Phi-CHA-MIN-NY

[Mamba4Goat]

Phi out: Tony Wroten, 2nd
Phi in: Shump, Biyombo

Min out: Bud, Martin, Barea, Pek
Min in: Zeller, Hairston, STAT, NY 2nd.

Cha out: Zeller, Hairston, Biyombo
Cha in: Pek, Wroten, PHI 2nd.

NY out: STAT, Shump, 2nd.
NY in: Bud, Martin, Barea

Why for PHI? Why not take a few flyers on some lads? Both are restricted this year.
Why for MIN? Decide to go with their young group and let them play rather than have a log jam while getting younger yet. Possibly allows them to pick up another piece through the draft.
Why for CHA? Gets them a solid center to put along side big AL. Also, Wroten makes an okay sixth man.
Why for NY? Gears their team up to play now and having Bud, if healthy, could allow Melo to play more PF.

[JDR720]

Charlotte wouldn't do this, Al and Pek cant play together

[giberish]

Way too good for Philly - IMO Shump and Bismak get overrated by their teams' fans but they do have some value - and Philly's getting them for essentially nothing.

Makes no sense for Charlotte, unless they know Jefferson's about to miss the season with a major injury and are looking for a replacement.

Minny isn't looking for the complete tear-down and NYK wouldn't want the $$ past this season.

[wolves_89]

I really don't get all the recent Wolves trades where they get shafted value-wise with the justification being "they want to dump all their veterans to save money and tank". In this trade, Minnesota trades 2 starters and another rotation player for one of the worst contracts in the NBA and 2 players who would be no higher than 3rd on the depth chart. Easy no for the Wolves.

[Mamba4Goat]

I really don't get all the recent Wolves trades where they get shafted value-wise with the justification being "they want to dump all their veterans to save money and tank". In this trade, Minnesota trades 2 starters and another rotation player for one of the worst contracts in the NBA and 2 players who would be no higher than 3rd on the depth chart. Easy no for the Wolves.

Amare's contract is an expiring which has some value.

[wolves_89]

I really don't get all the recent Wolves trades where they get shafted value-wise with the justification being "they want to dump all their veterans to save money and tank". In this trade, Minnesota trades 2 starters and another rotation player for one of the worst contracts in the NBA and 2 players who would be no higher than 3rd on the depth chart. Easy no for the Wolves.

Amare's contract is an expiring which has some value.

Expiring contracts only have value to teams that are looking to get significantly under the salary cap (so they can sign free agents in the off-season). At this point, having salary cap space is not likely to be much of an asset for the Wolves. There is little chance the Wolves would or could sign free agent talent that provided anywhere near the production of the players they would trade away.

For some teams trading for expiring contracts makes sense, but for the Wolves it's not really much of a benefit.

[marcush]

Philly cant trade their 2nd, they owe it to Boston. But yes for Sixers.

[BlackOutBuzz]

Philly cant trade their 2nd, they owe it to Boston. But yes for Sixers.

Fortunately they have 20 others they could trade.

Not really a fan from the Charlotte perspective though.

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[HornetJail]

Zero interest. Pekovic and Jefferson have playing styles that are way too similar and neither can play any position but center. Not to mention Pekovic has a terrible contract and has injury problems. We're perfectly fine with Biz anyway.

[Rockazoids]

There is no way NY let Minn take a dump on them (Bud, Martin, Barea popo plater) for STAT exp deal,
Shump, & a 2nd.

[HartfordWhalers]

Philly cant trade their 2nd, they owe it to Boston. But yes for Sixers.

Lol.

Philly has already traded it twice since then (Oklahoma 56-60) and (Cleveland 51-55), and can 1 more time still.

[Domejandro]

Zero interest. Pekovic and Jefferson have playing styles that are way too similar and neither can play any position but center. Not to mention Pekovic has a terrible contract and has injury problems. We're perfectly fine with Biz anyway.

He has injury problems, but a terrible contract he does not. That said, you are right about the fit of Jefferson and Pek being pretty dreadful.


Minnesota says hell no. As someone said about, the justification that Minnesota will take hot trash to "make minutes for the young players" is so incredibly ridiculous that I cannot believe people are serious.

New York says absolutely not. They get much better players, but their market size makes their value of cap-space absolutely ridiculous in comparison to what cap-space is to Minnesota.

Philly says yes.

[Saltine]

This is absurd.
Not the slightest chance in hell Minny goes for this. It's just pointless.

[HornetJail]

Zero interest. Pekovic and Jefferson have playing styles that are way too similar and neither can play any position but center. Not to mention Pekovic has a terrible contract and has injury problems. We're perfectly fine with Biz anyway.

He has injury problems, but a terrible contract he does not. That said, you are right about the fit of Jefferson and Pek being pretty dreadful.

The guy has injury problems now and makes $12M per year for 4 more years. by that point he's going to be 32 and probably on the court quite a bit less. I wouldn't want him on the books then. In short, he's probably worth the money now (that's questionable actually), but not in a few years. That's a bad contract in my eyes.

[ckchen]

Phi out: Tony Wroten, 2nd
Phi in: Shump, Biyombo

Min out: Bud, Martin, Barea, Pek
Min in: Zeller, Hairston, STAT, NY 2nd.

Cha out: Zeller, Hairston, Biyombo
Cha in: Pek, Wroten, PHI 2nd.

NY out: STAT, Shump, 2nd.
NY in: Bud, Martin, Barea

Why for PHI? Why not take a few flyers on some lads? Both are restricted this year.
Why for MIN? Decide to go with their young group and let them play rather than have a log jam while getting younger yet. Possibly allows them to pick up another piece through the draft.
Why for CHA? Gets them a solid center to put along side big AL. Also, Wroten makes an okay sixth man.
Why for NY? Gears their team up to play now and having Bud, if healthy, could allow Melo to play more PF.

The fact that both Shump and Biyombo are RFAs at the end of the season is actually likely the reason Philly wouldn't bother. Shump has some value for a better team as a defensive specialist. Biyombo is still young to have potential, but let's face facts, Philly won't be paying for either of these guys at the end of the year. Wroten has more value to Philly than either of these guys as a 21 yr old with a couple of years left on his rookie deal. The fact that they're tossing in their own 2nd, which Hinkie treats like gold, just throws salt into the wound. No reason for Philly to get involved.

[GopherIt!]

Zero interest. Pekovic and Jefferson have playing styles that are way too similar and neither can play any position but center. Not to mention Pekovic has a terrible contract and has injury problems. We're perfectly fine with Biz anyway.

Pek is an 18-9 center on a 4yr/48m deal. That's solid. His injury label is way overstated on RGM. He was held out of games he could have played if Minny was in playoff contention. He is a force in the paint. Well worth 12M per. He needs to be paired with the right PF/C.

[moocow007]

Phi out: Tony Wroten, 2nd
Phi in: Shump, Biyombo

Min out: Bud, Martin, Barea, Pek
Min in: Zeller, Hairston, STAT, NY 2nd.

Cha out: Zeller, Hairston, Biyombo
Cha in: Pek, Wroten, PHI 2nd.

NY out: STAT, Shump, 2nd.
NY in: Bud, Martin, Barea

Why for PHI? Why not take a few flyers on some lads? Both are restricted this year.
Why for MIN? Decide to go with their young group and let them play rather than have a log jam while getting younger yet. Possibly allows them to pick up another piece through the draft.
Why for CHA? Gets them a solid center to put along side big AL. Also, Wroten makes an okay sixth man.
Why for NY? Gears their team up to play now and having Bud, if healthy, could allow Melo to play more PF.

Oh heck no for NY. $13 million worth of capspace eaten up for 2015 for 3 more SG's?