Tyreke Evans for Klay Thompson

Post #31 » by **gswhoops** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:02 pm

GS wouldnt do that Detroit deal either. Our GM loves Klay; it would take a severe overpay to get him.

DLeagueAllStars · Post #32 » by **DLeagueAllStars** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:16 pm

Stuckey isnt that good, prince is old and contract i too long and daye is worthless.... Yeah warriors will keep their trash and keep the best player in klay Thompson

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turk3d · Post #33 » by **turk3d** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:16 pm

Wouldn't do Thompson for Stuckey either.

Post #34 » by **FNQ** » Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:49 am

Awful for us

j_angel · Post #35 » by **j_angel** » Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:49 am

Thompson for Bradley, Melo, 2013 1st.

(Premise was suggested by a GSW fan)

As for Tyreke, GSW is a good fit IMO but not at the expense of Thompson.
Curry, Jack, Thompson, Evans is a solid and well rounded backcourt rotation.

He would be a solid 6th man for GSW. Providing something different if Curry/Thompson have off shooting nights.
Plus he would pair well with Curry (good shooter) if Thompson hit bad form or was injured. Likewise an Evans/Thompson backcourt would be productive if Curry was injured.

Question is, do GSW have enough to get him & can they afford to pay him.

Post #36 » by **gswhoops** » Thu Nov 15, 2012 12:36 pm

j_angel wrote:Thompson for Bradley, Melo, 2013 1st.

(Premise was suggested by a GSW fan)

I can't imagine any rational GS fan getting behind this, but we have some wackos. Either way, I expect the vast majority of us would give this two thumbs down. Bradley is hurt, Melo is athletic but hasn't shown much in the way of actual basketball skill and the pick will be in the mid-to-late 20's.

FYI, for anyone who wants to get Klay from the W's, what you're giving up is going to have to be something GOOD. We have plenty of depth right now, and aren't going to move him for a collection of lesser players and/or late picks. If there's no piece in your offer that it pains you to give up, it ain't enough.

bibby1023 · Post #37 » by **bibby1023** » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:08 pm

Warriors would get robbed in this...Thompson looks real promising, and he seems to be fitting nicely next to Curry. Yes reke is a better fit, and I think he'd flourish in the Warriors up and down offense that they play. He'd definitely open up the floor more for Curry. The Warriors don't want Reke's awful shooting, trust me on that.

Post #38 » by **FNQ** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:11 pm

gswhoops wrote:
j_angel wrote:Thompson for Bradley, Melo, 2013 1st.

(Premise was suggested by a GSW fan)

I can't imagine any rational GS fan getting behind this, but we have some wackos. Either way, I expect the vast majority of us would give this two thumbs down. Bradley is hurt, Melo is athletic but hasn't shown much in the way of actual basketball skill and the pick will be in the mid-to-late 20's.

FYI, for anyone who wants to get Klay from the W's, what you're giving up is going to have to be something GOOD. We have plenty of depth right now, and aren't going to move him for a collection of lesser players and/or late picks. If there's no piece in your offer that it pains you to give up, it ain't enough.

j_angel took liberties with my suggestion. Bradley wasn't hurt, Biedrins or RJ was in it, and it was before Bogut got shut down again.

Klay's value definitely overshadows his on-court worth though, and if we can turn that into a Tony Allen-ish defender, a big and a pick while dumping a contract... I'd be good with that. But no one ever suggested the deal above.

j_angel · Post #39 » by **j_angel** » Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:42 pm

I said the 'premise' was suggested by a GSW fan not the deal.
You said the basic premise would be a Bradley/Thompson trade. Thats where the bulk of the value is from both teams.

Post #40 » by **FNQ** » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:33 pm

The basis of a trade doesnt necessarily mean value is close. Just so long as its clear that when it was suggested, circumstances were different and we shed a big contract, which is no small deal to GS. I cant imagine any single W's fan is willing to trade quality for quantity without a legitimate, beneficial sweetner.

Post #41 » by **floppymoose** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:03 am

I'm not some Klay Thompson fan boy... I could definitely see trading him. But not for anyone I've seen mentioned in this thread. Klay, while imperfect, does give us the main thing we need from his position: a scoring threat from outside that can space the defense, and who can also drive to the hoop and finish if his defender crowds him.

NashtyNas · Post #42 » by **NashtyNas** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:01 am

DLeagueAllStars wrote:Its called i have seen alot if kings game tyreke has not improved as a player or shooter

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Says the guy with a Biedrins sig. :lol:

DLeagueAllStars · Post #43 » by **DLeagueAllStars** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:14 am

Biedrins sig was done long ago and is just a reminder of how far a player can fall as to what they did before they got paid. He had his athleticism and confidence and drove by nash and dunked on amare when amare was still good. This isy tribute to what andris was before money and injuries killed his confidence.

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NashtyNas · Post #44 » by **NashtyNas** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:22 am

I didn't know money kills confidence.. I thought it was the biggest motivator and confidence builder, guess I'm wrong though. He was never good to begin with, he worked well in that system because of the amount of possessions and lack of other rebounders. Tyreke has a future if he can figure out what his niche is and stop chucking jumpers; he can make a living at the FT line. Biedrins never had any skills outside of rebounding meanwhile Evans does.

Nonetheless this trade is bad for the Warriors, so don't see them doing anything like it unless major incentive is provided by Sac. Possibly taking on Jefferson or sending a pick.

DLeagueAllStars · Post #45 » by **DLeagueAllStars** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:37 am

Yes a big contract can bring on a lack of confidence. One gets the pay day, u lose that hunger and before you know it u lose ur hunger and u become complacent. Complacency and injuries yes can bring on lack of confidence. Not really that hard to figure that out

As for his skills, his quickness and hands allowed him to beat his opponent and to get rebounds. He was averaging double double at a.young age, so to say he has no skills.shows your lack of judgement including ur thoughts on tyreke.

The man has no jump shot, plays poor defense and doesnt have a position. He needs to be ball dominant and with no.shot.spells disaster. So if he needs a niche, what he can stride to corey badporn maggette. Great for sac or whichever team gives him his next contract

If u want to attack me, come with a real argument that u can back up

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DreDay · Post #46 » by **DreDay** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:49 am

Nope. Klay is playing busted right now but still has 15ppg. Can't wait till he finds his shot again.

Doormatt · Post #47 » by **Doormatt** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:57 pm

i think hed be awesome on the bulls, especially when rose gets back. i think deng is awesome, but maybe the bulls would want to get a bit younger with someone like klay, and have someone for rose to play with down the line. and if the warriors are in "win now" mode then a team with bogut/deng/curry would be pretty nice. dunno. would need more people but i think the premise might be there. personally i think deng is clearly a more valuable player so the warriors would have to send something to entice the bulls, but would the warriors have any interest? in my mind it would seem like a good fit.

Post #48 » by **floppymoose** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:09 pm

Deng is a fine player, but I'd rather have Klay, who is cheaper and a better shooter. Warriors team construction relies on strong exterior shooters to space the floor for us. I'm just not seeing any reason to move Klay. He's a classic example of a player other teams want, but his own team isn't looking to move.

DLeagueAllStars · Post #49 » by **DLeagueAllStars** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:09 pm

Warriors wouldnt be looking to add Deng as they just drafted Harrison Barnes who they like a lot. Klay really isnt going somewhere unless the Warriors get someone to overpay.

lakerhater · Post #50 » by **lakerhater** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:24 pm

Doormatt wrote:i think hed be awesome on the bulls, especially when rose gets back. i think deng is awesome, but maybe the bulls would want to get a bit younger with someone like klay, and have someone for rose to play with down the line. and if the warriors are in "win now" mode then a team with bogut/deng/curry would be pretty nice. dunno. would need more people but i think the premise might be there. personally i think deng is clearly a more valuable player so the warriors would have to send something to entice the bulls, but would the warriors have any interest? in my mind it would seem like a good fit.

The window for trading Deng to GSW was in the off-season before the draft. Now that Barnes is playing well as the W's starting SF they have no need for Deng. With hindsight being 20/20 I'm glad the W's didn't deal the 7th pick for a veteran SF.