MN-GSW draft day

[Coxy]

Yeah I don't like this deal. More so because I'm not an Al Jefferson fan at all, and I REALLY want to see Randolph develop fully before dealing him.

[FNQ]

The problem is the fit, not the value... Shrinks deal of AR, Maggs, BW for Al seems ok value to me, but do we need an offensive minded PF? Same problem, new position.

If Min is trying to move Big Al, i'd think Chicago would be a great destination for him

[Coxy]

The problem is the fit, not the value... Shrinks deal of AR, Maggs, BW for Al seems ok value to me, but do we need an offensive minded PF? Same problem, new position.

If Min is trying to move Big Al, i'd think Chicago would be a great destination for him

So, Jefferson is a problem player at PF due to xxxxxxxx, yet you think the value of Randolph, Maggette and Wright for Jefferson seems right to you? You must REALLY hate your own players.

[azwfan]

How about this dillyeo?

How far away is Monta + Randolph + Vlad Rad (~ 20M) for Jefferson + Gomes + Hollins (~ 15M w/o Gomes, 19M w/) ?

EDIT: or take out Vladrad, Gomes and Hollins, but Wolves add #16?

Warrior homer here:

Not very close. Without Randolph it gets closer, but i'd probably prefer to keep Monta, and I'm not a big Jefferson fan. I'd package Ellis and Randolph to get a star player, i don't put Jefferson in that category.

If we're out of the top 4 post lottery, i may trade our pick plus Maggette for Jefferson.

If we get Turner in the draft i might do Ellis + Wright for Jefferson. I think thats probably the MAX i would give up for Jefferson with a gun to my head.

Honestly most of the fun of getting Jefferson would be reading Sid the Squid rant and rave about how terrible he is.

[shrink]

Shrinks deal of AR, Maggs, BW for Al seems ok value to me

Just wanted to clarify that this is not my deal.

I will say that I roll my eyes when, regardless of age, injury or whatever other excuses you want to make, I see a team that loses nearly 60 games call FIVE PLAYERS "nearly untouchable."

You don't see that in the other fanbases, and I saw no one from GSW contradict this position. With so many nearly untouchable players, maybe the trade board is the wrong place for happy posting, and you'd be happier on Player Comparisons or better yet, on the GSW board, reinforcing your own high opinions?

[SO_MONEY]

Shrinks deal of AR, Maggs, BW for Al seems ok value to me

Just wanted to clarify that this is not my deal.

I will say that I roll my eyes when, regardless of age, injury or whatever other excuses you want to make, I see a team that loses nearly 60 games call FIVE PLAYERS "nearly untouchable."

You don't see that in the other fanbases, and I saw no one from GSW contradict this position. With so many nearly untouchable players, maybe the trade board is the wrong place for happy posting, and you'd be happier on Player Comparisons or better yet, on the GSW board, reinforcing your own high opinions?

Man I didn't even think about that...FUNNY!

[FNQ]

The problem is the fit, not the value... Shrinks deal of AR, Maggs, BW for Al seems ok value to me, but do we need an offensive minded PF? Same problem, new position.

If Min is trying to move Big Al, i'd think Chicago would be a great destination for him

So, Jefferson is a problem player at PF due to xxxxxxxx, yet you think the value of Randolph, Maggette and Wright for Jefferson seems right to you? You must REALLY hate your own players.

yup. Maggette and Jefferson both do the same things just at different positions. But maggette handles too much.

If they were diseases, Jefferson is a bad cold and Maggs is the runs. which would you rather have?

[lakerhater]

Shrinks deal of AR, Maggs, BW for Al seems ok value to me

Just wanted to clarify that this is not my deal.

I will say that I roll my eyes when, regardless of age, injury or whatever other excuses you want to make, I see a team that loses nearly 60 games call FIVE PLAYERS "nearly untouchable."

You don't see that in the other fanbases, and I saw no one from GSW contradict this position.

Ah, it's obvious, since GSW fans didn't respond to the post in question then they all agree with that post

[BeRight32]

I'd be much more willing to give up Wright than I would Randolph. Randolph's a keeper as far as I'm concerned. We have a lot of talent on this team. Out of the 15 or so players (a few of them are D-League extras due to our injuries) the following I won't say are untouchable but in order to consider letting go you'll have to knock our socks off (which none of you are doing).

Near untouchable:
Curry
Randolph
Wright

Maybe available for the right deal but not giving away
Biedrins
Ellis
Turiaf
Williams
Morrow

Readily available
Maggette
Azubuike
CJ Watson
Tolliver
Hunter
Radmanovic
George

I agree in general, but for me, i do not have Biedrins and Morrow in the same area as Curry, Ellis, or Randolph. I'd say they are somewhere inbetween the 1st and 2nd groups you have listed. Also i'd probably push CJ Watson down into readily available.

I say its more like this

[lakerhater]

I'd be much more willing to give up Wright than I would Randolph. Randolph's a keeper as far as I'm concerned. We have a lot of talent on this team. Out of the 15 or so players (a few of them are D-League extras due to our injuries) the following I won't say are untouchable but in order to consider letting go you'll have to knock our socks off (which none of you are doing).

Near untouchable:
Curry
Randolph
Biedrins
Ellis
Morrow

Maybe available for the right deal but not giving away
Wright
Turiaf
Maggette
CJ Watson
Azubuike
Williams

Readily available
Tolliver
Hunter
Radmanovic
George

The only GSW player that is nearly untouchable in a trade is Curry. All other players and draft picks are fair game.

[FNQ]

Shrinks deal of AR, Maggs, BW for Al seems ok value to me

Just wanted to clarify that this is not my deal.

I will say that I roll my eyes when, regardless of age, injury or whatever other excuses you want to make, I see a team that loses nearly 60 games call FIVE PLAYERS "nearly untouchable."

You don't see that in the other fanbases, and I saw no one from GSW contradict this position. With so many nearly untouchable players, maybe the trade board is the wrong place for happy posting, and you'd be happier on Player Comparisons or better yet, on the GSW board, reinforcing your own high opinions?

Man I didn't even think about that...FUNNY!

lol wow at that... Ive never seen so many people trying to be dicks here. Trade board has REALLY fallen off lately...

You posted that basis of a deal earlier.. Whatever... It was so people knew where the idea came from. As for the rest, i was unaware GSW fans are supposed to police our other posters opinions... Rem or whoever it was can say what they want. Doesnt make it close to reality...

The generalizations here are just brutal

[azwfan]

Shrinks deal of AR, Maggs, BW for Al seems ok value to me

Just wanted to clarify that this is not my deal.

I will say that I roll my eyes when, regardless of age, injury or whatever other excuses you want to make, I see a team that loses nearly 60 games call FIVE PLAYERS "nearly untouchable."

You don't see that in the other fanbases, and I saw no one from GSW contradict this position. With so many nearly untouchable players, maybe the trade board is the wrong place for happy posting, and you'd be happier on Player Comparisons or better yet, on the GSW board, reinforcing your own high opinions?

Yet every day we have another team trying to "relieve" us of our crappy players...

I got an idea... try adding up "games missed" of those 5 players and get back to us. I bet its over 100.

[FNQ]

Ty for quoting hater... It all makes sense now. Turk tends to get way too exciteable sometimes..

[john2jer]

I'm coming to the belief that gswhoops is about the only Warriors fan without a drinking problem. The rest seriously have me wondering where their heads are.

Jefferson/#16/#23 for Randolph/Maggette/#5

id rather read a homer take by an individual rather than an ignorant generalization of a fan base. Posters like you make this board intolerable...

Suck it up, princess, quit whining. When the three loudest posters on this board, outside of gswhoops, are old rem, don nelson, and St Nick... It's pretty easy to come to that conclusion. You seem to be tolerating it just fine.

[BeRight32]

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[Krapinsky]

BeRight -- You might want to watch the swear words in your pic addie

[BeRight32]

Were?
EDIT: O I see it...Ill just take it down then...thanks for catching that

[lakerhater]

The shut the F*** up foundation is probably what Krapinsky is referring to.

[john2jer]

This ones for you john2jer
{OFFENSIVE PICTURE}

Nah, I thought about posting that, but it's pretty tacky to rip on the mentally handicapped. I mean I suppose it's ok to rip on the mentally handicapped if you're mentally handicapped yourself, kinda like comedians ripping on their own race, but unfortunately that's not me.

Good job outing yourself, though.

[Esohny]

I'm coming to the belief that gswhoops is about the only Warriors fan without a drinking problem. The rest seriously have me wondering where their heads are.

Jefferson/#16/#23 for Randolph/Maggette/#5

id rather read a homer take by an individual rather than an ignorant generalization of a fan base. Posters like you make this board intolerable...

W's pass in nearly all Jefferson deals... We need a real c and he's not that. Even though the value fits, the needs dont, for either side IMO

When a generalization fits reality, how is it ignorant?