jbk1234 wrote:DowJones wrote:Skybox wrote:Pretty common national consensus that Allen OR Mobley at C is the way. That's a dilemma, but a good one. I still contend that WCJ would be a better complement to either of them, because he can shoot and switch defensively very well (really well for a guy built to bang with big guys). I understand Allen is more valuable than WCJ straight up. I also assume CLE, if choosing, sticks with Mobley over Allen. IF you accept that direction for CLE...what is the add from ORL to get Allen?
If you don't-no real need to jump in. I understand it's not a universal belief that they're (Allen & Mobley) not optimized together.
If WCJ and a late first rounder (for example) is the best offer we get for Jarrett Allen, I would rather keep Jarett Allen. The Cavs desperately need a SF. That is what I would be looking to move Allen for.
This. Altman isn't going to just gift good players away because of misplaced concerns over fit. Also, every fan posting here is acting like their their team will be the only team calling.
Not necessarily a true assumption. Some of us may just be saying what we think our team should offer for Garland. I, for one, understand that ORL doesn't necessarily have the "win-now" pieces another playoff team might prefer. Doesn't mean we wouldn't want Garland...just means ORL isn't going to enter a bidding war with core pieces.
For ORL, Paolo, Franz, and Suggs would not be in consideration (maybe Isaac too-he's a key to their defensive identity) for a supremely skilled 6'1 one-way guy who seemed pretty overwhelmed in the playoff series - by the ORL defense and, mostly, by his own teammate's enormous shadow. I think Garland is really really good and may be great, but he took a step backward, imo, in this series. His contract is enormous too...it's definitely detracting from his value for a team like ORL, that will be going from riches to a very tight budget when all 3 of their core guys get their extensions. Isaac will be due for a new deal too and he went from "maybe forced retirement/waiver" to "ready for a raise even though I'm playing 15 mpg".
A guy like Monk could be had for roughly half the salary and none of the assets. Monk is not Garland but ORL may not really need a "true" PG or 25ppg from that spot, as their offense needs a lot of goosing, but it's unlikely that Paolo & Franz will (or should) be pushed back in the hierarchy. Their unconventional size and skillsets are the most promising things ORL has to work with.
nevermind.
