Giannis blazes a trail towards a ring

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Re: Giannis blazes a trail towards a ring 

Post#61 » by Myth » Sat Oct 18, 2025 6:40 pm

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R-DAWG wrote:Call me crazy, but the only way I see the Blazers involved in a Giannis trade is as the third team in the Knicks/Giannis deal - either at the deadline or more likely next summer.

Put it this way - what would Portland need to add to returning Milwaukee's 2029 1st and relinquishing the swap rights with the Bucks in 2028 and 2030 to turn Jeremi Grant into OG Anunoby. Giannis/Grant make about $7MM less than Towns/Anunoby this year. Is Towns plus the Bucks regaining control of their draft from 28-30 plus some Knicks swaps enough? Does the Knicks 2026 1st plus their 2033 1st over the summer change things?

The bigger question I have is there anything from a young player perspective MIL can offer to New Orleans to regain control of their 27 1st?

I know this is a real long shot - but we have seen Rudy Gobert, Mikal Bridges, and Desmond Bane traded for massive packages. I could see Anunoby getting 70 cents on the dollar to what those guys went for.

I agree with you. Blazers should be the 3rd team.

I think it should be turning Grant into Towns (instead of OG), but either way.

To sweeten the deal for Blazers (if needed), Bucks/Knicks can offer Knicks swaps - so in essence Blazers still holding 1 to 2 1st swaps - just Knicks instead of Bucks. End result is Bucks getting their longterm future back (from Blazers).

Knicks swaps would be pretty worthless after they land Giannis.
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Re: Giannis blazes a trail towards a ring 

Post#62 » by Wolveswin » Sat Oct 18, 2025 6:59 pm

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R-DAWG wrote:Call me crazy, but the only way I see the Blazers involved in a Giannis trade is as the third team in the Knicks/Giannis deal - either at the deadline or more likely next summer.

Put it this way - what would Portland need to add to returning Milwaukee's 2029 1st and relinquishing the swap rights with the Bucks in 2028 and 2030 to turn Jeremi Grant into OG Anunoby. Giannis/Grant make about $7MM less than Towns/Anunoby this year. Is Towns plus the Bucks regaining control of their draft from 28-30 plus some Knicks swaps enough? Does the Knicks 2026 1st plus their 2033 1st over the summer change things?

The bigger question I have is there anything from a young player perspective MIL can offer to New Orleans to regain control of their 27 1st?

I know this is a real long shot - but we have seen Rudy Gobert, Mikal Bridges, and Desmond Bane traded for massive packages. I could see Anunoby getting 70 cents on the dollar to what those guys went for.

I agree with you. Blazers should be the 3rd team.

I think it should be turning Grant into Towns (instead of OG), but either way.

To sweeten the deal for Blazers (if needed), Bucks/Knicks can offer Knicks swaps - so in essence Blazers still holding 1 to 2 1st swaps - just Knicks instead of Bucks. End result is Bucks getting their longterm future back (from Blazers).

Knicks swaps would be pretty worthless after they land Giannis.

Not in 2032 and 2030 they won’t (be worthless). Giannis is 31 this season - for those seasons he will be 38 and 36 respectively if still playing and not retired in Greece with his family. It’s exactly the same hedge Blazers have right now with Bucks 1sts - hoping Giannis is gone or aged out to make them super sexy. Same same.
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Re: Giannis blazes a trail towards a ring 

Post#63 » by JRoy » Sat Oct 18, 2025 7:08 pm

Better just to keep that MIL FRP than take on a nice expensive non star to help another team land a top 3 player.

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Re: Giannis blazes a trail towards a ring 

Post#64 » by DaVoiceMaster » Sat Oct 18, 2025 7:31 pm

No need to wait 6 or 7 years for a pick when the Blazers may have 3 better picks a couple of years earlier. Not a Townes fan either. I can't see Portland as a third team with Milwaukee and New York.
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Re: Giannis blazes a trail towards a ring 

Post#65 » by Myth » Sat Oct 18, 2025 7:57 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
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Wolveswin wrote:I agree with you. Blazers should be the 3rd team.

I think it should be turning Grant into Towns (instead of OG), but either way.

To sweeten the deal for Blazers (if needed), Bucks/Knicks can offer Knicks swaps - so in essence Blazers still holding 1 to 2 1st swaps - just Knicks instead of Bucks. End result is Bucks getting their longterm future back (from Blazers).

Knicks swaps would be pretty worthless after they land Giannis.

Not in 2032 and 2030 they won’t (be worthless). Giannis is 31 this season - for those seasons he will be 38 and 36 respectively if still playing and not retired in Greece with his family. It’s exactly the same hedge Blazers have right now with Bucks 1sts - hoping Giannis is gone or aged out to make them super sexy. Same same.

But is the rest of the Knicks as old as the rest of the Bucks were at the time we traded them Dame? Bucks are imploding slowly exactly as Portland hoped.
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Re: Giannis blazes a trail towards a ring 

Post#66 » by Wolveswin » Sat Oct 18, 2025 8:03 pm

Myth wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:
Myth wrote:Knicks swaps would be pretty worthless after they land Giannis.

Not in 2032 and 2030 they won’t (be worthless). Giannis is 31 this season - for those seasons he will be 38 and 36 respectively if still playing and not retired in Greece with his family. It’s exactly the same hedge Blazers have right now with Bucks 1sts - hoping Giannis is gone or aged out to make them super sexy. Same same.

But is the rest of the Knicks as old as the rest of the Bucks were at the time we traded them Dame? Bucks are imploding slowly exactly as Portland hoped.

But we can agree not worthless like you were trying to say.
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Re: Giannis blazes a trail towards a ring 

Post#67 » by JRoy » Sat Oct 18, 2025 8:27 pm

Close to worthless, then.
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Re: Giannis blazes a trail towards a ring 

Post#68 » by stamsammy » Sun Oct 19, 2025 1:50 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:Call me crazy, but the only way I see the Blazers involved in a Giannis trade is as the third team in the Knicks/Giannis deal - either at the deadline or more likely next summer.

Put it this way - what would Portland need to add to returning Milwaukee's 2029 1st and relinquishing the swap rights with the Bucks in 2028 and 2030 to turn Jeremi Grant into OG Anunoby. Giannis/Grant make about $7MM less than Towns/Anunoby this year. Is Towns plus the Bucks regaining control of their draft from 28-30 plus some Knicks swaps enough? Does the Knicks 2026 1st plus their 2033 1st over the summer change things?

The bigger question I have is there anything from a young player perspective MIL can offer to New Orleans to regain control of their 27 1st?

I know this is a real long shot - but we have seen Rudy Gobert, Mikal Bridges, and Desmond Bane traded for massive packages. I could see Anunoby getting 70 cents on the dollar to what those guys went for.

I agree with you. Blazers should be the 3rd team.

I think it should be turning Grant into Towns (instead of OG), but either way.

To sweeten the deal for Blazers (if needed), Bucks/Knicks can offer Knicks swaps - so in essence Blazers still holding 1 to 2 1st swaps - just Knicks instead of Bucks. End result is Bucks getting their longterm future back (from Blazers).


Where does KAT leads them? a 2nd round ceiling? with no potential top 20 player on the roster.
Meh, I'd rather use the bucks picks to hopefully draft the guy that's gonna lead them to contention.
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Re: Giannis blazes a trail towards a ring 

Post#69 » by JKiddy » Sun Oct 19, 2025 7:29 pm

So Giannis wants to play in NY or the NY area for a contender, but he wants to go to PDX? WTF :banghead:
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Re: Giannis blazes a trail towards a ring 

Post#70 » by JRoy » Sun Oct 19, 2025 8:07 pm

JKiddy wrote:So Giannis wants to play in NY or the NY area for a contender, but he wants to go to PDX? WTF :banghead:


It’s the NY of Oregon.
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Re: Giannis blazes a trail towards a ring 

Post#71 » by tacos » Mon Oct 20, 2025 4:32 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
Myth wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:Not in 2032 and 2030 they won’t (be worthless). Giannis is 31 this season - for those seasons he will be 38 and 36 respectively if still playing and not retired in Greece with his family. It’s exactly the same hedge Blazers have right now with Bucks 1sts - hoping Giannis is gone or aged out to make them super sexy. Same same.

But is the rest of the Knicks as old as the rest of the Bucks were at the time we traded them Dame? Bucks are imploding slowly exactly as Portland hoped.

But we can agree not worthless like you were trying to say.



The blazers are better off drafting those buck picks in the lotto.... Sure future New York swaps are not worthless but they are MUCH closer to worthless than they are to worth as much as they would need to be to acquire the bucks swaps

And the overpaid contracts in KAT and OG don't really do much to sway that because they make superstar money while they are only strong starters with holes in their game to go along with their substantial injury history

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