Lakers Trade Ideas Discussion

[Slava]

To get started, something I created for the trade board.

Lakers Trade: Lou Williams + Anthony Brown (Just to make salary match on the trade machine)
Lakers Receive: Brandan Wright + Marco Belinelli

Kings Trade: Ben McLemore + Marco Belinelli
Kings Receive: Tony Allen + Jarrell Martin + Vince Carter's non-guaranteed contract

Grizzlies Trade: Tony Allen + Vince Carter + Jarrell Martin
Grizzlies Receive: Lou Williams + Ben McLemore + Anthony Brown

Lakers trade a scorer they don't need, get a center/back up who's been productive on a good deal, a SG with size who fits better with Russell and Clarkson.

Kings get some salary relief from Belinelli's deal, move McLemore for much needed perimeter defense and a high energy PF.

Memphis add some much needed shooting and scoring off the bench. If McLemore works out under Joerger, he's a very good fit for their starting unit.

[TylersLakers]

To get started, something I created for the trade board.

Lakers Trade: Lou Williams + Anthony Brown (Just to make salary match on the trade machine)
Lakers Receive: Brandan Wright + Marco Belinelli

Kings Trade: Ben McLemore + Marco Belinelli
Kings Receive: Tony Allen + Jarrell Martin + Vince Carter's non-guaranteed contract

Grizzlies Trade: Tony Allen + Vince Carter + Jarrell Martin
Grizzlies Receive: Lou Williams + Ben McLemore + Anthony Brown

Lakers trade a scorer they don't need, get a center/back up who's been productive on a good deal, a SG with size who fits better with Russell and Clarkson.

Kings get some salary relief from Belinelli's deal, move McLemore for much needed perimeter defense and a high energy PF.

Memphis add some much needed shooting and scoring off the bench. If McLemore works out under Joerger, he's a very good fit for their starting unit.

I don't know if I'd be totally into Brandon Wright as his salary is guaranteed for the next two seasons around 6M, but getting Belinelli would definitely make it worth it and fill an eventual need in free agency as a 4th guard.

EDIT: Also, say we get the 1st pick and pick Ben Simmons. Let's come up with the best Randle trade scenarios.

I came up with a sign and trade involving Randle and Clarkson (S&T) for Bradley Beal (S&T -- Max) and Markeiff Morris: We would have the cap space to absorb the salary and we get a player in Beal who's probably a more natural fit next to Russell. Most weren't too happy about this deal for the Lakers, so what does everyone else think?

[Slava]

I wouldn't want those Morris dudes anywhere near this franchise. Bradley Beal is a bit of a health risk and already has minutes restrictions at 22.

[Spens1]

If We get simmons i still say train him as a S.F just due to his sheer athleticism. No reason he couldn't play the 3 outside of his rubbish shot, anyway for Randle trade's, i doubt anyone else really values him (which sucks cause he will probably average a double-double again next season, more like 16/12 actually)

To Minnesota:
Julius Randle
Larry Nance Jr
Anthony Brown
Future First Round Pick

To Lakers:
Andrew Wiggins
Nikola Pekovic

Wiggins at S.F and Russell at S.G seems like a good start. They'll get a front court partner for KAT that works for them. Taking on Pek is basically a necessary evil here. No way they do this straight up, it still gives us enough cap space i think for 2 max players, if not stretch Nick Young and that certainly gives us 2 max players again.

Depending on who gets 2nd I'd even offer Randle for the 2nd just to see how close it actually is (i mean if we needed to add a guy like LNJ i would do it certainly)

Then the big one

To Lakers:
DeMarcus Cousins

To Sacramento:
Julius Randle
Jordan Clarkson
Larry Nance Jr

[WVlakerfan]

Lakers nation has a new article about cousins being shopped. Personally I think he's a bit risky and would only give up 1 of the core three and the pick for. Add in anybody else except Nance to the deal to make it work if need be. I just don't think he is worth 2 players and what could be another cornerstone player in the pick for a guy with authority issues and is a free agent in 2 years.

[Slava]

Randle + Clarkson + #2 for Cousins is likely the most we'd be comfortable offering for Cousins and that's likely the kind of package Kings would be willing to start negotiating as well.

A core of Cousins/Nance/Russell will likely give us a ton of legitimacy in free agency as well.

[TheHartBreakKid]

Randle/Clarkson/Pick for Cousins and I'll also do it. Kings ask for Russell and there is no way in hell (which is why all the people who have been hating on Mitch annoy me recently......I have no doubt in my mind he wouldn't overpay for Cousins.)

Russell/Nance and Cousins is good enough to atleast make a pitch for Durant, and definitely good enough to bring Derozan back. Then we have a lot of flexibility in 17/18.

[Slava]

You lost me at Derozan. Mitch doesn't often end up on the wrong end of superstar trades. That is one thing I'm confident about.

[moonpie]

DeRozan will take a look at us regardless of what we do.

[TheHartBreakKid]

You lost me at Derozan. Mitch doesn't often end up on the wrong end of superstar trades. That is one thing I'm confident about.

Don't get me wrong......I wouldn't really want Derozan...but I think if we somehow get Cousins and not sign Durant, we are going to do everything we can to get an allstar level talent, even if it's a flawed player in Derozan. Can't have Cousins run with 2nd year players all year......especially with a new (and probably rookie) coach. The losing and chemistry would take a big hit.





But yeah, regarding Mitch, definitely. He would wait and wait and let someone else get the guy instead of overpaying. His FA signings have been criticized (I'm not sure why), but I think know can dispute his trading and negotiations.

[gts1]

Good chance there's going to be a ton of moves this summer, nearly every team has cap room that'll take the matching salaries part of a trade out of the equation for the most part... Teams with quality players they're looking to move will have lots of offers thrown they're way... Just like FA's are going to get overpaid because of the glut of money teams with tradeable assets are going to be calling the shots...

Going to be a few teams going nuts financially and locking themselves into bad contracts...

[ALL HAIL]

Randle/Clarkson/Pick for Cousins and I'll also do it. Kings ask for Russell and there is no way in hell (which is why all the people who have been hating on Mitch annoy me recently......I have no doubt in my mind he wouldn't overpay for Cousins.)

Russell/Nance and Cousins is good enough to atleast make a pitch for Durant, and definitely good enough to bring Derozan back. Then we have a lot of flexibility in 17/18.

Assuming it's possible, which I think it may be, wouldn't it be much more efficient to trade Randle and filler (no '16 pick) for Okafor than to trade Randle and the pick for Cousins -- cheaper too?

[TheHartBreakKid]

DeRozan will take a look at us regardless of what we do.

He'll take a look, but without a star player I'm not sure if he would sign, and I'm definitely sure I wouldn't want him without another star player. Like I said, even with Cousins throwing Derozan the Max is an iffy move....One that I think the FO would make, regardless of how we feel about it

[scoobs07]

Three team trade:

Lakers get: Cousins

Kings get: #2, #13, #32, 2020 Lakers 1st and Randle

Suns get: Nance

Why for Lakers?

We form an inside/outside combo of Cousins/Russell. This also makes us a better free agent destination. Shows we are serious to win now, etc.

Why for Kings?

They get a bunch of assets for Cousins. Basically get to build a team from scratch. Not sure if this going to help them with their new arena though. If Simmons is there, he makes a big splash. I don't think Ingram makes as big of a splash though...

Why for Suns?

They have multiple picks, so why not take a chance on an exciting, athletic pf who's dad is a former Suns star?

[scoobs07]

Randle/Clarkson/Pick for Cousins and I'll also do it. Kings ask for Russell and there is no way in hell (which is why all the people who have been hating on Mitch annoy me recently......I have no doubt in my mind he wouldn't overpay for Cousins.)

Russell/Nance and Cousins is good enough to atleast make a pitch for Durant, and definitely good enough to bring Derozan back. Then we have a lot of flexibility in 17/18.

Assuming it's possible, which I think it may be, wouldn't it be much more efficient to trade Randle and filler (no '16 pick) for Okafor than to trade Randle and the pick for Cousins -- cheaper too?

I hear ya, but Cousins is way better than Okafor (right now). He spreads the floor way better, is a better rebounder and has more star power.

[TheHartBreakKid]

Randle/Clarkson/Pick for Cousins and I'll also do it. Kings ask for Russell and there is no way in hell (which is why all the people who have been hating on Mitch annoy me recently......I have no doubt in my mind he wouldn't overpay for Cousins.)

Russell/Nance and Cousins is good enough to atleast make a pitch for Durant, and definitely good enough to bring Derozan back. Then we have a lot of flexibility in 17/18.

Assuming it's possible, which I think it may be, wouldn't it be much more efficient to trade Randle and filler (no '16 pick) for Okafor than to trade Randle and the pick for Cousins -- cheaper too?

edit: misunderstood your post my bad


Not a fan of Okafor...but also doubt they would trade him for Randle and filler. But if a move like that was possible, it would depend on the direction the FO wants to go. If you want to sign stars now, like the Durants and the Westbrooks, you need a player like Cousins to be attractive. If you want to go for a youth movement in the next couple of years, then I suppose Okafor/Simmons or Ingram is more valuable than just Cousins, but again, there is no way the Sixers trade Okafor for Randle. If we don't make a big move and we keep our pick, I rather just draft Ingram and hang on to Julius anyways.

[SlimShady83]

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6684775

Lakers out:
Lou Williams
Nick Young
Julius Randle

Kings out:
D.Cousins.

Why for kings? They have recently been said to get rid of Cousin's and can be on the trading block, Kings I also feel would do better having some sorcerer's on the team and with Lou and Young who needs a change would benefit from that. They also get someone of the likes of randle who is a future double, double machine and still being young and they can develop him. Rondo only has a a few more years left and someone like Lou could be a great replacement.

Why for Lakers. WE/La are looking for a star player and I'm doubting many FA's will want to come having a Cousin's would help and keeping this year's top 3 pick with Russell and Clarkson plus a tone of money will do wonders we also keep Lance as a great back upto our top pic if we get it.

C: Cousins
PF: Simons/Ingram
SF: Derozen
SG: Clarkson
PG: Russell
Edit: if Derozen is more of a SG then we can move him there and put Clarkson on the bench for 6th man and run with Lance,T.black huertas etc

Still have a tone of money left over maybe even throw in a future pick and some money along with cousins < still prefer Whitside or hafford though.

[ALL HAIL]

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6684775

Lakers out:
Lou Williams
Nick Young
Julius Randle

Kings out:
D.Cousins.

Why for kings? They have recently been said to get rid of Cousin's and can be on the trading block, Kings I also feel would do better having some sorcerer's on the team and with Lou and Young who needs a change would benefit from that. They also get someone of the likes of randle who is a future double, double machine and still being young and they can develop him. Rondo only has a a few more years left and someone like Lou could be a great replacement.

Why for Lakers. WE/La are looking for a star player and I'm doubting many FA's will want to come having a Cousin's would help and keeping this year's top 3 pick with Russell and Clarkson plus a tone of money will do wonders we also keep Lance as a great back upto our top pic if we get it.

C: Cousins
PF: Simons/Ingram
SF: Derozen
SG: Clarkson
PG: Russell
Edit: if Derozen is more of a SG then we can move him there and put Clarkson on the bench for 6th man and run with Lance,T.black huertas etc

Still have a tone of money left over maybe even throw in a future pick and some money along with cousins < still prefer Whitside or hafford though.

Very, very wishful thinking. You know there are 28 other teams who can make offers too, right?

[SlimShady83]

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6684775

Lakers out:
Lou Williams
Nick Young
Julius Randle

Kings out:
D.Cousins.

Why for kings? They have recently been said to get rid of Cousin's and can be on the trading block, Kings I also feel would do better having some sorcerer's on the team and with Lou and Young who needs a change would benefit from that. They also get someone of the likes of randle who is a future double, double machine and still being young and they can develop him. Rondo only has a a few more years left and someone like Lou could be a great replacement.

Why for Lakers. WE/La are looking for a star player and I'm doubting many FA's will want to come having a Cousin's would help and keeping this year's top 3 pick with Russell and Clarkson plus a tone of money will do wonders we also keep Lance as a great back upto our top pic if we get it.

C: Cousins
PF: Simons/Ingram
SF: Derozen
SG: Clarkson
PG: Russell
Edit: if Derozen is more of a SG then we can move him there and put Clarkson on the bench for 6th man and run with Lance,T.black huertas etc

Still have a tone of money left over maybe even throw in a future pick and some money along with cousins < still prefer Whitside or hafford though.

Very, very wishful thinking. You know there are 28 other teams who can make offers too, right?

No ****! haha. Wasn't it just last year or the year b4 the Lakers came extremely close to getting a deal done but the kings said No in the end as they didn't want to trade Cousins, but now they do - so things could be different as for the Center position I want - Whitside,Hafford or Cousins or it's bust for me. I just hope we can keep Clarkson/Russell. Don't mind trading Randle but we'll need to keep Lance and hopefully get that top 3 pic and keep that. I wouldn't trade 1 or 2 pic if it lands there.

[ArC_man]

We're not trading top 3 pick + Clarkson + Randle for Cousins, it's something I won't even consider. If we're trading away our young players, I want Jimmy Butler.