Larry Nance Jr & The Forward Positions
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trade Julius Randle for Myles Turner. Nance can Start at the PF. Tarik Black could slide down to PF. We'll have Mozgov, Turner and Zubac at C
Turner can spread the floor, can shoot and defend
Turner can spread the floor, can shoot and defend
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thegamefritz wrote:trade Julius Randle for Myles Turner. Nance can Start at the PF. Tarik Black could slide down to PF. We'll have Mozgov, Turner and Zubac at C
Turner can spread the floor, can shoot and defend
The Pacers aren't that dumb.
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Kentavicius wrote:thegamefritz wrote:trade Julius Randle for Myles Turner. Nance can Start at the PF. Tarik Black could slide down to PF. We'll have Mozgov, Turner and Zubac at C
Turner can spread the floor, can shoot and defend
The Pacers aren't that dumb.
Add a Anthony Brown and future 2nd rd..
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thegamefritz wrote:Kentavicius wrote:thegamefritz wrote:trade Julius Randle for Myles Turner. Nance can Start at the PF. Tarik Black could slide down to PF. We'll have Mozgov, Turner and Zubac at C
Turner can spread the floor, can shoot and defend
The Pacers aren't that dumb.
Add a Anthony Brown and future 2nd rd..
Nowhere near enough...
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Nobody is touching Mozgov or Young's contracts. Those are the kinds of idiocy that we are going to have to live with till they expire. Randle's trade value isn't that high either, considering he is not even considered a sure fire starter on one of the worst teams in the league. If we think he is a ball hog who clogs up an offense, what would a good team do with him?
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Nance is better than Randle now & will be the starter soon... Luke will not be able to sit him with his hustle, blocks, rebounding, screens, passing and relentless energy that lifts the entire team... He will be our starting PF soon, rest assured... Deng, Nance & Mozgov will be our front line...
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One Love wrote:Nance is better than Randle now & will be the starter soon... Luke will not be able to sit him with his hustle, blocks, rebounding, screens, passing and relentless energy that lifts the entire team... He will be our starting PF soon, rest assured... Deng, Nance & Mozgov will be our front line...
If we're only looking at Nance v. Randle in a vacuum then I agree.
But based on what I saw in one preseason game, I realllly like the 2nd unit with Ingram, Nance and Black. Those guys are all so unselfish and bring an uplifting energy. Their skills fit well together. The sum is greater than the parts.
Putting Randle and Black together in the 2nd unit seems kind of redundant to me. They're similar players. And Randle plays with a level of selfishness that I wouldn't want to put next to Ingram.
As you can tell I'm not a big fan of Randle as a team component. As an individual I think he can be valuable on the right team. To fit with this team he needs to bring more of a Lamar Odom or Draymond mindset. He isn't a good enough shooter or finisher to be the scorer he wants to be.
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One Love wrote:Nance is better than Randle now & will be the starter soon... Luke will not be able to sit him with his hustle, blocks, rebounding, screens, passing and relentless energy that lifts the entire team... He will be our starting PF soon, rest assured... Deng, Nance & Mozgov will be our front line...
And then eventually it will be Ingram, Nance, and Zubac.
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thegamefritz wrote:trade Julius Randle for Myles Turner. Nance can Start at the PF. Tarik Black could slide down to PF. We'll have Mozgov, Turner and Zubac at C
Turner can spread the floor, can shoot and defend
I can' believe so many were picked ahead of Turner.
Turner is too late the Pacers won't let him go.
I like Zubac
But year from Day 1 after watching the Hops and blocks
Larry Nance Jr is one of the players that is the most exciting to watch and along with the new guy Zubac
The Volleyball style blocks will be what I will be looking for in these guys and even Ingram I like to see
a strong swat in his blocks.
Ingram and Nance are what I see as the future.
Hopefully Russell and Clarkson can work out but if not I see these two and Randle as possible great trading pieces.
I believe one day Clarkson or Russel will have to go. There can only be One.
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Umm...one game into preseason, and already there are posts about possibly trading away Randle, Russell, and/or Clarkson? Really?
I'm going to take the more measured approach, and see how the preseason plays out, including early regular season, before, making any grand proclamations about the viability of our young mainstay players. As much as I like Nance, I'm not ready to proclaim him a better player than Randle, yet. Granted, he may seem to be a better "fit", at the moment, but Randle just needs to focus a bit more, and allow the game to come to him, as opposed to forcing the issue at times. He allows bad plays/call/ etc. to affect him mentally, thus losing focus.
Anthony Brown showed promise offensively, in the first preseason game. Now, he needs to show it consistently. His defense is not in question. He's a keeper, imo, for now. I feel the same about Nick Young. If anybody needs to be moved, it would be Lou Williams. I've felt that way since last season. Not the best of signings, that one.
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I'm going to take the more measured approach, and see how the preseason plays out, including early regular season, before, making any grand proclamations about the viability of our young mainstay players. As much as I like Nance, I'm not ready to proclaim him a better player than Randle, yet. Granted, he may seem to be a better "fit", at the moment, but Randle just needs to focus a bit more, and allow the game to come to him, as opposed to forcing the issue at times. He allows bad plays/call/ etc. to affect him mentally, thus losing focus.
Anthony Brown showed promise offensively, in the first preseason game. Now, he needs to show it consistently. His defense is not in question. He's a keeper, imo, for now. I feel the same about Nick Young. If anybody needs to be moved, it would be Lou Williams. I've felt that way since last season. Not the best of signings, that one.
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Mirjalovic wrote:Randle has a promising rookie season and no, this year is not his make or break season.
Maybe not "make or break" for Randle but it could be for him as a Laker. I see our front office as being inpatient and wanting to "jump" right back to the top. If one or more of these kids struggles or I could see us moving them. On a 17 win team who's used to winning a lot I'd say everyone is "make or break" at some point.
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Landsberger wrote:Mirjalovic wrote:Randle has a promising rookie season and no, this year is not his make or break season.
Maybe not "make or break" for Randle but it could be for him as a Laker. I see our front office as being inpatient and wanting to "jump" right back to the top. If one or more of these kids struggles or I could see us moving them. On a 17 win team who's used to winning a lot I'd say everyone is "make or break" at some point.
Lakers FO always patient. The impatient one is the Lakers fans.
shawn_hemp wrote: a guy who is far worse than Robert Covington in Brandon Ingram, and a guy who is no better than TJ McConnell or Tony Wroten in D'Angelo Russell.
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Mirjalovic wrote:Landsberger wrote:Mirjalovic wrote:Randle has a promising rookie season and no, this year is not his make or break season.
Maybe not "make or break" for Randle but it could be for him as a Laker. I see our front office as being inpatient and wanting to "jump" right back to the top. If one or more of these kids struggles or I could see us moving them. On a 17 win team who's used to winning a lot I'd say everyone is "make or break" at some point.
Lakers FO always patient. The impatient one is the Lakers fans.
Thus why our fans are stupid.
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XtotheDeezy wrote:*not cool*
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What the heck has Randle done off the court to make you say you hope he "wisens up his act"?
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Cousins will already be traded to another team before we even try. Also Cousins behavior is worse than Randless and Luke won't be able to control that. Also the Kings want more than Randle.
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Mirjalovic wrote:Landsberger wrote:Mirjalovic wrote:Randle has a promising rookie season and no, this year is not his make or break season.
Maybe not "make or break" for Randle but it could be for him as a Laker. I see our front office as being inpatient and wanting to "jump" right back to the top. If one or more of these kids struggles or I could see us moving them. On a 17 win team who's used to winning a lot I'd say everyone is "make or break" at some point.
Lakers FO always patient. The impatient one is the Lakers fans.
THIS front office has never developed any players other than Bynum. I'd say this is uncharted territory for Jimmy, Jeanie and Mitch. The last time we were digging out of a hole those positions were held by others and we did sell high and early with some younger players.
As for my patience. The first Laker Championship I watched from the sidelines was when the GM of that 90's rebuild was playing guard. I've seen 3 previous ground up rebuilds of this team so patience isn't my problem.
Some fans see what isn't there or what they wish was there IMHO. I truly couldn't care less about potential. What is being done is what is relevant. Progress from a reference point is important. Projection to the unknown not so much.
All that said, I am ambivalent on Randle. He's a high energy guy and has the ability to play in space. I love the effort and desire. Those attributes are valuable. If that's a valuable commodity to how we want to run the offense then we should keep him. I'm not seeing anything that telling me that he's a cornerstone player so for a team in the hole we are in and I'd hope we are looking at all options to make this team better including trading anyone on the roster.