Hawks/Wiz/Bucks - Millsap to Washington

N.O.R.E. · Post #1 » by **N.O.R.E.** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:48 am

Hawks Trade: Millsap, Teague
Receive: Nene, Henson, Brandon Knight

Horford/Henson/Brand
Nene/Payne/M.Scott
Korver/Carroll/Thabo
Thabo/B.Knight/Jenkins
Shroder/Mack/B.Knight

The Hawks get both win-now and win-later bigs in return for an expiring Millsap. They also give up Teague to open up more PT for the younger guards.

Wiz Trade: Nene, Otto Porter
Receive: Millsap, Dudley

Gortat/Blair/Seraphin
Millsap/Hump/Seraphin
Pierce/Dudley
Beal/Webster/Rice
Wall/Miller

The Wiz get the perfect PF for their team, while also picking up a potentially good role-player in Dudley.

Bucks Trade: Henson, Knight, Dudley
Receive: Otto Porter, Teague

Sanders/Zaza
Jabari/Ilyasova/Giannis
Giannis/Porter/Middleton
Mayo/Bayless/Middleton
Teague/Marshall/Wolters

The Bucks upgrade the point, while picking up a decent forward prospect in Otto Porter.

AussieBuck · Post #2 » by **AussieBuck** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:02 am

Can the Bucks on trade Teague for a pick?

Alienware · Post #3 » by **Alienware** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:15 am

I would never trade Millsap if I was Atlanta, they won't find that kind of production for that little money elsewhere. Let him expire and then try to re-sign him.

Post #4 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:35 am

Take out Teague and Knight and send Bazemore to Washington instead. Pretty sure the money works out and I think the value is better for ATL.

Maybe a protected 1st from ATL to the Bucks instead of Teague, but that might not be necessary. I think Milsap/Henson is debatable and Nene has little more than neutral value with his injuries and that deal, but I do think he and Horford work pretty well together, minus the same defensive issues.

Post #5 » by **dms269** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:28 pm

I don't really get it that much for aAlanta. You say they trade Teague to open up spots for younger players, yet they bring in Knight. I think Knight and Teague is a toss-up in terms of production, but teague is signed longer and will likely have the better contract.

I'm impartial to Henson. He might be a good player but he is still fairly raw.

I don't think Nene has positive value. 2 year deal making a ton of money for average production. Not really the Atlanta mold to take it on. I just don't think Henson's value is high enough to combat Atlanta taking on nene.

theatlfan · Post #6 » by **theatlfan** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:49 pm

Yeah - this is genuinely terrible for ATL. No idea why one would think that a package of Nene and Otto Porter should command a positive return, so forth an AS.

Cut ATL out and deal Gibson from CHI in our place.

Post #7 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:00 pm

theatlfan wrote:Yeah - this is genuinely terrible for ATL. No idea why one would think that a package of Nene and Otto Porter should command a positive return, so forth an AS.

Cut ATL out and deal Gibson from CHI in our place.

Yeah, the trade could help Washington and Milwaukee, but it's awful for Atlanta - and Washington and Milwaukee are my favorite teams.

Post #8 » by **Hawk Eye** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:30 pm

Teague >>> Knight
Milsap >>> Nene

Even though we get a nice prospect in Henson; this deal still isn't worth it for ATL

Post #9 » by **Smitty731** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:25 pm

This is really bad for Atlanta. Millsap is a perfect fit for what they want their PF to do. He can play inside and out. The entire Atlanta offense is based around have 5 shooters on the floor at all times. They are almost there, as Carroll has improved a lot. All their backups also have reliable mid-range to outside shots. This would give them a guy who can't really score outside of the paint or post ups (Nene), a PG who isn't the equal of the PG who goes out (Knight for Teague), and a big man who isn't a much better fit than the big men they already have (Henson).

In addition, for Milwaukee, they already have a combination of Parker, Antetokounmpo, Middleton, and Dudley at SF. Not that Porter might not be better than some of those guys, but they don't really need him at all.

It is fine for Washington, as it adds another shooter. But they had a lot of success playing a dual post offense, so I'm not sure they want to change that just yet.

M-C-G · Post #10 » by **M-C-G** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:50 pm

If MKE is dealing with Atlanta, I am pretty sure Schroeder is the only player that makes any sense trying to acquire, given the core we are trying to build around.

trwi7 · Post #11 » by **trwi7** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:52 pm

uga_dawgs24 wrote:I think Knight and Teague is a toss-up in terms of production, but teague is signed longer and will likely have the better contract.

You're being too kind here. Teague is far better than Knight.

nuposse04 · Post #12 » by **nuposse04** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:25 pm

Not interested from the wiz end. Porter is finally going to be given his chance. Milsap is better offensively then Milsap though and his stretch ability would be nice.

jayjaysee · Post #13 » by **jayjaysee** » Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:49 pm

I love that Bucks fans can actually say deals are too good for them. Few fans can do that...

This both weird and bad for Atlanta.

Also agree that Unless Giannis takes major steps, their interest in Teague has died down - despite this being good value. They'd much rather go for a Henson/Schroeder swap.

And it doesn't really make sense for Washington - risk Millsap leaving and give up on Porter so quickly, but the value is too great to turn down.. signing Pierce shows they think they can compete this year. Swapping Nene/Millsap would definitely add some wins.

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