KOTB: Varejao to OKC - take 49024850394013, with Utah

HornetJail · Post #1 » by **HornetJail** » Mon Dec 3, 2012 3:35 pm

OKC out: Kevin Martin, Perry Jones III, Eric Maynor, 2013 TOR 1st, 2013 OKC 1st, 2013 DAL 1st
OKC in: Anderson Varejao, Earl Watson, Mo Williams

The Thunder get their big man to pair with Ibaka and pray that Jeremy Lamb pans out. Mo Williams and Earl Watson probably get the best chance they'll get at a championship.

CLE out: Anderson Varejao, Luke Walton, Daniel Gibson
CLE in: Al Jefferson, Perry Jones III, Gordon Hayward, 2013 OKC 1st

They trade Varejao for an excellent center, who they can extend to keep long-term. They also plug a huge hole at the 3 by nabbing Hayward. PJIII is a terrific prospect as well.

UTA out: Al Jefferson, Mo Williams, Earl Watson, Gordon Hayward
UTA in: Kevin Martin, Eric Maynor, Daniel Gibson, Luke Walton, 2013 TOR 1st, 2013 DAL 1st

The Jazz free up PT for the young bigs and fill their hole on the wings with Kevin Martin, while picking up a very high pick a good role player in Maynor. Martin, Walton, and Gibson make up more than $20M in expiring deals, which can be very useful.

kiwibrindle · Post #2 » by **kiwibrindle** » Mon Dec 3, 2012 4:01 pm

I'll wait for free agency to get Jefferson and hold on to Andy. However thanks for making any type of offer for Luke Walton. That's a nice thought. But no.

Post #3 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Mon Dec 3, 2012 4:04 pm

Gross. No from OKC. No interest in trading KMart for the opportunity to downgrade to Mo Williams.

Post #4 » by **jazzfan1971** » Mon Dec 3, 2012 5:35 pm

Probably be a much better trade if you let OKC keep Martin and Utah keep Mo Williams and Hayward.

Not sure why you made that part of the trade. Mo makes more sense in Utah and Martin makes more sense in OKC. Utah has no desire to move Hayward.

I think this is a deal that should have been simplified and because it got too big it got too messy.

Vote no.

Post #5 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Mon Dec 3, 2012 5:43 pm

I don't really want Jefferson, he is a free agent soon and I'm really just not a fan.

Devilanche · Post #6 » by **Devilanche** » Mon Dec 3, 2012 5:51 pm

jazzfan1971 wrote:Probably be a much better trade if you let OKC keep Martin and Utah keep Mo Williams and Hayward.

Not sure why you made that part of the trade. Mo makes more sense in Utah and Martin makes more sense in OKC. Utah has no desire to move Hayward.

Any big salary OKC move has to include either Perkins or Martin.

Beyond our core 3, Thabo is next at 3.6m and Collison at 3m with Maynor on 2.4m.

HornetJail · Post #7 » by **HornetJail** » Mon Dec 3, 2012 6:07 pm

OKC's got to give up someone desirable who's paid a lot otherwise salaries don't work. I'm probably overvaluing AV, but if I give anything less, Cavs fans will want me dangling over a pit of fire with alligators in it or something.

Golabki · Post #8 » by **Golabki** » Mon Dec 3, 2012 6:07 pm

AV for Perk + Lamb + Toronto pick

It's simple, it makes sense. Get it done.

mg · Post #9 » by mg » Mon Dec 3, 2012 6:24 pm

Interesting concept but agree the deal is a little too big. Some of these parts just don't need to be moved (Haywood, Martin).

I do think IF Varejao gets moved by the deadline it will likely be a 3 team type deal and doubt he goes to OKC. I think it's more likely he would end up with a veteran team like San Antonio or Boston who needs the infusion of defensive energy and rebounding in their frontcourt. AV would actually be a great addition to Perk/Ibaka in OKC but don't see how they make the salaries work assuming they don't want to deal Martin? I hate Perkins but think OKC will keep him in case they play Dwight in the playoffs.