Greg Monroe signs Q/O (per Woj Done deal)

[Laimbeer]

Updated:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/508032313314508800[/tweet]

From Woj, so that is pretty official.

Spoiler:

Forward-center Greg Monroe has informed the Detroit Pistons' he will accept the qualifying offer, play for Detroit in 2014-15 and become an unrestricted free agent next summer, two people familiar with Monroe's plan told USA TODAY Sports.

The people requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about Monroe's decision.

Monroe, 24, was a restricted free agent this summer but decided not to sign an offer sheet with another team or sign a multiyear extension with the Pistons.

He instead will be one of the most highly sought-after free agents next offseason.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb ... /12940893/

UPDATE:

SVG says that Monroe hasn't informed team of QO


Neither Greg Monroe nor his agent has told the Detroit Pistons of the player's plans to sign a qualifying offer and secure his unrestricted free agency next season, according to Stan Van Gundy, but a USA Today report that the big man intends to take that option could signal a short-term future for him with the team.

The USA Today report indicated Monroe has informed the Pistons of his decision to sign the qualifying offer. Van Gundy indicated late Tuesday that he has not been so notified.

Van Gundy consistently has said it is in the team's best interest to sign Monroe to a long-term deal, which he reiterated late Tuesday. But the two sides have not reached terms, Van Gundy has hinted that there are financial thresholds the team doesn't care to exceed in a new contract, and having Monroe for one more year at a cut-rate salary certainly would benefit the team in the short term.

http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.ssf/ ... d_det.html

[Texas Chuck]

Sucks for Detroit to be sure. I get why Monroe is doing this tho after the market completely dried up on him. Will be interesting to see if some of the shooters Detroit brought in do enough to solve some of the spacing issues to let him have a big year.

[loserX]

Very interesting...in the age of the fast-rising cap perhaps it's not surprising that in-their-prime players aren't rushing to sign long-term deals.

Also a good case study for those who like to say "first round picks are great, you control them for seven years!" No, you don't.

[princeofpalace]

Sucks for Detroit to be sure. I get why Monroe is doing this tho after the market completely dried up on him. Will be interesting to see if some of the shooters Detroit brought in do enough to solve some of the spacing issues to let him have a big year.

From USATODAY

He received two max offers this offseason, but a sign-and-trade deal could not be reached, a person familiar with situation said.

Sounds like the offers had to come from teams needing a S&T to get it done but nothing could make that happen.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb ... /13967777/

[the_process]

Sucks for Detroit to be sure. I get why Monroe is doing this tho after the market completely dried up on him. Will be interesting to see if some of the shooters Detroit brought in do enough to solve some of the spacing issues to let him have a big year.

From USATODAY

He received two max offers this offseason, but a sign-and-trade deal could not be reached, a person familiar with situation said.

Sounds like the offers had to come from teams needing a S&T to get it done but nothing could make that happen.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb ... /13967777/

My guesses are Denver and Boston. Other possibilities include San Antonio, Oklahoma City, or New York.

[blind prophet]

Not only do I respect Monroe for doing this, takes some balls not to take sure money...

I'm equally pleased a few organizations are playing within their means, too many bad contracts out there.

I'd like to see more FO say nope take it or leave it, and more players leave it themselves.

Good for the game long term if this becomes a regular thing.

[The59Sound]

Very interesting...in the age of the fast-rising cap perhaps it's not surprising that in-their-prime players aren't rushing to sign long-term deals.

Also a good case study for those who like to say "first round picks are great, you control them for seven years!" No, you don't.

It's not a certainty, of course, but this is one of only a handful times in NBA history that a quality player has chosen to play out his QO. History still largely supports the notion that you'll have control of a draftee for longer than four years.

[shrink]

Very interesting...in the age of the fast-rising cap perhaps it's not surprising that in-their-prime players aren't rushing to sign long-term deals.

Also a good case study for those who like to say "first round picks are great, you control them for seven years!" No, you don't.

It's not a certainty, of course, but this is one of only a handful times in NBA history that a quality player has chosen to play out his QO. History still largely supports the notion that you'll have control of a draftee for longer than four years.

Exactly. Besides crazy Ben Gordon, who else has done this when they could sign their name and be guaranteed $50+ million dollars, with only rookie scale in the bank.

To me, this is one of the three biggest, most history-making, stories of the summer. and a passing thought ... Since this happened right before new CBA negotiations, do the non-major markets see this as a hole in their CBA that they need to close? Personally, i thought the ability to sign a player a year early was more than enough to keep your sane stars.

[loserX]

Very interesting...in the age of the fast-rising cap perhaps it's not surprising that in-their-prime players aren't rushing to sign long-term deals.

Also a good case study for those who like to say "first round picks are great, you control them for seven years!" No, you don't.

It's not a certainty, of course, but this is one of only a handful times in NBA history that a quality player has chosen to play out his QO. History still largely supports the notion that you'll have control of a draftee for longer than four years.

All true, you generally have a good chance...but it's usually thrown around in absolute terms. If the truth is that you might or actually might not control him, then by definition you don't control him

Much like other free agents, you have to pay the guy what he wants or risk losing him (although you do get the one extra year).

[kevinwinsatlife]

Bad sign for pistons

[bondom34]

Very interesting...in the age of the fast-rising cap perhaps it's not surprising that in-their-prime players aren't rushing to sign long-term deals.

Also a good case study for those who like to say "first round picks are great, you control them for seven years!" No, you don't.

It's not a certainty, of course, but this is one of only a handful times in NBA history that a quality player has chosen to play out his QO. History still largely supports the notion that you'll have control of a draftee for longer than four years.

All true, you generally have a good chance...but it's usually thrown around in absolute terms. If the truth is that you might or actually might not control him, then by definition you don't control him

Much like other free agents, you have to pay the guy what he wants or risk losing him (although you do get the one extra year).

So what you're saying is, you say you control him, but you don't, I see what you see that I see that you see. See?

Is this the best player to ever take the QO? I can't remember anyone who did this who was ever really an above average player.

[loserX]

All true, you generally have a good chance...but it's usually thrown around in absolute terms. If the truth is that you might or actually might not control him, then by definition you don't control him

Much like other free agents, you have to pay the guy what he wants or risk losing him (although you do get the one extra year).

So what you're saying is, you say you control him, but you don't, I see what you see that I see that you see. See?

More like "guaranteed leakproof...unless it leaks"

Is this the best player to ever take the QO? I can't remember anyone who did this who was ever really an above average player.

I certainly can't think of any better off the top of my head. (And it should be pointed out, as usual, that this is not official yet!) Will be curious to see if Bledsoe follows suit or not.

[LApwnd]

Josh Smith contract still paying dividends....if he wasn't around, I'm sure Det. would've easily given Monore more money, still not max but more than whats been offered.

[LApwnd]

I certainly can't think of any better off the top of my head. (And it should be pointed out, as usual, that this is not official yet!) Will be curious to see if Bledsoe follows suit or not.

not better but the 2 I can recall were Olowakandi and B. Gordon....Gordon still managed to get similar money while Olowakandi got hurt all that season and ended up getting the mle from Minn.

[youOK]

I would have to think that if he is not in their long term plans, the Pistons would try to work out a sign and trade with someone before he officially signs the QO. Once he signs it no one will want to trade for him. Even now they are probably pretty limited in what they would get back and it will probably end up being some role player.

[Smitty731]

I certainly can't think of any better off the top of my head. (And it should be pointed out, as usual, that this is not official yet!) Will be curious to see if Bledsoe follows suit or not.

I wonder if this almost gives Bledsoe a little more leverage, as opposed to the other way. Monroe was the only other guy who might have seen big money in this FA class. I wonder if Bledsoe now might get an offer from a team that may have rather have had Monroe. Cap space, or available money through S&T, seems to burn a hole in the pocket of many teams. Someone may yet still throw a big offer Bledsoe's way.

[lakersin4]

Welcome to LA Greg.

[jbk1234]

Very interesting...in the age of the fast-rising cap perhaps it's not surprising that in-their-prime players aren't rushing to sign long-term deals.

Also a good case study for those who like to say "first round picks are great, you control them for seven years!" No, you don't.

If they had offered him a max contract, he probably signs it. You don't control your first round picks if you aren't willing to pay them.

[jbk1234]

I certainly can't think of any better off the top of my head. (And it should be pointed out, as usual, that this is not official yet!) Will be curious to see if Bledsoe follows suit or not.

I wonder if this almost gives Bledsoe a little more leverage, as opposed to the other way. Monroe was the only other guy who might have seen big money in this FA class. I wonder if Bledsoe now might get an offer from a team that may have rather have had Monroe. Cap space, or available money through S&T, seems to burn a hole in the pocket of many teams. Someone may yet still throw a big offer Bledsoe's way.

Philly is the only team with cap space left to offer Bledsoe the max. Monroe has never had a serious injury. Bledsoe has had two. I'd be shocked if Bledsoe played out the year on a qualifying offer. What he, and his agent, don't appreciate is that Phoenix doesn't want to offer him a guaranteed max deal for the same reason he doesn't want to play out the season on a QO. He could get injured again. He should take less guaranteed money and give Phoenix a TO on the last year in exchange for a higher overall salary.

[Smitty731]

Philly is the only team with cap space left to offer Bledsoe the max. Monroe has never had a serious injury. Bledsoe has had two. I'd be shocked if Bledsoe played out the year on a qualifying offer. What he, and his agent, don't appreciate is that Phoenix doesn't want to offer him a guaranteed max deal for the same reason he doesn't want to play out the season on a QO. He could get injured again. He should take less guaranteed money and give Phoenix a TO on the last year in exchange for a higher overall salary.

Philly is the only team with enough to outright offer him the max, but plenty of other teams can put together attractive S&T options. Get Phoenix to bite on one of those, and Bledsoe could still see a huge offer.

I've actually been thinking something for Indiana could make sense. Word is they want Dragic more, but if they could get Bledsoe in a S&T for an expiring contract and/or big man, I'd think Phoenix would listen. West would be terrific for Phoenix. He isn't the shooter that Frye was, but he bring an element of leadership and toughness that Phoenix could use. And their cap is in such good shape, that it wouldn't hurt them going forward to have his deal. I think West and someone else to balance salaries makes for more sense than the Hibbert deals I've seen.