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Re: Sixers Warriors Spurs Pistons Knicks 

Post#21 » by giberish » Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:45 pm

Hardcore6erFan wrote:I revised the trade to make it better for Warriors and Pistons and worse for Sixers.


Warriors out: Lee, Barnes
Warriors in: #28, #40, Spurs 2016 2nd

Warriors use Barnes to dump Lee. Warriors get rid of 18 million in salary.

Spurs out: #30, Spurs 2016 2nd, Spurs 2017 2nd
Spurs in: Young

Spurs get Younger and more athletic.


The value's plausible for GS, but the result is a awkward. The could move Green into the starting lineup, but then they've got no bench and not much real cap room to fix it. They would have major TPE's to work with, but no real secondary assets to help.

IMO it's better to at least just send Young to GS (in place of the #28 and one of the seconds). With Lee moving out there's a starting PF spot for him allowing Green to be a high-inutes reserve (or you could swap, but either way the team has one high-quality, high-minute reserve as the start of a bench).
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Re: Sixers Warriors Spurs Pistons Knicks 

Post#22 » by lakerhater » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:37 pm

giberish wrote:
Hardcore6erFan wrote:I revised the trade to make it better for Warriors and Pistons and worse for Sixers.


Warriors out: Lee, Barnes
Warriors in: #28, #40, Spurs 2016 2nd

Warriors use Barnes to dump Lee. Warriors get rid of 18 million in salary.

Spurs out: #30, Spurs 2016 2nd, Spurs 2017 2nd
Spurs in: Young

Spurs get Younger and more athletic.


The value's plausible for GS, but the result is a awkward. The could move Green into the starting lineup, but then they've got no bench and not much real cap room to fix it. They would have major TPE's to work with, but no real secondary assets to help.

IMO it's better to at least just send Young to GS (in place of the #28 and one of the seconds). With Lee moving out there's a starting PF spot for him allowing Green to be a high-inutes reserve (or you could swap, but either way the team has one high-quality, high-minute reserve as the start of a bench).


GSW doesn't want Young. He's a tweener that shoots too many threes and doesn't rebound nearly well enough to be a starting PF.

GSW would only do a Lee/Barnes salary dump if they have strong indicators a top level FA will sign with them like what happened last off-season with Iguodala.
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Re: Sixers Warriors Spurs Pistons Knicks 

Post#23 » by Hardcore6erFan » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:56 pm

lakerhater wrote:
giberish wrote:
The value's plausible for GS, but the result is a awkward. The could move Green into the starting lineup, but then they've got no bench and not much real cap room to fix it. They would have major TPE's to work with, but no real secondary assets to help.

IMO it's better to at least just send Young to GS (in place of the #28 and one of the seconds). With Lee moving out there's a starting PF spot for him allowing Green to be a high-inutes reserve (or you could swap, but either way the team has one high-quality, high-minute reserve as the start of a bench).


GSW doesn't want Young. He's a tweener that shoots too many threes and doesn't rebound nearly well enough to be a starting PF.

GSW would only do a Lee/Barnes salary dump if they have strong indicators a top level FA will sign with them like what happened last off-season with Iguodala.


In the revised deal where Warriors get #28, #40, and Spurs 2016 2nd the Warriors would have around 16 million in cap space. That's more than enough for Gasol or Monroe and close to enough for Bosh. Curry-Thompson-Iggy-Bosh-Bogut is a title contender.
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Re: Sixers Warriors Spurs Pistons Knicks 

Post#24 » by lakerhater » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:19 pm

Hardcore6erFan wrote:
lakerhater wrote:
giberish wrote:
The value's plausible for GS, but the result is a awkward. The could move Green into the starting lineup, but then they've got no bench and not much real cap room to fix it. They would have major TPE's to work with, but no real secondary assets to help.

IMO it's better to at least just send Young to GS (in place of the #28 and one of the seconds). With Lee moving out there's a starting PF spot for him allowing Green to be a high-inutes reserve (or you could swap, but either way the team has one high-quality, high-minute reserve as the start of a bench).


GSW doesn't want Young. He's a tweener that shoots too many threes and doesn't rebound nearly well enough to be a starting PF.

GSW would only do a Lee/Barnes salary dump if they have strong indicators a top level FA will sign with them like what happened last off-season with Iguodala.


In the revised deal where Warriors get #28, #40, and Spurs 2016 2nd the Warriors would have around 16 million in cap space. That's more than enough for Gasol or Monroe and close to enough for Bosh. Curry-Thompson-Iggy-Bosh-Bogut is a title contender.


I don't want Monroe and I hope GSW doesn't want him either.

Gasol would be ok on a short term contract.

Bosh would be a great addition.

If a top notch NBA FA is ready to sign a contract with GSW and the only holdup is doing a cap clearing Lee/Barnes for little return deal then I'd expect they'd jump at something like this proposal.

If they don't have that sort of player ready to sign then GSW isn't interested in making a lateral move so they'd rather just stand pat with Lee/Barnes.
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Re: Sixers Warriors Spurs Pistons Knicks 

Post#25 » by skflives » Sun Apr 13, 2014 2:01 am

Hardcore6erFan wrote:Knicks out: Stoudemire, Shumpert
Knicks in: Smith

Knicks get a huge talent upgrade at power forward and save 12.5 million in salary for 2014-15


Once again, still absolutely no incentive to take on Detroits mistake in this type of deal. We plan on being players in the 2015 free agent class. There are much more attractive players available then (Rondo, Love) that there is no reason to risk them to bring in Smith.

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