Who will sign Valanciunas ?

[babyjax13]

Sadly all the good teams will not want to spend money on him. I really think he is quality basketball player, but he ofc has his limitations. Noone wants to pay a backup 15 mils a season that is why he will probably end up on team like Wizards because they have money and no real option at center, and they are not going anywhere.

I actually really like the idea of the Wizards. He will generate some possessions with offensive rebounds and can also step out to three now and then. I think that will help their young guys who aren't going to be as physical as other teams. Obviously you are giving something up on defense, but that seems alright - losing while being more competitive is what they need right now.

[HornetJail]

I'd be pretty happy if Charlotte got him, assuming we don't draft another center. We need someone good for all the minutes Mark doesn't play

I like that..thinking about a ST, where Hornets send Richards?..NOP gets a backup shot blocker on a good contract and Hornets save a few million on Jonas contract

i would happily ship Richards anywhere in the league so sure

[vxmike]

I like the fit for OKC.

[esvl]

I know you guys in Toronto love big centres who are useless in playoff, like Poeltl and JV. There is a chance for you to create another Twin Tower. Just keep Memphis out of these guys. We prefer the bigs who have both basic skills: finishing and defending.

I wouldn't have guessed, I'd swear they even gave Adams an extension while they were competitive

You are correct. Also had Dieng as a backup for some reason. I guess they are also alergic to centers that can rebound. But al least their fans are amazing at being obnoxious

Guys, you are free to bring JV to your team and enjoy threesome. Just keep Memphis out of
him and your remarkable basketball expertise.

[esvl]

Memphis makes a lot of sense, actually.

They just need a big C for 22-24 mins. JJJ will play the other mins.

He already has connections to the franchise. This has to be the leading odds IMO.

I know you guys in Toronto love big centres who are useless in playoff, like Poeltl and JV. There is a chance for you to create another Twin Tower. Just keep Memphis out of these guys. We prefer the bigs who have both basic skills: finishing and defending.

If I were Memphis I would simply trade for a center who can hit the 3 and anchor a D and win the title, like the Raptors did in 2019 with Marc Gasol.

Aligned. Hoping for Claxton.

[tcheco]

I wouldn't have guessed, I'd swear they even gave Adams an extension while they were competitive

You are correct. Also had Dieng as a backup for some reason. I guess they are also alergic to centers that can rebound. But al least their fans are amazing at being obnoxious

Guys, you are free to bring JV to your team and enjoy threesome. Just keep Memphis out of
him and your remarkable basketball expertise.

You fantasize sexually with players? Ew, get some help, and some brain

[Bentley1225]

OKC for the MLE for 2+1 I think will happen

[psman2]

Put me down with I don't think Val can get the full MLE anymore. He is entering his Kanter years, a good offensive regular season center that likely falls out a team's playoff rotation. My guess is on the high end it is something like a 2/20 with 2nd year only gtd for a few million.

I agree that Memphis would very likely never look at him again, he is not what we want out of a center. Maybe if we sign another center but want another body there and are only left with the TMLE we would offer it to him.

[BarbaGrizz]

Wouldn´t mind seeing JV back in Memphis for a reasonable contract if we whif on other Centers

[louc1970]

Every cap space team should give him the room exception w/o hesitation (OKC, DET, SAS), but he'll be angling for the MLE IMO, I'm not sure which MLE team will give it to him.

I would say OKC is the best option. He can come in and body up on the opposing center instead of having Holmgren try.

[Texas Chuck]

You fantasize sexually with players? Ew, get some help, and some brain

Yeah none of this is actually contributing anything to discussion and its just personal attacks. Don't do this.

[Monky15]

If he doesn't get the offers he wants (MLE) then either Denver to ring chase or back to Europe where he can make similar money to the minor exceptions and play less games while being closer to home.

[BuddyBuckets]

Undervalued player. If he played on the Wiz he'd put up 22/13 averages. Sure he gets cooked in P&R but as far as offensively talented bigs go he's still up there.

[Texas Chuck]

Undervalued player. If he played on the Wiz he'd put up 22/13 averages. Sure he gets cooked in P&R but as far as offensively talented bigs go he's still up there.

What an oddly specific and completely unprovable statistical assumption. Also who cares? Someone has to score and rebound even on bad teams. Boban could do that if you played him 30 minutes. But nobody is planning on paying Boban big this summer. Heck Al Jefferson probably still gives you 15/10 if you don't care at all about defense.

He is what he is. Big physical center with some offensive skill and rebounding. These guys tend to be nominal starters who don't close games. Nobody is paying big money for this guy any longer, nor should they. He's a fine rotation center. He's Zubac essentially.

[BuddyBuckets]

Undervalued player. If he played on the Wiz he'd put up 22/13 averages. Sure he gets cooked in P&R but as far as offensively talented bigs go he's still up there.

What an oddly specific and completely unprovable statistical assumption. Also who cares? Someone has to score and rebound even on bad teams. Boban could do that if you played him 30 minutes. But nobody is planning on paying Boban big this summer. Heck Al Jefferson probably still gives you 15/10 if you don't care at all about defense.

He is what he is. Big physical center with some offensive skill and rebounding. These guys tend to be nominal starters who don't close games. Nobody is paying big money for this guy any longer, nor should they. He's a fine rotation center. He's Zubac essentially.

Sorry mate, but it's laughable you lump him in with Boban/Zubac. He's vastly more talented offensively. Albeit Zubac is probably the better defender. But lets not go into fantasy land while degrading a quality player. Maybe there isn't a strong market for traditional bigs anymore, that doesn't mean he isn't a 20/10 level player.

[Texas Chuck]

He's literally never been a 20/10 player but I'm laughable for saying a guy who has played part-time and not closed games the past two years is a part-time player who doesn't close games.

One of is talking about literally what's happened and one of us is just making up stats and assigning them to him.

If that makes me the funny one, cool cool cool.

[psman2]

Undervalued player. If he played on the Wiz he'd put up 22/13 averages. Sure he gets cooked in P&R but as far as offensively talented bigs go he's still up there.

What an oddly specific and completely unprovable statistical assumption. Also who cares? Someone has to score and rebound even on bad teams. Boban could do that if you played him 30 minutes. But nobody is planning on paying Boban big this summer. Heck Al Jefferson probably still gives you 15/10 if you don't care at all about defense.

He is what he is. Big physical center with some offensive skill and rebounding. These guys tend to be nominal starters who don't close games. Nobody is paying big money for this guy any longer, nor should they. He's a fine rotation center. He's Zubac essentially.

Sorry mate, but it's laughable you lump him in with Boban/Zubac. He's vastly more talented offensively. Albeit Zubac is probably the better defender. But lets not go into fantasy land while degrading a quality player. Maybe there isn't a strong market for traditional bigs anymore, that doesn't mean he isn't a 20/10 level player.

I think Val could be close to 20/10 guy for Washington still, like he did when he first came to Memphis when we were shorthanded for 19 games to end the season. But to what end? His defense is even worse now and not getting any better with age. Why would a rebuilding team want to play though him to the detriment of development and still lose by 20 a night playing that way. He might be able to get a 20 minute role for a playoff team during the regular season but is likely phased out in the playoffs.

Zubac is vastly superior on D these days.

[nate33]

Sadly all the good teams will not want to spend money on him. I really think he is quality basketball player, but he ofc has his limitations. Noone wants to pay a backup 15 mils a season that is why he will probably end up on team like Wizards because they have money and no real option at center, and they are not going anywhere.

The Wizards have absolutely no need or desire to add veterans at a high salary. They're only going to take on veterans that teams are trying to dump and who are willing to attach picks to them (like Bagley).

The Wizards already have Bagley and Holmes at center. They are adequate enough. They're not going to pay the MLE for a veteran that makes them 3 games better over the course of the regular season. Why would they want to improve from 24 wins to 27 wins with vetaren help? What does that accomplish?

The Wizards will live and die with their young guys (Vukcevic, Bagley, their draft pick) at center. If that means more losses, that's a feature, not a bug. It gets them a higher 2025 pick.

[Johnston]

He's literally never been a 20/10 player but I'm laughable for saying a guy who has played part-time and not closed games the past two years is a part-time player who doesn't close games.

One of is talking about literally what's happened and one of us is just making up stats and assigning them to him.

If that makes me the funny one, cool cool cool.

I've watched a lot of Jonas, lots of raps fans thought he should have been given a shot at #1 offensive option on the raps at times during the DeRozan/Lowry era. Before he was traded, he avged 13/7 in 19mins then and 20/11 in 27mins on the Grizz for the remainder of the season.

[Ell Curry]

Sadly all the good teams will not want to spend money on him. I really think he is quality basketball player, but he ofc has his limitations. Noone wants to pay a backup 15 mils a season that is why he will probably end up on team like Wizards because they have money and no real option at center, and they are not going anywhere.

The Wizards have absolutely no need or desire to add veterans at a high salary. They're only going to take on veterans that teams are trying to dump and who are willing to attach picks to them (like Bagley).

The Wizards already have Bagley and Holmes at center. They are adequate enough. They're not going to pay the MLE for a veteran that makes them 3 games better over the course of the regular season. Why would they want to improve from 24 wins to 27 wins with vetaren help? What does that accomplish?

The Wizards will live and die with their young guys (Vukcevic, Bagley, their draft pick) at center. If that means more losses, that's a feature, not a bug. It gets them a higher 2025 pick.

We do see tanking teams sometimes sign a veteran on say a 1+1 with the idea of trading him at the deadline when someone needs a center, but yeah, I don't see it either. If Jones stays you're over the cap anyways and if he goes I think you'll sign (or trade for) a PG unless you draft one just to keep the young guys in a normal playing environment and not kill Kuzma's value.

Charlotte I could see, if they trade Nick Richards.