Magic/Rockets/Suns/Blazers

[Bentley1225]

Based on the following, ill offer this idea:
-Channing Frye reportedly on trade block
-Rockets drafted Decker
-Suns drafted Booker
-Blazers looking to acquire youth for re-build around Lillard

Ill offer this idea.

To Orlando (Deal Frye, 2 2nds)
-P.J. Tucker (2 years, $10.8 million)

To Houston (Deal Ariza)
-Channing Frye (3 years, $23.5 million)
-2017 Orlando 2nd round pick
-2019 Orlando 2nd round pick

To Phoenix (Deal Tucker, Goodwin)
-Trevor Ariza (3 years, $23.4 million)
-2019 2nd round pick via Portland

To Portland (Deal 2nd round pick)
-Archie Goodwin (1 year, $1.1 milion plus TO for $2 million)

Why?
-Orlando saves some immediate money and 3rd year of Fryes guaranteed salary. Tucker can play SF/PF while Magic allocated more minutes at the 4 between Gordon/Nicholson. Tucker can share backup minutes with Hedonza.

-Houston gets a true stretch 4 in Frye as last piece to puzzle to play behind Jones at 20-25 mpg. Brewer, McDaniels and Decker can all play the SF spot.

-Phoenix gets a true starting SF in Ariza who I think would mesh well with Bledsoe/Knight/Morris/Chandler. Goodwin will get very limited minutes against with drafting of Booker

-Portland adds a young backcourt player in Goodwin who they can give minutes to in backcourt along with McCollum off the bench.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Magic say yes.

[giberish]

Houston's a title contender. Winning this year matters and losing Ariza would be a significant downgrade for Houston.

[red96]

Ariza for Frye? I see Frye as no more than a 7ft. stiff with a 3pt shot, so I hate the deal for Houston.

[Cutter]

Yeah, can't see Rockets moving Ariza for Frye. He would be great for them and would help spread the floor, but I think Arizoa is a defensive wing that all contenders need to have.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

I wouldn't mind taking a look at Goodwin and if Portland isn't decent by 2019 (Dame would be like 28/29?) then we have bigger problems than not having a 2ed round pick. So value is fine IMO.

However I quibble a little because the Blazers already have to cut a young guy on the level of Goodwin, so the cost actually becomes something like cutting a player, eating that contract (15 players have some sort of guarantee), giving up a pick and a small reduction in available capspace. If the Blazers roster stood at 14, i would say go for it, but I don't think we really need any more low end prospects (can only have so many), even at a low cost.

I guess the choice comes down to Cliff Alexander (only has 100k guarantee) or Goodwin. I think the Blazers need SF/PF more than they need PG/SG and Cliff has already been in training camp - but ultimately I expect squat from either. Maybe someone weighs the two and comes to a different conclusion.



That said, this deal sucks for Houston and make my minor quibbles meaningless.

[spearsy23]

"Brewer, Mcdaniels and Dekker can all play the SF spot."

Well, that's true. Using that logic, Singler/Morrow/Roberson can all play the SF spot so why not trade Kevin Durant for Demar Derozan? It's a similar downgrade.

[Bentley1225]

But the idea is Brewer is your starting 3. LAst I checked he was a solid wing defender. Daniels and Decker can play SF minute off the bench. I dont see it as a drop off for Rockets but thats just my opinion.

[red96]

But the idea is Brewer is your starting 3. LAst I checked he was a solid wing defender. Daniels and Decker can play SF minute off the bench. I dont see it as a drop off for Rockets but thats just my opinion.

The Rockets are contenders, they're not going to place that much faith on an unproven rookie in Dekker. Brewer is more of a gambling defender and he's not good from 3. He's best off the bench. If the Rockets were getting an all-star it might be worth the downgrade at sf, but you have them getting Frye who doesn't rebound, defend, postup, ect, He only shoot 3's and he just isnt a very good player. He isnt a starter on a good team while Ariza is. This is just a bad deal for the Rockets.

[Mr. E]

This is a terrible downgrade at SF for Houston, and I don't think that Frye starts over Motiejunas or Jones. I don't see Houston considering this.

[OrlandoNed]

Orlando cap situation is just fine with Frye's contract, they are not that desperate to get rid of him just to lose 2 2nds and add another wing to the logjam we have.

Houston would be stupid to add a 3rd PF by losing their starting SF.

Bad trade for Houston and a pointless trade for Orlando, Phoenix and Portland.

[zapatasblood]

This is just flat out awful for Houston. Ariza for two seconds and not going to keep harden and Howard happy. Those two seconds are going to help the rockets win anytime soon.


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[Bentley1225]

I guess Houston could be cut out and Frye goes back to Phoenix

To Orlando
-PJ Tucker

To Phoenix
-Channing Frye
-2 2nd round picks Orlando
-2nd round pick from Portland

To Portland
-Archie Goodwin

[Golabki]

I hate it for Houston... I think they'd consider it for Brewer, but not Ariza.

[spearsy23]

I guess Houston could be cut out and Frye goes back to Phoenix

To Orlando
-PJ Tucker

To Phoenix
-Channing Frye
-2 2nd round picks Orlando
-2nd round pick from Portland

To Portland
-Archie Goodwin

Those picks probably don't even get Orlando out of Frye's contract, let alone added value.

[tiderulz]

I guess Houston could be cut out and Frye goes back to Phoenix

To Orlando
-PJ Tucker

To Phoenix
-Channing Frye
-2 2nd round picks Orlando
-2nd round pick from Portland

To Portland
-Archie Goodwin

no thanks, Orlando just rides out Frye's contract

[Fo-Real]

Take Phx out completely