QRich3 wrote:Heh I'm glad bondom is here to answer everything exactly the way I would, but in a more articulated way
I think both trades in the OP are fair, I actually think Hayward is a better player than Irving and a guy that you can better fit on almost any team. The Bledsoe trade, it'd be fair if Bled had healthy knees, but as is it's pretty risky from the Cavs' part, so I probably wouldn't do it if I were them.
Re: the Paul-Irving situation, the whole premise is flawed because without Paul, the Clippers stop being any sort of semi-serious threat to go deep in the post-season. It doesn't matter how much older he is, or how long he'll play, without him the title window is gone, and it likely doesn't come back until Irving is retired, if it ever does. Kyrie is never coming close to 33-year-old Paul's level of impact. If you wanna keep insisting on youth, I have a really young Austin Rivers to trade for your team's best role player.
bleeds_purple wrote:I definitely agree he's much smarter a player at this stage of his career and basically maximizes what he has. But his impact on offense was just greater during his peak athleticism days. He doesn't put the same pressure on a defense like he used to. Its the same as we're seeing with LeBron. They will still get their 20-25 points but its not quite the same. No need to double or even adjust the defense much.
So, I guess you are impressed by nice crossovers and highlight plays, cause even without his young-self speed, he absolutely puts more pressure on the defense than he did in his NO years. Whether it's the threat of him taking one of his infallible midrange shots, or the threat of feeding Jordan for a lob, or feeding Redick for an open weakside 3, or whatever, he bends the defense at will, in a way that young Paul couldn't do. He's been improving every year since he came here and he's enough to carry nearly any team to a top offense by himself. He just did by dragging Luc Mbah A Moute and the corpse of Paul Pierce to a top 6 offense.
sfballa13 wrote:If CP3 has a chance to play with Lebron he will take it, sorry.
They are best friends, take family vacations together
He could privately approach Doc for a trade or make it public that he wants out and only will report to the Cavs
No team would give up anything for a one year rental for him
Not saying that CP3 is getting too old that Kyrie is better im saying that CP3 wants to play with Lebron and only has one year left on his deal
Maybe this doesnt go down but one thing is for sure, Lebron is taking a 1 year deal so he can take a cut the following year to recruit Paul. Clippers wont have any leverage except for an extra year on his next deal and CP3 could give two **** about that
Heh, we remember that song from 4 years ago, when he was best friends with Melo and was surely about force a trade to the Knicks (he made a toast!!), and then he'd surely want to play with Howard and he'd leave in free agency to the Hawks, and I don't remember how many other reasons he'd never re-sign with the Clippers. If I'm honest, I think he's more likely to take a paycut next summer to get some help here, than to go chasing a ring with Lebron.
