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Jim Buss: 'I'm very disappointed in the season' 

Post#1 » by Jetset » Sat Jun 2, 2012 3:35 pm

An interview that was done Thursday on ESPN radio. Sort of surprised it wasn't posted earlier, a Nets fan had to tell me he had even done one. We're slipping.

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lak ... the-season
The NBA playoffs band continues to play on without the Los Angeles Lakers joining in on the music, and more than a week after their ouster from the Western Conference semifinals, the loss still feels inharmonious to Lakers vice president of player personnel Jim Buss.

“Me personally, I’m never happy unless we win our last game in the playoffs," Buss said in an interview on the "Mason & Ireland Show" on 710 ESPN Radio on Thursday. "I’m very disappointed in the season. I thought we were a better team than this, but you can look at it as this was the first year these guys have played together with this coach.

"There’s a lot of things you can look at and build for the future and say they haven’t had the time to jell like other teams. You watch San Antonio, they can play with their eyes closed because they know exactly where everybody is and what they’re doing and what their quirks are. You see a team that sticks together like that, and we didn’t have that."

The Spurs currently hold a 2-0 lead in the conference finals over the Oklahoma City Thunder, the team that bounced the Lakers from the playoffs.

Here at the Land O' Lakers blog, we've been doling out grades for individual players on the team, but Buss abstained from grading the season as a whole.

"As far as a grade, I really couldn’t put a grade on it," Buss said. "I’m just disappointed. A couple bad passes here and there, I think we didn’t realize how fast they can score on a turnover, and it really put us back on our heels.”

Buss also ran through a variety of other topics surrounding the team during the interview:

On Mike Brown:

"I think he did a fantastic job. ... I want to sit down for a couple hours and go through (if) his influence showed up on the floor, which I think it did. I think it was just unfortunate we lost that series, otherwise we’d still be in it and we’d all think that everything is fantastic."

On the NBA draft:

"Me personally I haven’t seen anything that I would go after to move
up in the draft. ... I haven’t seen anything except for the No. 1 pick,
and of course [the New Orleans Hornets are] not going to give that up."

On Andrew Bynum:

"I think it’s pretty obvious how I feel about Andrew Bynum. He’s an incredible All-Star center, and you can build the future around him. ...

"I keep referring to Phil [Jackson]. Phil said, 'Let the kid grow up.' He’s still young at heart. I don’t know what else to say about him."

On his planned dinner with Bynum:

"I want to get to know the kid off the court, not basketball."

On his father, Lakers owner Jerry Buss:

"He's still on track. He's doing great. Our conversations are longer and sharper. I feel very confident that he’ll probably start going to the games next season."

On the playoffs:

"I do care who wins. I don’t want Boston to win, that’s for sure."
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Post#2 » by ennui » Sat Jun 2, 2012 4:30 pm

I like that he is concerned, but so far the Jim Buss era has been disappointing. Still seems like he loves him some Bynum, almost to a fault. I really hope if we get the chance to acquire Dwight, he doesn't let his feelings for Drew get in the way. It's going to mean no more dinner dates.

This offseason is gonna be crucial for me to determine whether Jim Buss is competent.
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Post#3 » by Asianiac_24 » Sat Jun 2, 2012 5:21 pm

I think his love fest with Bynum is going to cost us down the road. He is our most valuable trade piece and the only trade piece IMO to lift us to the next level.
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Post#4 » by Anklebreaker702 » Sat Jun 2, 2012 5:24 pm

BlunnTashiz wrote:I like that he is concerned, but so far the Jim Buss era has been disappointing. Still seems like he loves him some Bynum, almost to a fault. I really hope if we get the chance to acquire Dwight, he doesn't let his feelings for Drew get in the way. It's going to mean no more dinner dates.

This offseason is gonna be crucial for me to determine whether Jim Buss is competent.

That won't happen. The bigger concern is Howards back right now. Drew was all but gone for Howard but D12 wouldn't agree to sign an extension.

There's no way we give up Bynum to "rent" Howard for a season.
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Post#5 » by Anklebreaker702 » Sat Jun 2, 2012 5:29 pm

Asianiac_24 wrote:I think his love fest with Bynum is going to cost us down the road. He is our most valuable trade piece and the only trade piece IMO to lift us to the next level.

IMO you have to get back what you give up. Howard is the only logical trade piece & he's playing hard ball with us. So I would move Bynum on a wing and a prayer either. Same with Pau. I'm not giving Pau up for peanuts. Pau goes in a come up move just like Drew.
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Post#6 » by dockingsched » Sat Jun 2, 2012 5:58 pm

i still don't understand why people harp on this "bynum love" that is detrimental to this team.

all reports say the lakers were ready to trade bynum for howard, so i can't really think of one report out there where the lakers could have done some awesome trade but refused to give up bynum.
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Post#7 » by Jetset » Sat Jun 2, 2012 7:26 pm

dockingsched wrote:i still don't understand why people harp on this "bynum love" that is detrimental to this team.

all reports say the lakers were ready to trade bynum for howard, so i can't really think of one report out there where the lakers could have done some awesome trade but refused to give up bynum.


This. The Lakers were willing to trade him at the deadline, and I don't see how their mentality could've changed since then. Bynum hasn't done anything for it to do so. If anything, with the recent reports about them being hesitant to invest in him for the future and people just being flat out done with his attitude, it sounds as if Bynum's available even more than ever.
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Post#8 » by milesfides » Sat Jun 2, 2012 8:24 pm

I'm beginning to think that the report of the Lakers' offer of Bynum for Howard is either total B.S. or really troubling.

Why would they risk losing Bynum for D-Ho who reportedly wouldn't sign an ext in LA?
Maybe the Lakers really are fed up with Bynum's attitude, or know something that we don't? If that's the case, perhaps Buss is showcasing Bynum with his effusive praise.

Either way, it's hard to know, considering how unreliable reports are coming out of Orlando, and how tight-lipped the Lakers are.
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Post#9 » by Jetset » Sat Jun 2, 2012 9:21 pm

Either it's true, or every single sports reporter that's tied to a "source" in America and the companies they're employed by have been absolutely wrong. ESPN, NBC, Yahoo, CBS, everyone. Because everyone was reporting the exact same thing, we were still interested in Howard even though he made it known he didn't want to be here, and that we negotiated with Orlando to the point that either Howard waived his ETO or he would've been traded to the Lakers within 24 hours.

It's true, and I have no problem with them going after Howard.
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Post#10 » by Josephpaul » Sat Jun 2, 2012 9:35 pm

I want his take on pau .
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Post#11 » by ShowTimeERA » Sat Jun 2, 2012 11:15 pm

destro wrote:Either it's true, or every single sports reporter that's tied to a "source" in America and the companies they're employed by have been absolutely wrong. ESPN, NBC, Yahoo, CBS, everyone. Because everyone was reporting the exact same thing, we were still interested in Howard even though he made it known he didn't want to be here, and that we negotiated with Orlando to the point that either Howard waived his ETO or he would've been traded to the Lakers within 24 hours.

It's true, and I have no problem with them going after Howard.


From what I gather from the recent Houston report was that LA was tired of waiting for Dwight (since they were held up from making other moves, that's also the reason why the Beasley deal wasn't done) so they moved on. The reason why Dwight waived his ETO was because ORL told him that he was headed to HOU..
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Post#12 » by Jetset » Sat Jun 2, 2012 11:52 pm

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destro wrote:Either it's true, or every single sports reporter that's tied to a "source" in America and the companies they're employed by have been absolutely wrong. ESPN, NBC, Yahoo, CBS, everyone. Because everyone was reporting the exact same thing, we were still interested in Howard even though he made it known he didn't want to be here, and that we negotiated with Orlando to the point that either Howard waived his ETO or he would've been traded to the Lakers within 24 hours.

It's true, and I have no problem with them going after Howard.


From what I gather from the recent Houston report was that LA was tired of waiting for Dwight (since they were held up from making other moves, that's also the reason why the Beasley deal wasn't done) so they moved on. The reason why Dwight waived his ETO was because ORL told him that he was headed to HOU..


Hours after Howard waived his ETO reports started to come out about Orlando threatening to send Howard to the Lakers had he not waived his ETO. And this same exact story was reported everywhere, even on the Wiretap.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball- ... 07659.html
According to league sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity, Orlando brass got fed up with Howard's yes-no-maybe posturing and threatened to trade him to the Lakers, not his desired location, if he did not sign an agreement to waive the opt-out clause for the final season of his contract. Howard eventually signed the papers, but only after he was told "he would be a Laker by the end of the day," according to one source.


And here are two other links to verify this:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Dwig ... ers-040612
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/20 ... t-re-sign/

So I don't know what that Houston report is talking about.


And the part about Beasley is inaccurate. A potential Howard deal isn't the reason as to why the Beasley deal didn't get done, even Mitch said they'd explore other trade possibilities other than the Orlando one. It was Minnesota's owner who vetoed a deal once they found out we were in a 3-way with Portland to acquire Beasley from Minnesota. In fact, I think we were playing Minnesota on the day that a supposed Beasley deal was heating up.

We were in talks to acquire Felton from Portland for Fisher, Portland also had a second deal going in which they were going to send Crawford to Minnesota in exchange for Beasley. I suppose we decided on trading for Sessions and dropped going after Felton, and in exchange we were offering Fisher and a 1st rounder to Portland for Beasley. Minnesota's owner vetoed that trade and we sent Fisher to the Rockets with the 1st that was being dangled in the Beasley trade.

EDIT: Found it

Minnesota Owner Vetoed Beasley To Lakers Trade
Mar 16, 2012 10:57 AM EDT


The Lakers were minutes away from acquiring Michael Beasley, but Minnesota owner Glen Taylor blocked an agreed upon three-team trade before the deadline, according to a source.

Portland also would have been involved with Derek Fisher and Jamal Crawford being other trade components.

The Lakers responded by agreeing to trade Fisher to the Rockets.

Via Mike Bresnahan/Los Angeles Times


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Post#13 » by Jetset » Sun Jun 3, 2012 12:00 am

And here's something I didn't even know about that was in the foxsports link:
Orlando played its trump card. Sources for months maintained Howard wanted no part of the Lakers, that he did not want to follow the legacy of Shaquille O'Neal. Orlando leaders had one other reason for the threat: They favored the Lakers' package of Andrew Bynum, Devin Ebanks and Steve Blake over the Nets' offer.



None of those links say anything about Houston with regards to Howard almost being traded there.
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Post#14 » by chefy » Sun Jun 3, 2012 1:40 am

we def could have done better. problem is our players our pu$$ies
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Post#15 » by hermes » Sun Jun 3, 2012 1:52 am

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Post#16 » by milesfides » Sun Jun 3, 2012 2:07 am

Lol at trusting the media reports re: D-Ho

Even the media themselves (if you have been following hoopshype's media twitter feed) don't even trust what he's saying, and you're trusting their reports? They don't even trust their own reports. Reporters are sick of D-Ho and his camp, they think his credibility is shot, they called the situation in Orlando "toxic", Otis Smith was fired, reportedly on D-Ho's behalf, then D-Ho wants out anyways, etc. etc.

Good luck believing anything that's going on over there. Nobody else does.
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Post#17 » by rockpurple » Sun Jun 3, 2012 2:08 am

destro wrote:And here's something I didn't even know about that was in the foxsports link:
Orlando played its trump card. Sources for months maintained Howard wanted no part of the Lakers, that he did not want to follow the legacy of Shaquille O'Neal. Orlando leaders had one other reason for the threat: They favored the Lakers' package of Andrew Bynum, Devin Ebanks and Steve Blake over the Nets' offer.



None of those links say anything about Houston with regards to Howard almost being traded there.



man....Dwight is a freaking idiot.... what's with this 'follow shaq'' nonsense..??? Shaq followed Kareem, who followed Chamberlain, who followed Mikan.... I can't believe Fegan allowed that child to screw that up..
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Post#18 » by Jetset » Sun Jun 3, 2012 2:28 am

milesfides wrote:Lol at trusting the media reports re: D-Ho

Even the media themselves (if you have been following hoopshype's media twitter feed) don't even trust what he's saying, and you're trusting their reports? They don't even trust their own reports. Reporters are sick of D-Ho and his camp, they think his credibility is shot, they called the situation in Orlando "toxic", Otis Smith was fired, reportedly on D-Ho's behalf, then D-Ho wants out anyways, etc. etc.

Good luck believing anything that's going on over there. Nobody else does.


So you're bashing reporters yet you're citing reporters as a means to bash the reporters. Oh okay.

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destro wrote:And here's something I didn't even know about that was in the foxsports link:
Orlando played its trump card. Sources for months maintained Howard wanted no part of the Lakers, that he did not want to follow the legacy of Shaquille O'Neal. Orlando leaders had one other reason for the threat: They favored the Lakers' package of Andrew Bynum, Devin Ebanks and Steve Blake over the Nets' offer.



None of those links say anything about Houston with regards to Howard almost being traded there.



man....Dwight is a freaking idiot.... what's with this 'follow shaq'' nonsense..??? Shaq followed Kareem, who followed Chamberlain, who followed Mikan.... I can't believe Fegan allowed that child to screw that up..


Fegan's tied to the Barclays center, he wants Howard to end up there. It's looking as if they may have to prepare for a plan B though.
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Post#19 » by LAKESHOW » Sun Jun 3, 2012 3:17 am

criticize Jim Buss? sure, it comes with the territory when your dealing with "OUR TEAM"

but, we cannot TOTALLY jump on the dude, he had made efforts. he had made maneuvers, for example, chris paul, that was a move that of course we all know what happened.

now the jury is still out, so im givin some leeway here, but WE MUST GET MORE TOP NOTCH ATHLETES! we get a dwight. or deron. or another superstar, we will be back on the hunt for #17!!
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Post#20 » by XXIV » Sun Jun 3, 2012 3:21 am

LAKESHOW wrote:criticize Jim Buss? sure, it comes with the territory when your dealing with "OUR TEAM"

but, we cannot TOTALLY jump on the dude, he had made efforts. he had made maneuvers, for example, chris paul, that was a move that of course we all know what happened.

now the jury is still out, so im givin some leeway here, but WE MUST GET MORE TOP NOTCH ATHLETES! we get a dwight. or deron. or another superstar, we will be back on the hunt for #17!!


I'm more annoyed of the fact that he is blinded by his own ego, and it appears he would rather risk the success of the team than admit/fix his mistakes.
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