in the tweet, it’s a given they are releasing him. There is no value unless “someone” thinks the guy is a game changer. Gallup is not.
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Re: 2024 Cowboys Off Season 

Post#175 » by Mr B » Sun Mar 10, 2024 4:24 pm

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I always shake my head at the “permission to seek a trade” thing… because as noted in the tweet, it’s a given they are releasing him. There is no value unless “someone” thinks the guy is a game changer. Gallup is not.

Yea they are definitely not getting anything in return for Gallup.
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Re: 2024 Cowboys Off Season 

Post#177 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Mar 11, 2024 11:40 pm

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Re: 2024 Cowboys Off Season 

Post#178 » by Otis Driftwood » Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:42 am

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To be fair, this is how the Cowboys do it annually. So anyone surprised by their lack of action hasn’t been paying attention.
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Re: 2024 Cowboys Off Season 

Post#179 » by Cactus Jack » Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:23 pm

Otis Driftwood wrote:To be fair, this is how the Cowboys do it annually. So anyone surprised by their lack of action hasn’t been paying attention.

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Game changer.
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Post#180 » by Otis Driftwood » Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:03 pm

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Otis Driftwood wrote:To be fair, this is how the Cowboys do it annually. So anyone surprised by their lack of action hasn’t been paying attention.

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Game changer.


Look out NFC Divisional playoff round… here we come!
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