We have to ask ourselves if Mitch lost his touch.

[KobeKenobi]

Mitch had a great run and no question that the franchise probably should have a statue of him next to Magic and Kareem...and retire his name on the wall. Mitch is HOF.....legendary GM.

I just think Mitch lost his touch somewhere down the line. I know we won 2 rings just 5 years ago...I know. Yes the CP3 trade set us back big time and Mitch did everything he could to bounce back. Mitch should of known getting Nash was a mistake however. Most of us didn't know...but I think he really of should have know not to get Nash. He should of been the sensible one to know that he is getting too up there in age for that kind of contract.

I also think it was obvious Mitch should of went after Jameer Nelson. Remember this post?

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We needed redundancy at the PG position since Nash is near broke from what happened last season. Clarkson isn't ready to lead at the point. Lin is fine, but Jameer would of given this team a good heady PG that could shoot the ball.

Now look where we are. Nash literally has a fork in him. Clarkson and Lin have injury issues. Nelson would of been the perfect backup PG for Lin. And while I like Price, if Lin goes down at any point in the season we are literally screwed.

And why keep Wesley Johnson? It makes no sense....

[Sofa King]

We should get another point guard. We drafted Clarkson, but he's more of a shooting guard now.

I think we'll be fine when Lin gets back. Clarkson should add another scoring option off the bench.

It's a fragile team. Any injury could set us back.

We'll have to look for the D-League to fill up the roster.

[ChokeFasncists]

Sacre needs to be more careful. Lin should be OK. Nelson's pretty old anyways. It's really too bad Marshall had to be waived, couldn't Boozer's bid be a bit lower or something?

[Mirjalovic]

Yeah, mitch lost his touch.

The big evident is he unable to think if its all Sacre fault.

[5ertwenty]

Are you serious? Mitch has lost his touch?! Kobe, Bynum, Marc, Pau, CP3, Dwight, Nash - what's that, like 7 all-stars he's been able to "acquire"? This is just brilliant IMO, compared to other GM's, he's on an other level. The bad luck is what's got in the way of success. How can you blame Mitch for the Chris Paul veto, the Dwight debacle and the Nash injury? You just can't. And even this off-season: getting Lin for basically nothing was vintage Kupchack.

The only real "errors" of judgement have been the coaching choices - but when you're trying to replace the GOAT Phil Jackson, every attempt to fill his seat looks like a blunder, especially when the said coach hasn't got a healthy team to work with.

I don't think Kupchack has lost his touch. I do not blame any of the misfortunes on Mitch. I just think we've had a most unfortunate string of bad luck - that's it.

Mitch is the best. Peace.

[Tiesto_Lakers]

I'm not saying he lost his touch, but if you were to tell me in 2010 that Gasol, Odom and Bynum would all be off the team four years later and replaced with virtually no one, I would be thinking twice about Mitch's ability to build a contender.

[Michael Lucky]

Mitch has nothing to work with. No GM in the world could possibly be successful in his position. The new CBA has literally destroyed any advantage the Lakers previously enjoyed through their market. On top of it they are stuck with aging stars and in an era where you basically need a young star in order to attract other max contract player. The lakers are in a bad position to upgrade quickly. Thank the new cba for that. Heck the whole Nash trade was a means to appease Dr. Buss. Nothing Mitch can do about that when his owner is making the moves for him. The next couple of years will be bad and there's nothing anyone could do about it. Let's just hope we can rebuild well through the draft and get lucky in FA.

[AdonisDeMarion]

Are you serious? Mitch has lost his touch?! Kobe, Bynum, Marc, Pau, CP3, Dwight, Nash - what's that, like 7 all-stars he's been able to "acquire"? This is just brilliant IMO, compared to other GM's, he's on an other level. The bad luck is what's got in the way of success. How can you blame Mitch for the Chris Paul veto, the Dwight debacle and the Nash injury? You just can't. And even this off-season: getting Lin for basically nothing was vintage Kupchack.

The only real "errors" of judgement have been the coaching choices - but when you're trying to replace the GOAT Phil Jackson, every attempt to fill his seat looks like a blunder, especially when the said coach hasn't got a healthy team to work with.

I don't think Kupchack has lost his touch. I do not blame any of the misfortunes on Mitch. I just think we've had a most unfortunate string of bad luck - that's it.





Mitch is the best. Peace.

AMEN

[Marionettetc]

I think you're overvaluing just what a general manager can do given present circumstances, and undervaluing how much of the business is out of anyone's control.

A well run organization can put itself in a position to win, but it can't will itself to just have the best players and a 82-0 record every year.

It's unreasonable to expect the Lakers to have the best talent in the league every year.

[Pointgod]

I'm not sure that it's Mitch losing his touch than Jim Buss having no direction. The problem with the Lakers is that they're all or nothing with when it comes to building a team. They expect superstars to just beg to play for them. That's not realistic. You can't tell me this team wouldn't be better off in the short term and future with Lance Stephenson over Jordan Hill

[DEEP3CL]

The new CBA has literally destroyed any advantage the Lakers previously enjoyed through their market.

The day the league signed that thing into effect, I tracked the teams that were on top prior to that CBA. Every one of them are in destitute mode because of that CBA. I'm all for a lockout in 2017, I don't give a damn if there is no ball. More than just player salaries will change with that. Remember not all of the owners was on board with that CBA.

Most of us didn't know...but I think he really of should have know not to get Nash. He should of been the sensible one to know that he is getting too up there in age for that kind of contract.

I knew and was spitting it all over this board that we didn't need Nash, he was busted up in his last season in Phoenix. And people love giving the Phoenix medical staff all these props for being the best, hell not even them could save his bust body.

but if you were to tell me in 2010 that Gasol, Odom and Bynum would all be off the team four years later and replaced with virtually no one,

Not true on Bynum, he was replaced.....we just don't have the coward here to show for it. Gasol is 34 years old, he was bottoming out anyways most big do after 32-33 anyway. Only the Odom deal was a push for nothing.

[snaquille oatmeal]

DEEP even the Odom move was brilliant in my opinion considering what happened to him

[Marionettetc]

I agree with what you have to say Deep.

I think a lot of our fellow fans are a bit spoiled when it comes to team success. You generally don't turn a team around overnight, and I think it's way too early to jump the gun on calling for management's collective heads.

I'm happy with the direction the team is heading towards. We're trying to make moves that better the team and making the best of the current roster. At a certain point we all need to just chill and enjoy basketball. The team is what it is, and will improve. There's really no need to start questioning Mitch, of all people, the dude who is clearly one of the top GMs in the league just because we aren't loaded with four all stars and a deep bench.

[ChokeFasncists]

He did kinda take excessive risk with the Dwight thing, but how is Bynum doing?

[DEEP3CL]

DEEP even the Odom move was brilliant in my opinion considering what happened to him

Well in terms of where LO is now and kinda seeing where he was heading even before leaving us...then yeah it was genius.

But when I look at deals, I try to see how the team can sustain some type of run from it. Now we shipped LO to the Mavs for a #1 pick which was protected if it landed in the top 20 spots. It ended up being #21 (Mitch McGary) and we eventually sent the pick to Houston, the Rockets sent it to OKC to finish off the Harden deal.

So we got nothing basically, but I don't blame Mitch for that. LO was sliding down hill even before he left here.We wasn't going to get much more for LO than we did at the time Mitch originally shipped him off in most controversial deal ever blown up by a commissioner.

[DEEP3CL]

To people wondering if Mitch lost his touch,I hate rehashing it but.....

Los Angeles Lakers: PG Chris Paul (from NO Hornets)

New Orleans Hornets: F Lamar Odom (from LA Lakers), SG Kevin Martin (from HOU Rockets), PF Luis Scola (from HOU Rockets), PG Goran Dragic (from HOU Rockets)

Houston Rockets: PF Pau Gasol (from LA Lakers)

And people had the never to say the Hornets got whacked ?....Bull chit, that was a playoff team hands down.

It was a deal where everybody came up roses. Now comparing that to what the Hornets eventually ended up with, only Eric Gordon remains and he's still trying to get out of NO only because he doesn't like Monty Williams. And the Hornets while steadily improving are still a long ways off from doing any damage.

[Jakay]

Keep in mind West seemed like he was in a deep rut and went to Memphis and made them relevant out of nowhere. All GMs go through their fair share of bad times. Only Buford has been exempt due to the longevity of their three main guys plus Pop, but he's not immune either.

[AdonisDeMarion]

To people wondering if Mitch lost his touch,I hate rehashing it but.....

Los Angeles Lakers: PG Chris Paul (from NO Hornets)

New Orleans Hornets: F Lamar Odom (from LA Lakers), SG Kevin Martin (from HOU Rockets), PF Luis Scola (from HOU Rockets), PG Goran Dragic (from HOU Rockets)

Houston Rockets: PF Pau Gasol (from LA Lakers)

And people had the never to say the Hornets got whacked ?....Bull chit, that was a playoff team hands down.

It was a deal where everybody came up roses. Now comparing that to what the Hornets eventually ended up with, only Eric Gordon remains and he's still trying to get out of NO only because he doesn't like Monty Williams. And the Hornets while steadily improving are still a long ways off from doing any damage.

preach

[desertlakerfan]

It's funny how a top tier GM suddenly "loses his touch" after a new owner takes over the reigns.

[Kilroy]

This thread is reactionary and going nowhere...