HartfordWhalers wrote:slicedbread2 wrote:Foshan wrote:Wait... so philly eats almost 20M in Landry's crap deal to move from #9/10 to #7 ?? That is a pretty expensive difference for a couple draft slots... especially for a team that just picked (arguably) the best guy in last year's draft at #11. I don't see that happening.
I think it's the fact for this year that the difference could be very huge. I mean last year's draft was weak, not 2000 weak, but still very weak. I mean outside of say Carter-Williams, Oladipo and a couple of others who could be something like Antetokounmpo, Burke and a few others, it was pretty unpredictable. This year, I could see the picks in each tier being something like this:
Tier 1: Parker, Wiggins, Embiid
Tier 2: Exum, Randle, Smart
Tier 3: Gordon, Vonleh
Tier 4: everybody else.
I will admit, Landry's deal is pretty tough to swallow since it has 19.5 million left over 3 years, but the positive for Philadelphia is that outside of Richardson who is expiring, all of their contracts are entry level salaries and the 76ers seem like they will build through the draft for now and maybe make their push in 2016 for instance since the next few years will be about player development. Plus his deal expires when Noel and MCW's deals are up for renewal so this would be a plus. And to get an opportunity to draft a guy like Vonleh boy him and Noel with their length would be quite bothersome especially if he's still on the board at 7. With upside like his if they could add say Wiggins or Parker, this would be a nuisance for many teams to handle and with boatloads of second rounders from Memphis, Brooklyn, Cleveland, and Houston, Hinkie would love to roll the dice here on high upside. Maybe Philly can send 1 low second rounder I guess, but this would get any rebuilding GM a moment of pause to think about.
Then again, there are plenty of other teams out there say Orlando, Utah or many rebuilding teams in this draft who could drive a bidding war here so if I'm Sacramento I'm willing to shop the pick around and see what I can get for it.
2 variations to bridge the gap:
-- Richardson + 10 for Thompson + 7. Drops off 2 years of the deal, but Philly is only eating 13m not 20m (I switched because Thompson is local, but either way him or Landry).
{Clears future money but no money now.}
-- Terry + Derrick Williams + 7 for 10 and BJ Mullens. Philly eats ~10m in salary to get 3 spots higher. However, I never see BJ Mullens on the Sixers again. And then its kinda like a Derrick Williams for Evan Turner trade happened, right?
{Clears money now, but no future money.}
I guess I could do the deal I proposed but with J-Rich heading back and say Philadelphia just sends 1-2 of the late second rounders they have from Houston, Brooklyn or Memphis. This one would actually be better I guess since if they were to ship the lotto pick, they'd send Thompson or preferably Landry with it.
Yea I won't lie that deal with D-Will would be Evan Turner part 2. I'd try to use the expiring deals say to try to pry a Josh Smith for cheap or let the expiring salaries expire and then open up a lot of cap space to maybe go after a good 4 although it may be hard to find one. I'd do a modified deal like this instead:
Sacramento: J-Rich, Byron Mullens, NOP #10-11, Houston second rounder or Memphis second rounder or maybe both although most likely you may just see one.
Philadelphia: Carl Landry, #7 or #7, Jason Thompson, a combination of 1-2 expiring contracts in Outlaw(3 million), Terry(5.8 million), or D-Will or the last variation of D-Will, Terry, Outlaw, Dudley(4.25 million), #7
LA Clippers: Jason Thompson
Yea I think the Kings are stuck with Landry's deal which I never understood why they did that deal to begin with. The modified deal I came up with would actually do pretty well since all you get is expiring deals for 7 and Dudley's deal which he will most likely opt out of to test FA.
