REVISED: The ABCs of Trades: A is for Atlanta w/Toronto

[HomieOmey]

Don't really care for the revised deal. Rather just give JJ a chance. Probably because I'm a biased Raptors fan, but I have a lot more dumb faith/hope/optimism that Bargs can prove himself effective than that Marvin can. And I do think ATL knows that Bargs would fit much better in ATL since he is a solid post defender and legit offensive threat. If he works out great then Horford is happy he doesn't have to play C and the Hawks have a pretty solid balance of offence and defence in their starting five. This deal also potentially saves ATL quite a bit of money depending on what Crawford needs to stay. If he demands close to Bargs $$, then I'm guessing ATL would be happy to bring in a player who makes keeping Crawford less necessary. Basically, I rather take my chances with Bargnani's potential - as likely as he is to disappoint again.

[Geaux_Hawks]

Rather just give JJ a chance. Probably because I'm a biased Raptors fan, but I have a lot more dumb faith/hope/optimism that Bargs can prove himself effective than that Marvin can. And I do think ATL knows that Bargs would fit much better in ATL since he is a solid post defender and legit offensive threat. Basically, I rather take my chances with Bargnani's potential - as likely as he is to disappoint again.

Clearly, both players need a change of scenery. Bargs needs somebody he can depend on to take pressure off him from being "That Guy", while Marvin just needs an opportunity to showcase what he can do for a team, much like Dorell Wright. Playing next to Val will help out a lot, but Toronto still will depend a lot on Bargs and he just won't strive as being "That Guy". Meanwhile, Marvin may never get an opportunity to play up to his potential until after he expires or gets traded. Dude has really shown strong flashes when given a chance. I mean the Hawks get the better of the deal, but Toronto can very well end up with a productive SF, and direct their main focus on a "PGOTF"

Best case scenario, Marvin performs adequately to where SF is no longer a main priority for the team. So now the '12 draft rolls around and you know you got Val coming over for next season, Marvin just had a solid season, Derozan looks even better, and Davis is coming along strong. Yet, at PG, Calderon is not the guy for the future and Bayless fits better as a 6th man scorer. Guys like Kabongo and Teague seem to be just a promising of being a star player as those SF's everyone else talks about.

Teague(My preference)/Kabongo
Derozan
Marvin
Davis
Val

Bench: Amir, Bayless, Zaza, & Johnson

That's a promising team in the East with a rookie PG guiding the team.

Looks promising in the East.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Geaux_Hawks - I agree that both players need new starts but Marvin's shouldn't be with Toronto. The guy is just as overpaid as Bargs right now and doesn't fit a need here. I mean why do we want to take him on when we look poised to take a SF in 2012? That "team" you made isn't good enough right now to beat Chicago and Miami for sure. They have potential and are young but so were the 2000's Clippers they had a lot of prospects and look how that went.