The Official 2015 Offseason Free Agency Thread

[TylersLakers]

Maybe we should use the cap space on Danny Green and Tyson Chandler, two good defensive players that have won rings? Then, Boozer with the room exception. This is after drafting Russell, Anderson and Upshaw

Pf-randle, boozer, Kelly
Sf-Green, Anderson
C-Chandler, Black, Upshaw
Pg-Russell, Clarkson, buyks
Sg-Bryant, Young, Brown

Geez, how much money would you be paying Green and Chandler in that situation?

I wouldn't mind..

- Danny Green, 4 years, 35M
- Tyson Chandler, 2 year, 8M

Then accept Jordan Hill's option.

- Room exception on Thomas Robinson
- Draft Russell, Hollis-Jefferson, Michael Frazier
- Vet min on Ronnie Price

PG: D'Angelo Russell/ Jordan Clarkson/ Ronnie Price/
SG: Kobe Bryant/ Nick Young/ Michael Frazier/
SF: Danny Green/ Rondae Hollis-Jefferson/ Jabari Brown/
PF: Julius Randle/ Thomas Robinson/ Ryan Kelly
C: Tyson Chandler/ Jordan Hill/Tarik Black/

[scoobs07]

Maybe we should use the cap space on Danny Green and Tyson Chandler, two good defensive players that have won rings? Then, Boozer with the room exception. This is after drafting Russell, Anderson and Upshaw

Pf-randle, boozer, Kelly
Sf-Green, Anderson
C-Chandler, Black, Upshaw
Pg-Russell, Clarkson, buyks
Sg-Bryant, Young, Brown

Geez, how much money would you be paying Green and Chandler in that situation?

I wouldn't mind..

- Danny Green, 4 years, 35M
- Tyson Chandler, 2 year, 8M

Then accept Jordan Hill's option.

- Room exception on Thomas Robinson
- Draft Russell, Hollis-Jefferson, Michael Frazier
- Vet min on Ronnie Price

PG: D'Angelo Russell/ Jordan Clarkson/ Ronnie Price/
SG: Kobe Bryant/ Nick Young/ Michael Frazier/
SF: Danny Green/ Rondae Hollis-Jefferson/ Jabari Brown/
PF: Julius Randle/ Thomas Robinson/ Ryan Kelly
C: Tyson Chandler/ Jordan Hill/Tarik Black/

With the cap going up drastically in the summer of 2016, I think we are going to see a lot of players getting over paid this offseason. If we have 22 million in room and we are not able to make a big splash, then we could at least apease Kobe and "sell" the average Laker fan two championship nba starters. We would be talking at lease 4years/48mill in for Green and 2years/20 mill for Chandler.

[ALL HAIL]

That's too much green for Green.

I've been saying this years, a team of untradeable contracts is far worse than a team that is talent-stricken.

I'd rather pay Jared Dudley 5 mill a year or DeMarre Carroll 8 mill a year.

Twelve million a year for Green is just too much, irregardless of the cap increase.

[scoobs07]

The cap is estimated to go up to between 85-90 million in 16-17. 12,000,000 is 14% of that. That is like 9,000,0000 with the current 66,000,000 cap, which isn't too bad for a championship pedigree 3 and D wing like Green, who will still only be 28 next season.

[miggs]

9m a year for Green is too much AND not a player I'm willing to pay. The increase in cap over the next few years will be crucial to turning this franchise around, we have to be very careful how that money is used.

[TylersLakers]

That's too much green for Green.

I've been saying this years, a team of untradeable contracts is far worse than a team that is talent-stricken.

I'd rather pay Jared Dudley 5 mill a year or DeMarre Carroll 8 mill a year.

Twelve million a year for Green is just too much, irregardless of the cap increase.

^^^^ Bingo. I would LOVE Danny Green for 7-9M a season, anything drastically over that and you're just making a foolish decision.

[Westbreezy]

9m a year for Green is too much AND not a player I'm willing to pay. The increase in cap over the next few years will be crucial to turning this franchise around, we have to be very careful how that money is used.

What? A wing player with championship experience playing in a motion offense who is one of the best man defenders and 3 point shooters in the league is an overpay at $9 million in a league where the cap will increase massively? You guys are crazy, Danny Green is a rare and useful commodity in our league. Think of how many SG/SFs either only play defense with no offensive game to speak of, or are good at spacing the floor but terrible defenders? Green is a great defender and a great 3 point shooter (42% from 3 on nearly 6 attempts per game)

He's an incredible role player to have. $9-$10 mil per year is a good price to pay someone like him in TODAYS salary cap environment, he'll be one of the best bargain contracts in two years when the cap dictates that the MLE is around $8 million.

I also love Kris Middleton for similar reasons (and he's only 23!). It'll probably take a 4 year $56 million ($14 mil/yr) deal for Milwaukee not to match him though.

[miggs]

I don't disagree with you on the quality of player he is, however, we aren't the Spurs, who have Timmy, Tony, Manu plus the emergence of Kawhi and Splitter's pleasant development, to surround Green. He definitely benefits from the system he's playing in and has not shown much of an ability to create his own shots, often he gets those open looks which he's deadly at, as he moves very well without the ball.

However, we'd be paying him 9m on a squad with very little identity thus far, for a guy who is best suited on competitive squads and not rebuilders, typical Pop kind of player. Plus, we'd be more than doubling his salary for a guy who's 28 in June, won't be getting any better AND for all reasons mentioned, doesn't fit at all with the implied intention of the front office, who was quoted as saying they wouldn't acquire players to help them win now if it compromises their future, and I can tell you for 100% certain, Danny Green at 9m/yr is one major step in compromising our future.

We're better suited giving that money to Wes Matthews who I believe will recover well from his achilles injury, for the simple reason that like Green, Matthews doesn't use his athleticism much in his game, mostly just an all motor kind of guy. At this point though, even I'm off the Wes Matthews wagon I once was solely on it seemed post achilles, but in the last few weeks my thoughts are we should stay young and bring in vets to help our rooks come along well.

[miggs]

Middleton I REALLY like, though I agree, it'll take a huge overpayment on his salary for milwaukee not to match. considering they haven't even had jabari parker this year, they've come along nicely as well, and Middleton I feel is a big part of that along with the Alphabet (I like that nickname for Giannis over the Greek Freak).

[ALL HAIL]

9m a year for Green is too much AND not a player I'm willing to pay. The increase in cap over the next few years will be crucial to turning this franchise around, we have to be very careful how that money is used.

What? A wing player with championship experience playing in a motion offense who is one of the best man defenders and 3 point shooters in the league is an overpay at $9 million in a league where the cap will increase massively? You guys are crazy, Danny Green is a rare and useful commodity in our league. Think of how many SG/SFs either only play defense with no offensive game to speak of, or are good at spacing the floor but terrible defenders? Green is a great defender and a great 3 point shooter (42% from 3 on nearly 6 attempts per game)

He's an incredible role player to have. $9-$10 mil per year is a good price to pay someone like him in TODAYS salary cap environment, he'll be one of the best bargain contracts in two years when the cap dictates that the MLE is around $8 million.

I also love Kris Middleton for similar reasons (and he's only 23!). It'll probably take a 4 year $56 million ($14 mil/yr) deal for Milwaukee not to match him though.

If you read back a few posts, you'll notice that scoops suggested paying Green 12 mill for four years, to which I made the appropriate response.

At 12 mill, that's too much for Green. At 9 mill, I agree, it's very doable. I'm not sure I would, but I'd definitely lean that direction as long as the years weren't long.

Danny Green, I think, is very attainable.

If the Lakers tender Kawhi Leonard a max offer, then the Spurs match, they make then give serious pause to dolling out (almost) another 10 mill on a role player, albeit a very important one.

Make no mistake though, I agree with you ... DeMarre Carroll as well, same boat.

[aaron_gray]

Why would you pay a 3 and d guy after they make it big? The place to look for shooting and defense is in the dumpster, not the apple store right after the new iPhone comes out.

[ratedrdb]

winslow will be better than Kawhi.... this is a fact and will be cheaper so we can get Monroe...
pg-clarkson-Norm Powell????
sg-kobe--brown--byucks
sf-winslow-johson
pf-love-davis
c-Monroe-black--Darki Johnson???
we have to trade randle for Monroe and hill/young for love
elington I would like to keep but not sure we can
with Houston pick we can get either Darki Johnson or Norm Powell or R J Hunter or Gary Paytons son

[larry14r]

winslow will be better than Kawhi.... this is a fact and will be cheaper so we can get Monroe...
pg-clarkson-Norm Powell????
sg-kobe--brown--byucks
sf-winslow-johson
pf-love-davis
c-Monroe-black--Darki Johnson???
we have to trade randle for Monroe and hill/young for love
elington I would like to keep but not sure we can
with Houston pick we can get either Darki Johnson or Norm Powell or R J Hunter or Gary Paytons son

I don't think either team will agree to this sign and trade deals. Also the front line defense will be awful.

[ratedrdb]

I know but unless they want nothing in return and the player is willing to sign 1 year deals and re-up when the salary cap goes up I think we have a chance...

[ratedrdb]

but still that's a very good 5 and when westbrook comes up kobe leaves making it able to get him and slide Clarkson over to the 2

[LApwnd]

winslow will be better than Kawhi.... this is a fact and will be cheaper so we can get Monroe...
pg-clarkson-Norm Powell????
sg-kobe--brown--byucks
sf-winslow-johson
pf-love-davis
c-Monroe-black--Darki Johnson???
we have to trade randle for Monroe and hill/young for love
elington I would like to keep but not sure we can
with Houston pick we can get either Darki Johnson or Norm Powell or R J Hunter or Gary Paytons son

if you're not from the future you can't say Winslow will be better than Kawhi and say its FACT

[One Love]

Once again, we are talking about the Lakers paying a SF the max (Leonard) or Green $7 to $9 million instead if drafting Stanley or Winslow who has a more rounded game, is younger & will coast 1/3rd as much... The draft is simple, assuming we stay at 4/5... Take Stanley or Winslow & lock in a top 5 defender, rebounder and passer at SF for the next 10 years... Grab a big in free agency (Monroe, Asik or Kanter) & fill the roster with picks and role players... The NBA has changed & we need to change with them... GS starts Bogut, Cavs start Mozgov, etc... We don't need a dominate low post player...

[crazyeights]

winslow will be better than Kawhi.... this is a fact and will be cheaper so we can get Monroe...
pg-clarkson-Norm Powell????
sg-kobe--brown--byucks
sf-winslow-johson
pf-love-davis
c-Monroe-black--Darki Johnson???
we have to trade randle for Monroe and hill/young for love
elington I would like to keep but not sure we can
with Houston pick we can get either Darki Johnson or Norm Powell or R J Hunter or Gary Paytons son

Randle for Monroe? Who is going to be a UFA? What a horrible move. Seriously, man. Wow.

[Hector_Reyes_8]

I want us to sign Kawhi just so we can shut up Kawhi M8 honestly.... That guy's annoying as hell.

[LApwnd]

I want us to sign Kawhi just so we can shut up Kawhi M8 honestly.... That guy's annoying as hell.

have to offer him the MAX as soon as FA starts, this will put a wrench in SA FA plan. They'll only have like 3 days or so to match, I believe if they match and Duncan/Manu doesn't retire they wont have cap space to go after Marc.