KOTB: Min/Orl (No Afflalo. No Williams. No lie.)

[HartfordWhalers]

If you believe all teams would accept this trade, vote yes. If you believe otherwise, vote no. Please explain your vote.

Minnesota out: Barea + 2014* Minn 1st (Top 14/14/12/10 turns into 2 2nd)
Orlando out: Redick + 2015 LAL 2nd (Top 40 protected)

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=8t3oyua

Why for Minnesota:
Get a quality sg, a nice floor spacer, and free up cap space for next offseason. Barea is a luxury, and his 4.5m would be better spent on trying to resign Redick or Buddinger (both ufa's), along with the money for Pek and Love's extensions. Losing a pick to drop the salary hurts, but the fit of Redick and the clearing of money for next offseason (when the pick won't be on the books either) will be a help long term. And short term it is a great hole plug.

Why for Orlando:
Mostly, the pick. Also, Barea isn't a bad player, he can thrive in a certain role. And the pg rotation could use him. With Afflalo at the 2, and having Harkless take more minutes at the 3, Orlando adds to its stockpile of picks to keep building and gets a guy who can man backup pg for less then the MLE. Barea's 3 years matches the expiring deals of Nelson, Harrington, and Davis, as well as Afflalo's opt out, creating a nice setup to be big players then when the youth starts to show its stuff.


*Minnesota owes their 2013 1st (Top 13 protected), or if 2013 Memphis pick comes to them, then the worse of the two. The Memphis pick is top 14 protected in the 2013 Draft, top 14 protected in 2014, top 14 protected in 2015, and top 14 protection in 2016 Draft. However, if Memphis dropped out of the playoffs for the next two years, then the Stepien rule could force this pick back a year. So pick is technically 2014 or first available, although I see the chances of it being pushed back incredibly slim.

[SO_MONEY]

My guess is the Wolves would rather keep Barea, even if it were an even swap, giving the 1st leaves me at a loss for words and I am sure Minnesota's front office would feel the same. I think the two players have about equal value though, so the picks are really the only thing causing issues as far as value goes.

[Cigamodnalro]

Modify the protection on the pick and the Magic say yes.

Barea is a veteran contributor on a fair contract for his production, and as you said, fits well in Orlando's rotation. A T10 protected pick--one virtually certain to transfer such that the Magic can select in the especially deep 2014 draft--pushes this deal through.

Redick is more of a SG than Barea is, fits an important need for MIN, and provides long-term cap flexibility and an escape from Barea's 3 year deal. To the poster above me, I think MIN would certainly be interested in a straight swap. But, as I said, the pick pushes the thing through.

[HartfordWhalers]

Modify the protection on the pick and the Magic say yes.

Can't modify the trade. So given what is there,

If you believe all teams would accept this trade, vote yes. If you believe otherwise, vote no. Please explain your vote.

Looking for more votes in general.

[C.lupus]

I'm really torn on this one, which probably means the value is fairly close. I just don't know if throwing in the pick is too much from Minny's perspective. Barea and Redick are probably about equal in value so it's the pick for salary relief. It's only salary relief if they don't resign Redick, though, so I'm not sure if it accomplishes much in the long term. On the other hand, Redick is a great fit and, with Minnesota's drafting history, getting rid of a pick is probably a good thing.

I'm going to say Minnesota declines this deal. They could move Barea or Ridnour in a different salary dump if needed and they could sign Redick next year if they want so they don't really need to do this. KOTB no, I guess but an interesting deal.

[lazfa199]

I would do this for Minny

[HartfordWhalers]

I'm really torn on this one, which probably means the value is fairly close. I just don't know if throwing in the pick is too much from Minny's perspective. Barea and Redick are probably about equal in value so it's the pick for salary relief. It's only salary relief if they don't resign Redick, though, so I'm not sure if it accomplishes much in the long term. On the other hand, Redick is a great fit and, with Minnesota's drafting history, getting rid of a pick is probably a good thing.

I'm going to say Minnesota declines this deal. They could move Barea or Ridnour in a different salary dump if needed and they could sign Redick next year if they want so they don't really need to do this. KOTB no, I guess but an interesting deal.

Can't change it for KOTB, but would swapping the incoming 2nd to the GS '13 2nd instead of the LAL '15 2nd matter, or not nearly enough?

I would do this for Minny

But would you do it for Orlando? To be a KOTB yes, would need to be okay from both team's perspectives.

[Esohny]

I think it would be a "no" from MN, but a "yes" from Orlando. The pick makes it too expensive from the Wolves' perspective.

[HornetJail]

Redick isn't worth all that IMO.

No.

[[RCG]]

I give 'er a yes.

[lakerhater]

I'm not convinced Minny would do this deal because of the pick but I will say Orl needs to be shopping Redick pretty heavily. The Magic needs to strike while the iron's hot and sell Redick while he's playing the best ball of his career.

[MagicFan32]

Magic say no unless that first is guaranteed for 2014, no need for Barea and Redick has alot of value right now